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Murder Incognito

Submitted by leventopoulo
This bundle is marked as approved. It works and satisfies the submission rules.
Murder Incognito

Plot
Obnoxious detective Dick acquires a case about the murder of a young woman, only to find out that there is a much more sinister scheme surrounding this case....


Duration: 15 minutes
Genre: Crime,Mystery,Thriller
Creator: leventopoulo



Screen-shots:

The First scene:
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Screen-shots:

Detective Dick:
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Like in previous maps I used the AT&T Text to speech engine, with the addition of my voice. Also please tell me what you think of my map in the comments! Thank you.

The Idea Behind the Cinematic:
Starting from 2009 I have been uploading cinematic maps on the hive. Most of my maps had failed to grasp the quality that the hive required, but after a lot of frustration and devotion I finally found the idea of adding voices of Text to Speech engines and decided to incorporate them in my maps. The idea to me was sound, although many do not find the voices emotional enough. To me, having voices is the key ingredient to any cinematic map, I prefer it over silence. In the future I hope to find real voice actors. My previous maps had text to speech but no real scripting was done, everything was though of at the moment, so they lacked the quality that, I believe, this map delivers.

Anyway, this map was though of after writing a script, called "Incognito Killings", to make into a short film with my friends. The short film idea was demolished (other projects were pursued and completed) and I decided to make a map with parts of the script. The final product is a 15 minute cinematic using 1/3 of the script. I started developing the map in December 2011 and finished it by march the next year. I added some final touches to it and uploaded it to the hive shortly after that.

In order for the map to be approved an adventure had to ensue. After a personal disagreement with one of the moderators, he wrongfully rejected the map. But of course this action was unfair and the map was approved some time later by another moderator. I now hold no ill thoughts of that moderator, and I hope he does not hold any grudges on me.

The map was recently updated and a bonus scene was added. I hope viewers will enjoy the final product. A lot of love and attention was given to it. I doubt I will invest more time on creating a whole new map. Once, in 2013, I tried to make a whole new cinematic with extensive dialogue but after working for a month on it, my computer crashed and all data was erased. Alas I was extremely disappointed and stopped for two years. In 2015 I decided to increase the quality of this map, hoping that its legacy will be remember on the hive. I will update it again sometime...


Change Log:

v1.0: The map was uploaded. The original unrated version
v1.1: Toned down the language and corrected annoying typos.
v1.2: Improved Sound quality, small dialogue alterations, added bonus scene.
v1.3: Replaced TTS voice with a human one. Added movement in the interrogation scene.
V1.4: Adapted for Reforged ( Fixed broken camera angles, sky, synced music). Post-Credit scene added (Which I had done years ago but didn't upload that version).



Credits:

MUSIC/SOUNDS:
Thanks to AT&T for their amazing Text To speech demo.
Thanks to LA Noire for the Jazz music theme
And the majestic Ave Maria composers.
Special thanks to FindSounds.com
MODEL MAKERS:

Police car
By skrab

Camera Man
By The Weird Human

phdoodadwall01
By Pyramidhe@d

Male villager variation (Black haired version)
By Dan van Ohllus



Enjoy!

Keywords:
leventopoulo,detective,murder,incognito,spy,crime,thriller,horror,mystery,cool,dick,police
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Murder Incognito (Map)

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Vengeancekael [img] Date: 2012/Dec/07 20:13:16 [Please do not send me a message, use Staff Contact] [img] Comment:Kind of a funny cinematic, I like Detective Dick's attitude, but it does become annoying after a while, especially his pauses and...
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    Date: 2012/Dec/07 20:13:16
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    Comment:
    Kind of a funny cinematic, I like Detective Dick's attitude, but it does become annoying after a while, especially his pauses and "dude". You stretched out the funniness of his attitude too much. Making other characters funny would be an option.
    The robotic voices are an ok addition, but they also start hurting your ears at some point. Detective Dick's voice acting is perfect, especially his joker laugh.
    The camera work could use some work, try moving the camera constantly, not really fast, but quite slowly, zooming in or out of characters. And show the speaking character from the front.
    The grammar needs work: "He might of..." -> "He might have..."
    "Whos There?" -> "Who's there?"
    etc.
    The terrain also needs some work, it doesn't really look beautiful or natural, try adding custom models, the interiors could also use more doodads, especially the interrogation room.
    But overall it can be really funny for some.​
    Acceptable
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    17/05/12 - Vengeancekael: Approved.
    15/05/12 - Vengeancekael: Set back to pending.

    Old moderation
    Date: 14:21:38 14-May-12
    Map Moderator: -Kobas-
    Map Status: Rejected 1/5
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    Comment: Please fix some names and replace bad words.
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  2. sonofjay

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    Your images are broken.
     
  3. leventopoulo

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    Not anymore! :p
     
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    Looks interesting I'll watch it later
    ~DL

    EDIT: Here is my review

    Bad:
    Voices actors sounds like robots, you better not used any program for voice acting.
    Scripts are also bad.
    I don't really like the conversation, since the voices really ruined everything.
    Camera movements is also bad.


    Good:
    Nice sound effects/music.


    Suggestions:
    Find a real person to do the voice acts.
    Improve your scripts
    Make the conversations realistic or more natural


    I won't rate this since I don't really rate cinematics.
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2012
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    Wow? Is this map still pending?? WTF!?!?! approve! Its awesome! LOL
    Nice voices! I also liked the plot twist!! I though michael did it. lolol

    -Terrain is awesome
    -Camera movement is really pro like
    -Voices +++ cool
    -Plot Awesome
    -Music beyond awesome! I play LA Noire too!
    5/5
     
  6. sonofjay

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    @Cocaine, seriously...

    If you want to watch real cinematics, find King Klear's work
     
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    Look. I watched one of King Klear's cinematics, Pact of vengeance.
    Honest to god i think Murder incognito is better. Both cinematics have great terrain and Sh*t, nice music etc. But, I was entertained by this cinematic more.
    1rst of all its longer and this dude must have put a lot of effort in to it
    2nd You cant judge a cinematic because of its voice acting. Just cuz king klear has human voices doesn't mean its better. Also Detective Dicks voice was cool. I liked it. i think that wraps up my reply!
    Cheers
     
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    Thanks Cocaine. But seriously? Please don't compare me to King Klear. I don't want to step in to anyone's shoes or anything.
     
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    Warning: may contain spoilers



    I personally think King Klear's age-old cinematic Pact of Vengeance is better, but that's beside the point.

    This cinematic is your best by far, the music really fit the scenes.

    Though the AT&T Text to Speech has some nice voices, it's not meant for any voice acting (due to the obvious lack of emotion). I was laughing when I heard the robot-voice say "Words cannot express my feelings right now" in a completely emotionless manner.
    But I'm not a map moderator anymore, so I don't have to have high standards! I liked that you put in the effort to add voice acting, instead of going for complete silence.
    Your own voice acting was very good though, surprisingly good actually.

    The hardest thing to do is probably work out a good detective script, considering the cinematic only lasts for about 10 minutes or so.
    I felt that you gave away the plot twist way too early: when Jason was accusing Dick, it already became clear what was about to happen. From there on it followed the most logical course and ended the way I kinda expected it to end.
    It's not something I accuse you for though, since 10 minutes is just horribly short for a really good detective story.

    Lots and lots of lazy grammar (missing capitals, missing apostrophe's and all that) and some typo's.
    Might want to fix those, it really helps your text to look better. ( I'm, can't, ... ).
    Also: the voice says "foul", yet you always write "fool". Change it all to "foul" :)


    The interview at the end is a nice addition, quite liked that. In fact: this may be your first cinematic I sort-of enjoyed watching.
    Good job :)
     
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    Thank you Ap0calypse! Your opinion really means a lot to me! :D

    I wanted to add some misleading plot twist, but i failed so i decided to just get to the point and reveal the real killer! :p
    LOL the "Words cannot express my feelings right now" is the Microsoft Sam voice. I thought it was funny too.

    I'm going to start correcting the grammar right away! will update shortly! :D

    Thanks again! And Be good! :D
     
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    @leventopoulo

    If you want the story to be more serious find a real person to voice act, but if you want to keep the lolz just keep the voice act, but improve your grammar.

    Even though I my review have many negative points believe me I watch this 3 times for the lolz :psmile:
     
  12. leventopoulo

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    Yeah, well i did try to add comedic elements in the cinematic, hence the "Joker laugh" and some of the funny Text to speech dialogue. But of course i want the story to have meaning and a pinch of seriousness.

    I am glad you enjoyed it though. !!! peace!
     
  13. sonofjay

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    If you want the story to be serious then I suggest to fix or change some of the lines.
     
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    Alright, while this cinematic has some weak points, it's still approvable.
    However, you will have to tone down the language a bit, remove at least half of those swear words.
    Oh and those typos are quite annoying.
    Next, post the credits in the description here.
    And afterwards I'll approve it.
     
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    ^
    My Melee map is pending for 3 weeks, >:C

    Anyway agree with the swear words, try to reduce or maybe remove them all.
     
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    Ok, I'm working on it! Correcting typos and toning down the language! Its gonna be ready the day after tomorrow or tomorrow afternoon!!!!
    :p:p:p:p
     
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    Ctrl+Shift+N for Incognito Window, let the "fun" begin, if you know what i mean^^

    ontopic:
    wtf i thought this was a game xD
    i doubt i could give good critism since i don't know much about cinematics my self but there are some things that IMO you could do to improve your cinematic:

    -remove the "robotic" speeches and try to find ppl to do them for you
    -wc3 doodads are simple and boring, it would be better to use some HQ trees, fences etc. (pm me if you need help with HQ models)
    -wc3 units are also simple and boring, im pretty sure you can find some good police men with guns to use
    -maybe you could add more eye-candy like for example the murderer setting the house on fire after killing the victim and a firetruck comes and shoots water on the house to put out the fire:p
     
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    Interesting idea with the firetruck! I'll add it in my next cinematic :p

    Thanks for the advice! Will take note for possible update and/or future cinematic projects of mine!

    :p
     
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    i like crime and investigation cinematic.
    Should customize the map units doodads and so on.
    wc3 defaults are boring.
    Well i like robotic voice either.
    the first scene, if possible, use nice looking doodads and unit.
    users like me would choose to play games which are more eye-pleasing, with good visual effects. The first impression is important!
    well it is good that dick talked about the camera.
    a camera in a crime investigation would be weird.

    was surprised dick actually died.
    a normal cinematic would be dick solving the crime, instead.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2012