Opposite of Carrion Swarm?

[weuser]

I want to make an ability where this hero shoots out a missile that looks sorta like this (http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...976/?prev=search=life%20wave&d=list&r=20&t=10) and heals everyone (friends and enemies) hit by the missile.

How should I do it? I can't think of any existing spells to base it off (I tried carrion swarm but you can't make it do negative damage...)

 

[Adiktuz]

You can make it do negative damage... hold shift, double click the damage part, release shift, input the negative value, press ok... and be sure that you enabled negative values on File->Preferences

 

[weuser]

O, wow. Thanks a lot. What would I do without y'all?

EDIT: But carrion swarm with negative values doesn't seem to be healing anyone...

 

[weuser]

(my edit)

 

[Adiktuz]

don't double post... did you set the targets right?

if it won't then you need some kinda projectile system...

 

[weuser]

yeah, i set the targets right. i can target people but can't heal.

a projectile system? can i just do this through some triggers? are there no other spells that i could base this off of.

maybe i could just do zero damage through carrion swarm-based spell and then all those people who took the zero damage (or .1 or 1) will get healed (preferably before they take the damage)?

(how do i delete a post?)

 

[Adiktuz]

That idea would be bad... as there are a lot of methods that a unit can receive 0 damage...

You could do it via triggs though its pretty hard to do for beginners... but there are projectile systems out there... and there is some for GUI... Try to look for Trail System, and Arc System...

what targets did you set?

 

[defskull]

It's easy when you want a damaging spell to turned to healing spell affecting allied unit
You're gonna change the "Stats - Targets Allowed" that includes "Friend" in it and remove the "Enemy"
But since Carrion Swarm spell does not even have "Enemy"-type target allowed on its default spell, the target of enemy is hard-coded engine (therefore, we can't just simply change it to "Friend")

This is indeed need a help from TRIGGER EDITOR

I have attached a test map for you to see how dummy works with this type of spell
Although, it's not MUI, careful @.@"

 

[weuser]

Well you made it work, basically, defskull. It just doesn't heal enemies yet.

I can't really follow your trigger stuff. I wish I could actually find a good introduction to all these acronyms (MUI, GUI, Jass, etc.) and how to use them. I don't know why Blizzard didn't make a how to manual for this program. At least I can't find one...

 

[Jake Command Wolf]

If I might make a suggestion, maybe you could try using Crushing Wave instead of Carrion Swarm? Granted Crushing Wave is just a pallet swap of Carrion Swarm with the same effect it may allow more options for editing its targets, since its a spell added by the expansion.

I'll look into and post later.

Regards,

Jake

 

[Adiktuz]

Why? Because if you read the End User License Agreement (EULA) you will see that it says:
"Blizzard do not directly support the editor"

but you know what? Blizzard actually made a BASIC manual... though you won't really learn there... that's why there are tutorials here...

 

[Jake Command Wolf]

I found out something that may help. Carrion Swarm has Targets Allowed as: "Ground, Air".

But Crushing Wave has Targets Allowed set as: "Ground, Air, Structure, Enemy, Neutral".

This may mean its not as hard wired as Carrion Swarm, so trying make a neg value using Crushing Wave and see if it works.

Regards,

Jake

 

[weuser]

Thanks, Jake. That doesn't seem to help, though.

 

[weuser]

Adiktuz, that's their decision, yes. I was wondering why they made that decision.

Anyway, how did you all learn the GUI, MUI, Jass, complicated trigger, etc. stuff???

 

[Adiktuz]

Practice is the key my friend...

GUI -> the normal interface of the Trigger Editor
MUI -> means that the spell/system can be used by any number of units even at the same time without causing problems
JASS -> scripting language of Wc3 (GUI is converted to JASS when you save a map)

Anyway, its not really that carrion swarm has a hardcoded enemy target, coz setting Ground,Air actually by default makes the spell only damage enemies I think... [and yeah, the target system of wc3 is pretty much not good, some values there are self-explanatory while some work in weird ways... example: choosing self, will make your spell only be able to target the caster unless you also tick not-self]

btw, have you tried defskull's test map...

 

[defskull]

Experience doing these stuffs all alone.
Experience is the best teacher dude.

EDIT:
Have you even download my test map in previous post ?

Btw, why you stated this ?

Well you made it work, basically, defskull. It just doesn't heal enemies yet.

You want to heal enemies ?

 

[weuser]

Yeah, I looked at the test map.

Yes, I'd like it to heal enemies, too. Like the goblin alchemist's spray thing.

 

[defskull]

Just remove the condition in filtering the unit
Remove this line: ((((Matching unit) belong to an ally of (Owner of Carrion)) Equal to True)

By removing that, this trigger will also heal enemy units

 

[weuser]

Defskull, it's working great! I made it a three level spell and made the new graphic (life force wave) get bigger each level.

One question: I want to use this icon button but I already have a button with the exact same path name so I can import the new one with the "war3mapimported" text in front but I can't delete that front text. What do I do?

 

[Adiktuz]

Change the name a bit (on the import manager, no need to it on the real file)...

example:

if the icon was BTNAcid, then make the next icon BTNAcid2 or something...

 

[weuser]

thanks, all of ya!