Need some spell help

[Ardnived]

I'm trying to make a spell that transforms the user on death (like a reincarnation/metamorphasis cross) but so far ive had no luck, i tried basing it on reincarnation then putting metamorphasis in the buffs slot but then it didnt give me an option for what to transform into so i assume that wouldnt work, i also tried basing it on meamorphasis but then i had no idea how to make it only activate on death.

Can anyone help me?

 

[Gilles]

You need to trigger this. Not exactly sure how, I can start it though
Event - (your Hero) dies
Condition - None
Action - Unit - Add reincarnation to triggering unit.

Now I don't know what to do sorry. Play around with tirggers for a while or wait for someone to answer your question.

 

[Ardnived]

awh i wanted to do it without triggers just a spell but i guess its fine

Action - Unit - Add reincarnation to triggering unit.

I cant find that action


Does anyone know how i can make a condition for the above trigger that makes it so that the hero in question has to know a certain spell?

 

[Rui]

You should probably check the level of the ability. If it's lower than 0.


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[PurplePoot]

The action is

Unit - Add Ability

 

[Ardnived]

i think this thread was properly placed in the help zone after all it does say:

Need help with the world editor? Ask questions about triggers, spells, scripts etc.

I dont need to add an ability he has as soon as he learns it since its a hero ability, what i want is that the ability reincarnates him as something else when he dies like i said like a reincarnation/metamorphasis cross

and Rui i have no idea how that would help nor do i see how to check that

 

[PurplePoot]

Yeah, that forum description needs updating. Blegh.

Rui was referring to

Does anyone know how i can make a condition for the above trigger that makes it so that the hero in question has to know a certain spell?

Use an Integer Comparison.

 

[Ardnived]

okay ill try that

 

[Drain Pipe]

I DO have a bunch of ability ideas, BUT I'm not sure what you want to do. We don't need to use a "works-for-everything" ability depending on the conditions of the ability. I need to know how exactly the ability is supposed to work, which includes any durations and conditions (ie is this a buff, a passive, is it permanent, or does it have a duration etc etc etc....). Then I can better help you out. There are a few ways to set this up but I gotta know how you want it to work more than what you've told me because there are short cuts and certain ways in which we set this up in order for it to work properly. Abilities that revolve around a hero dying, other than stock wc3 abilities, require a lot of thought and planning in order to work properly and run smoothly.

For example, just basing this off a unit dying might not be best because if they aren't really intended to die, then the enemy still would gain experience and gold and the death message would still display and all that jazz....unless you had a custom hero death system and bounty system, and all those effects, which normally occur on their own, are triggered instead.

So basically, I need to know what you want for the effect, because we might not even need that or any triggering to make this work the way you want it.

 

[Ardnived]

This is a passive ability, when the hero dies (he is intended to die) he is resurrected as a different unit, the enemy still gains experience and gold (though i havent figured out how tomake none creep units give bounty), however i want this second unit only to last about three minutes then he turns back into the original unit (sorta like the metamorphasis spell but plus the dieing required to activate it), if he dies as the second unit or before the spell finishes five minute cooldown he is gone for good (unless ressurected at an altar or equivelent)

this would be a whole lot easier to explain if you have seen a TV show called StarGate SG-1, have you?

 

[Drain Pipe]

I have., so go on.

 

[Just_Spectating]

um, can u base it off reincarnation instead and then when teh hero revives you order him to metamorph with actions and stuff that will last for 3 mins and turn back to regular hero

 

[Ardnived]

um, can u base it off reincarnation instead and then when teh hero revives you order him to metamorph with actions and stuff that will last for 3 mins and turn back to regular hero

interesting idea but then he'd have to have 2 abilities

I have., so go on.

K so the map is based of Stagate SG-1 basically what this ability is suppose to be is when Daniel Jackson dies he comes back as an Ascended Being, then after a certain time he is forced by the ancients to take a human form once again (i know thats not completely accurate seeing how really he would have to retake human form immediately after he interfered) , but of course the ascended being has to be a different unit since his stats would change and he'd probably have different abilities.

I hope that explains a bunch if not i feel my preivous explanation will be suficient

 

[Just_Spectating]

u can add metamorph order him to use it then remove metamorph

 

[Drain Pipe]

hmmm, well doesn't the phoenix have that ability where, when it dies, it transforms into the egg for X duration, and then, if duration finishes and egg isn't dead, it transforms back into phoenix? Would that work for ya?

 

[Just_Spectating]

you mean pheonix egg? hmmm that works perfectly lol hey Ardnived i think Drain Pipe just solved ur problem, use Pheonix Egg as the ability

 

[Ardnived]

hmmm, well doesn't the phoenix have that ability where, when it dies, it transforms into the egg for X duration, and then, if duration finishes and egg isn't dead, it transforms back into phoenix? Would that work for ya?

maybe but that really isnt any different from reincarnation i dont see how i could make him com eback as someone else

u can add metamorph order him to use it then remove metamorph

i guess, well if all else fails ill go for that

 

[Just_Spectating]

cause look at the object editor and look at the egg abil, theres an alternate unit data that u can change, also the original unit data u can change. so instead of turning into an egg you can turn into a unit that moves and stuff

 

[Ardnived]

oooh, thaty might just work thanks so much ill Draind and Just, ill try that and see if it works

k i tried it but there are 2 problems

1) it isnt an ability thats just the way the units works
2) i don't want the unit to lose HP over time

 

[Just_Spectating]

ahem, ok theres a data that makes it lose hp. i dont know which one but i would change any negative values positive and if your talking about unit, then its just the regen rate is negative. that makes the unit lose hp over time, good for like generic unit timers without trigger.

 

[Drain Pipe]

I'm sure it's an ability.

it's this one: Phoenix Morphing (Egg Related).

also the life loss is because of the negative regeneration the phoenix has, the unit won't normally have that. And the timer can be modified.

 

[Just_Spectating]

that was what i was reffering to, but he said he tried it and got problems.. that confused me.. ok Ardnived, if you say you try it and it does that then ask questions, if you didnt try it yet then wait till you do, cause ur confusing me

 

[Ardnived]

ahem, ok theres a data that makes it lose hp. i dont know which one but i would change any negative values positive and if your talking about unit, then its just the regen rate is negative. that makes the unit lose hp over time, good for like generic unit timers without trigger.

okay i didnt know that now i know and can fix it

also i did try it i just couldnt find any ability that the egg or phoenix had obviously its a dummy (invisible) ability

ill look for that ability and tell you what happens

EDIT:
I found the ability and changed the info havent tested it yet though