new race

Garra · Sep 13, 2009

hi im making a new race for a melee game i was just wondering how i would go about making it act like a real race, where its selectable pregame and will start like a real race would

Chief-Oblivion · Sep 13, 2009

The only thing you could do is rename one of the current races to your new race. Don't think you can add any more races to be chosen.

MGCǂSpectre · Sep 13, 2009

You can customize its everything - buildings, units, etc. Change the name in game interface , the text where it says 'Human' or whatever race. To make it start like a real race you need Melee Initialization on, as it is the trigger by default, AI too.

Garra · Sep 13, 2009

so theres no way to make a "new" race?

MGCǂSpectre · Sep 13, 2009

If you know what to change in the .mpq filles, not just models or textures but also some coded files that have the info how many races you can select, what names they have, etc you could. But that's so advanced and I'm not sure anyone bothers to go that far. That's like making a new game or remaking war3, programming lol. You can modify an existing race as Chief-O said.

Garra · Sep 13, 2009

ok if i wanted to how would i go about editing in a new race without replacing one

reason 3 · Sep 13, 2009

Instead of making a new race(which is hard),you can re-make an already existing race.For example change the Humans to > Elfs,then change every last thing in the race which is Human with Elfs,this should do it.

Garra · Sep 13, 2009

well does anyone know how i would make a new race without overwriting one

Chief-Oblivion · Sep 13, 2009

Even if you managed to do it and crap open the mpq files and shit it wouldn't work for other players unless they too did that. It's far too much work, and not worth it. Your best bet will be to work around it.

reason 3 · Sep 13, 2009

Actually i do know how...but you need to work a lot.Let's start here are some triggers:

Melee Initialization
- Events
  - Map initialization
- Conditions
- Actions
  - -------- Common Melee Script --------
  - Melee Game - Use melee time of day (for all players)
  - Melee Game - Limit Heroes to 1 per Hero-type (for all players)
  - Melee Game - Give trained Heroes a Scroll of Town Portal (for all players)
  - Melee Game - Set starting resources (for all players)
  - Melee Game - Remove creeps and critters from used start locations (for all players)
  - -------- Check Trigger Comments --------
  - Melee Game - Create starting units (for all players)
  - -------- This is to prevent the players to start before the others --------
  - Set AllUnits = (Units in (Playable map area))
  - Unit Group - Pick every unit in AllUnits and do (Unit - Pause (Picked unit))

Players
- Events
  - Map initialization
- Conditions
- Actions
  - -------- Limit of custom heros and creates a group to show the dialog only to the Human Players --------
  - Player Group - Pick every player in (All players matching (((Matching player) controller) Equal to User)) and do (Actions)
    - Loop - Actions
      - Player Group - Add (Picked player) to PlayersUsers
      - Player - Limit training of Fathom-Lord to 1 for (Picked player)
      - Player - Limit training of Mur'gul Hydromancer to 1 for (Picked player)
      - Player - Limit training of ArchSummoner to 1 for (Picked player)
      - Player - Limit training of Naga Sea Witch to 1 for (Picked player)
  - -------- Check Trigger Comment --------
  - -------- 1.1 --------
  - If ((Player 1 (Red) slot status) Equal to Is unused) then do (Set DefeatPL1 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - -------- 1.2 --------
  - If ((DefeatPL1 Equal to True) or ((Player 1 (Red) controller) Equal to Computer)) then do (Set ReadyPL1 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - -------- Starts to repeat --------
  - If ((Player 2 (Blue) slot status) Equal to Is unused) then do (Set DefeatPL2 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((DefeatPL2 Equal to True) or ((Player 2 (Blue) controller) Equal to Computer)) then do (Set ReadyPL2 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((Player 3 (Teal) slot status) Equal to Is unused) then do (Set DefeatPL3 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((DefeatPL3 Equal to True) or ((Player 3 (Teal) controller) Equal to Computer)) then do (Set ReadyPL3 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((Player 4 (Purple) slot status) Equal to Is unused) then do (Set DefeatPL4 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((DefeatPL4 Equal to True) or ((Player 4 (Purple) controller) Equal to Computer)) then do (Set ReadyPL4 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((Player 5 (Yellow) slot status) Equal to Is unused) then do (Set DefeatPL5 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((DefeatPL5 Equal to True) or ((Player 5 (Yellow) controller) Equal to Computer)) then do (Set ReadyPL5 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - -------- Starts to show the Dialog to decide the to use the Nagas or not --------
  - Trigger - Run Dialog Naga <gen> (checking conditions)

Start Game
- Events
- Conditions
- Actions
  - -------- Checks if all the units are ready, it all are, then the game can start --------
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - And - All (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        ReadyPL1 Equal to True
        
        ReadyPL2 Equal to True
        
        ReadyPL3 Equal to True
        
        ReadyPL4 Equal to True
        
        ReadyPL5 Equal to True
    - Then - Actions
      - -------- Tell everyone the game has started --------
      - Game - Display to (All players) the text: |c00ff0000WARNING|r...
      - Sound - Play Warning <gen>
      - Wait 5.00 seconds
      - -------- Unpause the units so the game can start --------
      - Game - Display to (All players) the text: |c00ff0000WARNING|r...
      - Sound - Play Warning <gen>
      - Unit Group - Pick every unit in AllUnits and do (Unit - Unpause (Picked unit))
      - -------- Run the AI for computer controlled units --------
      - Melee Game - Run melee AI scripts (for computer players)
    - Else - Actions

Dialog Naga
- Events
- Conditions
- Actions
  - Wait 0.10 seconds
  - -------- Creates the Dialog and buttons --------
  - Dialog - Change the title of DialogNaga to Use Naga Race?
  - Dialog - Create a dialog button for DialogNaga labelled Yes
  - Set ButtonYes = (Last created dialog Button)
  - Dialog - Create a dialog button for DialogNaga labelled No
  - Set ButtonNo = (Last created dialog Button)
  - -------- Shows the dialog to all the human players --------
  - Player Group - Pick every player in (All players matching (((Matching player) controller) Equal to User)) and do (Actions)
    - Loop - Actions
      - Dialog - Show DialogNaga for (Picked player)

Naga Selected
- Events
  - Dialog - A dialog button is clicked for DialogNaga
- Conditions
- Actions
  - -------- A player clics a button, so, the player is ready, check what player clicked and set him ready --------
  - If ((Triggering player) Equal to Player 1 (Red)) then do (Set ReadyPL1 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((Triggering player) Equal to Player 2 (Blue)) then do (Set ReadyPL2 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((Triggering player) Equal to Player 3 (Teal)) then do (Set ReadyPL3 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((Triggering player) Equal to Player 4 (Purple)) then do (Set ReadyPL4 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - If ((Triggering player) Equal to Player 5 (Yellow)) then do (Set ReadyPL5 = True) else do (Do nothing)
  - -------- Someone decides to use the nagas, so the naga units are created for that player --------
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - (Clicked dialog button) Equal to ButtonYes
    - Then - Actions
      - -------- Replaces the units normal workers with naga workers --------
      - Set TempGroup = (Units owned by (Triggering player) matching (((Matching unit) is A peon-type unit) Equal to True))
      - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempGroup and do (Unit - Replace (Picked unit) with a Mur'gul Slave using The new unit's default life and mana)
      - -------- Replaces the normal town-hall with naga town-hall --------
      - Set TempGroup = (Units owned by (Triggering player) matching (((Matching unit) is A town-hall-type unit) Equal to True))
      - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempGroup and do (Unit - Replace (Picked unit) with a Temple of Tides using The new unit's default life and mana)
      - -------- Check Trigger Comment --------
      - -------- 1.1 --------
      - If ((Race of (Triggering player)) Equal to Undead) then do (Unit - Create 2 Mur'gul Slave for (Triggering player) at ((Triggering player) start location) facing Default building facing degrees) else do (Do nothing)
      - -------- 1.2 --------
      - Set TempGroup = (Units owned by (Triggering player) matching ((Unit-type of (Matching unit)) Equal to Ghoul))
      - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempGroup and do (Unit - Remove (Picked unit) from the game)
      - Set TempGroup = (Units owned by (Triggering player) matching ((Unit-type of (Matching unit)) Equal to Haunted Gold Mine))
      - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempGroup and do (Unit - Remove (Picked unit) from the game)
      - -------- 1.3 --------
      - Set AllUnits = (Units in (Playable map area))
      - Unit Group - Pick every unit in AllUnits and do (Unit - Pause (Picked unit))
    - Else - Actions
  - -------- Run the trigger that decides to start or not the game --------
  - Trigger - Run Start Game <gen> (checking conditions)

Defeat
- Events
  - Unit - A unit Dies
- Conditions
  - (Owner of (Triggering unit)) Not equal to Neutral Hostile
- Actions
  - Set TempPlayer = (Owner of (Triggering unit))
  - -------- Check Triggers Comment --------
  - -------- 1.1 --------
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - Or - Any (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        (DefeatPL1 Equal to True) and (Player 1 (Red) Equal to TempPlayer)
        
        (DefeatPL2 Equal to True) and (Player 2 (Blue) Equal to TempPlayer)
        
        (DefeatPL3 Equal to True) and (Player 3 (Teal) Equal to TempPlayer)
        
        (DefeatPL4 Equal to True) and (Player 4 (Purple) Equal to TempPlayer)
        
        (DefeatPL5 Equal to True) and (Player 5 (Yellow) Equal to TempPlayer)
    - Then - Actions
      - Skip remaining actions
    - Else - Actions
  - -------- Creates a group that checks buldings and workers --------
  - Set TempGroup = (Units owned by TempPlayer matching ((((Matching unit) is A structure) Equal to True) or (((Matching unit) is A peon-type unit) Equal to True)))
  - -------- If the units in the group last created are dead... --------
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - (All units of TempGroup are dead) Equal to True
    - Then - Actions
      - -------- ...then the player will be defeated --------
      - Game - Defeat TempPlayer with the message: Defeat!
      - -------- Tells the other players the player was defeated --------
      - Game - Display to (All players) the text: ((Name of TempPlayer) + was defeated.)
      - Set TempGroup = (Units owned by TempPlayer)
      - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempGroup and do (Actions)
        
        Loop - Actions
        
        Unit - Order (Picked unit) to Stop
      - -------- Checks who was the defeated player to set the variable "Defeat" to true for the correct player --------
      - If (TempPlayer Equal to Player 1 (Red)) then do (Set DefeatPL1 = True) else do (Do nothing)
      - If (TempPlayer Equal to Player 2 (Blue)) then do (Set DefeatPL2 = True) else do (Do nothing)
      - If (TempPlayer Equal to Player 3 (Teal)) then do (Set DefeatPL3 = True) else do (Do nothing)
      - If (TempPlayer Equal to Player 4 (Purple)) then do (Set DefeatPL4 = True) else do (Do nothing)
      - If (TempPlayer Equal to Player 5 (Yellow)) then do (Set DefeatPL5 = True) else do (Do nothing)
      - Trigger - Run Victory <gen> (checking conditions)
    - Else - Actions

Victory
- Events
- Conditions
- Actions
  - -------- Check Trigger Comments --------
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - And - All (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        DefeatPL1 Equal to False
        
        DefeatPL2 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL3 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL4 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL5 Equal to True
    - Then - Actions
      - Game - Victory Player 1 (Red) (Show dialogs, Show scores)
    - Else - Actions
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - And - All (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        DefeatPL1 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL2 Equal to False
        
        DefeatPL3 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL4 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL5 Equal to True
    - Then - Actions
      - Game - Victory Player 2 (Blue) (Show dialogs, Show scores)
    - Else - Actions
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - And - All (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        DefeatPL1 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL2 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL3 Equal to False
        
        DefeatPL4 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL5 Equal to True
    - Then - Actions
      - Game - Victory Player 3 (Teal) (Show dialogs, Show scores)
    - Else - Actions
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - And - All (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        DefeatPL1 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL2 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL3 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL4 Equal to False
        
        DefeatPL5 Equal to True
    - Then - Actions
      - Game - Victory Player 4 (Purple) (Show dialogs, Show scores)
    - Else - Actions
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - And - All (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        DefeatPL1 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL2 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL3 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL4 Equal to True
        
        DefeatPL5 Equal to False
    - Then - Actions
      - Game - Victory Player 5 (Yellow) (Show dialogs, Show scores)
    - Else - Actions

Boneknight · Sep 13, 2009

you can simply show dialog with races names at begining andafter player picks just spawn town hall and workers for him trught triggers

Garra · Sep 13, 2009

well i geuss thats possible but is there noway to add it so its a selectable race in the pregame screen? w/o replacing an exsisting race

reason 3 · Sep 13, 2009

Nop,there is no way to add another Race to the selection menu,only Blizzard can make this...

Boneknight · Sep 13, 2009

and some other people butt it woud work only on your PC

Chief-Oblivion · Sep 13, 2009

As I said before you CAN fuck with the mpq files, but that's a disaster in the making, plus it will only work on your computer. You will just have to edit the races or just make them select a race at the start of game.

Super-Sheep · Sep 13, 2009

Editing them will not show your race names for other players when playing the first time. When joining second time, they see custom names. But this also fuck ups other maps, so for an example when you join to a normal game you can still see the custom names, but not the original race names. Resets upon restart.

reason 3 · Sep 13, 2009

So...we conclude to useless.The best way to re-make a race is to overwrite a default one!

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