Mighty Races 1.1

[Shar Dundred]

Please read the Map Description - Templates and the Map Submission Rules and take the
time to improve your map's description accordingly.
Also make sure to include the proper tags for your map.

 

[Daffa]

Map Submission Rules

Not much of a difference. Pretty much just humans made broken.

1. Heroes are OP
2. Captain and Footman are technically higher tier now
3. Many chaos attack that broke melee

Overall, there's nothing much here. I do not recommend to play this map.

Included a game to showcase these points.

Recommendation for Reviewers: Substandard.

 

[PcGamer0_0]

Well u know its my first map maybe in feature i will make things better.

 

[Wazzz]

From what I can gather based on the description alone and seeing a bit of Daffa's playthrough, this appears to be a map that simply adds what the Campaign attempted to add in, but without any of the pesky "quality control". In between Hydromancers casting Flame Strike and having unlimited Captains, there is something to be said for this submission, but it's nothing I care to repeat.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I wanted to wait with re-moderating this, but after having watched @Daffa's video (thanks for providing that) & reading the updated description, I have decided to put this into Substandard.
If your map is not ready for release yet - and it clearly isn't - but is still work in progress, you should use the Map Development forum instead.
It is obvious that you are new to mapping and I do not wish to discourage you at all, but I highly recommend that you take a look at the WarCraft III Tutorials to improve your mapping skills.
Right now, the human race is outright broken. The units are just too powerful and as player you can recruit an infinite amount of heroes while the AI won't recruit a single one.
Also, seeing a Hydromancer cast Flame Strike is... something else.

You stated yourself that you intend to update more races which is why I directed you to the Map Development forum for that one is supposed to be used for "maps in progress".

Put into Substandard.

 

[PcGamer0_0]

U say broken i will try to make it harder to play it.Its just 1 of 5 maps . I m still working.
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[Daffa]

U say broken i will try to make it harder to play it.Its just 1 of 5 maps . I m still working.
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You missed the crucial point here.

By making humans stronger, you directly break the melee game. This will result in humans being imbalanced, thus the map is not fun to play for other races.

 

[Wazzz]

What I find most disconcerting is the level of ambition far outweighing the level of effort. There's going to be four more of these bad boys?

 

[PcGamer0_0]

What u want from me Daffa? i m newbie ok? i m just learning things. i just want to learn and make fun maps. i will update it after 1 hour i hope u gonne enjoy it !

 

[Wazzz]

I mean, Daffa and Shar both told you what they want from you, and have both been very understanding of you being a newbie. There's a lot to learn, it's just worth mentioning that this isn't a map that is worth uploading, at least not in the Map's section while it's still under development.

It's definitely worth looking at Altered Melee maps, as that seems to be the style you are experimenting with - they typically involve altering the melee gameplay style in some fashion, typically by adding in extra factions to play as.

For a direct comparison of what you have so far here, it's really just editing one pre-existing race with elements that have been used a lot by modders for a long time. It's a decent enough starting point, but it's also not really anything we haven't seen before, which is where you can learn and develop.

 

[Daffa]

Wazzz pretty much explains my intentions. There's a lot of work needed to make this map approvable.

 

[PcGamer0_0]

Well try to understand me i know there is need to be a lot of work but for the first time some one download plays it and leaves commet then in comment do not reccomemden . U could just leave comment that u need to upgrade map then i will upgrade it.I m just editing the races not full map.

 

[Shar Dundred]

The Map Section is for finished maps, not for in progress ones.
That is what Map Development is for, as I stated earlier. That is why I linked it.

There is nothing wrong with wanting feedback before your map is ready, it is just that
you didn't go to the right place which is why I told you where it was.

 

[Wazzz]

It is also perfectly valid for someone to say they do not recommend this map, as that is what this section is for - users can say whether or not they recommend a map, as well as list reasons why they made the choice they did.
In this instance, this map has very little to offer - it's fine if you want to edit races, that has been done before, but so far all this map really serves to do is change an existing race in a game mode that has already been fine tuned over many years and will likely continue to be fine tuned. This isn't so much a notion of simply upgrading the map, it's been uploaded as version 1.0, which indicates a final and released product that, while it can still be updated, should also be treated as a final and released product.