Metroid Container

[Moderator]

18:55, 17th Oct 2008
Pyritie: Dude, wtf is with that poly count. Texture needs a lot of work. The glass should be Unshaded. Heck, the shader is weird all over the place. Please fix this. Oh, and part of the model is underground. Why is the metroid spazzing inside anyway?

26th Oct 2008
Pyritie: Changes not made, resource rejected. If you ever get around to fixing this, feel free to resubmit it.

 

[Zerox]

Yeah this model came out great. The two of us did a great job. I hope people like it. ^^

 

[glampson]

meh its alright file size seems a little big for such a simple model

 

[varsaigen]

hmmm... I should probably compress/shrink it down.

Thanks.

 

[KKRP]

Oh, Ahh.

 

[D a w n]

way too many polies
and I think you should also create a version without the metroid but with an attachment with the metroids animations, because then people who use your container and xerox metroid model could attach the metroid model to your model and you would still get the same effect then + the file size would be lower.

 

[varsaigen]

um... I don't think that is an easy thing to do... Because that isn't very simple, and I like simple. Simple's good. And how many people are going to attach a model to a doodad anyway?

Answer: Not many would think or even attempt that. It would require triggers. :/

 

[Lord_T]

Hmm... Still way too much poies...
The glass part of the tube can be 1 segment... instead of like 10. This isn't usable as is, way too much polies

I like the concept, though. Maybe you could make the stand animation longer and the metroid move slower, like it's in a trance.

 

[HappyTauren]

dude, will you ever learn? Look at some wc3 models, they dont have 235235235 triangles and useless stacks.

 

[varsaigen]

HappyTauren, I will fix those. Ok? I simply forgot to remove the stacks for the glass. I will remove any unnesasary parts that make it worse, but honestly, I do learn. It's just that I may forget a few steps until I'm used to them...

 

[HappyTauren]

It's not about forgetting... you don't even MAKE those stacks, you make one stack instantly. Oh, and it isn't only glass, look at the creature on the inside as well... the geometry is lowtf, and it's got soooo many stacks.

 

[varsaigen]

... so, you want a pyramid as a metroid? -_- I don't see any stacks in it. If you would please point them out, I will see if I can fix them. Thank you.

 

[HappyTauren]

Dude. You are making a wc3 model, not a half life one. Yours looks TOO SMOOTH in the places it shouldn't.

 

[varsaigen]

and which places are those? the fangs on the metroid? I had origionally designed the metroid as a seperate model, but Zerox finished his metroid before me. :/ so I came up with the idea of putting mine in the container. :/ Should I have broken down the fangs to make it simpler?

 

[HappyTauren]

Fangs don't need more than... let me calculate... 9 triangles each. And yours have, more like, over 9 thousand.

 

[varsaigen]

ok, I will make them basic. Thanks.

Edit: I've fixed the container but haven't updated it yet.

 

[Zerox]

Heh I'm sorry varsaigen. XD Its not that bad guys. Polies aren't the devil. And I could make a seperate model with attachments.

 

[varsaigen]

I have the container done and I'l remake the fangs and clean up the membrane shell. Almost ready for reupload.

 

[HappyTauren]

good!

 

[varsaigen]

Ok, I fixed it, but it doesn't look nearly as good due to the deletion of the stacks. :/ It saccrifises the frozen effect for polies. D=

 

[jadegolem]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU SAMUS NOOO T_T!!!!!..... *wisper wisper* ohh.. so they didnt turn her into a weird round metroid or watever its called majigity..... *wisper*... NOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY DID TURN MOTHER BRAIN INTO ONE T_T!!! T_T!!! nice model the metriod looks kinda..... odd... =D! NOOOO!

 

[Avex]

Ralle: How many polies made his Metroid Container Tauren?

HappyTauren: OVER 9000!

Sorry had to say that.

Its a nice model, but I agree it has uber polies.


EDIT: Damnit I always forget to read the freaking 2nd page! Less polies ftw =)

 

[varsaigen]

I already remade the shield and the metroid as basic as possible. How much lower (poly count) can I possibly go?!?! OO

 

[Jack_Sparrow93]

Good job guys!!! 5/5

 

[Zerox]

Guess I should download this to see the lower quality version.

 

[varsaigen]

it's not pretty. :/ It looks like someone attempted to clean it and left streak marks on the forcefiled/glass. :/ I really should just reupload the beter quality version. >.>

 

[HappyTauren]

I still don't get how you managed to jam 1500+triangles into that.

 

[varsaigen]

into what?

 

[HappyTauren]

Into that model. I mean. It should have 300, 500 TOPS, and you managed to jam 1500 triangles into it, which is 5 or 3 times as much as it should have.

 

[Zerox]

If I recall correctly the max limit allowed here was 3000?

 

[varsaigen]

eh, I could have made it so basic as to fit your desires of the poly amount, HT, but then it would look like the pikachu model Dan Van Ohllus made. In other words, it would look blocky as suck horribly.

 

[HappyTauren]

No. This is warcraft III, not oblivion. Also, even if limit is 3000, you are allowed to get past the limit if you ADD SOME DETAIL instead of just making stuff look smooth. Basically, "smooth" things are a big no no in warcraft, while detailed ones but highpoly are good. Smooth is when you put 16 sided cylinder just like that, where you could've put an 8 sided one. Or when you put a 5X25 poly sphere where you could simply make bilboarding plane (2 triangle). It's all about optimization.

 

[Ghoulord]

as this is the only kind of cryo/stasis unit i've seen made, i think it looks quite good. however, making a more 'wc3 human' sized model would definately solve that, as this ones a bit limited to metroid games. oh, and i don't rly care bout poly counts and stuff. so long as the model is up to the task of the mapper, it doesn't rly matter.

 

[varsaigen]

I already have a design from a few days ago for a human stasis container. I just have to make it. And I don't see why there can't be a fw more polies to at least make this look good.

 

[HappyTauren]

Because they don't, it is visible in game (too smooth). Not to you, though.

 

[varsaigen]

hmmm... ok. :/

 

[Uxiro]

Does it have a play death / play decay animation? 'Cause It'f be more useful (to me atleast) if it did, maybe just make a small hole in the glass and remove the metroid?

 

[Zerox]

Its got a death animation yes. The energy barrier lowers and the metroid escapes.

 

[varsaigen]

hmmm... maybe I should've made a decay anim, where the container is missing the metroid. XD

 

[Zerox]

hmmm... maybe I should've made a decay anim, where the container is missing the metroid. XD

I don't know up to you.

 

[varsaigen]

lol. It isn't a bad idea... Although, if it's in the center of a room with nothing supportin the top, what's to keep it from falling?

 

[Zerox]

lol. It isn't a bad idea... Although, if it's in the center of a room with nothing supportin the top, what's to keep it from falling?

Thats a good point I never really thought of that. I guess its just usually assumed that its supported when the energy field is down.

 

[varsaigen]

anti-gravity. XD (just slap a few tiny engined on it and it'l be fine. XD

 

[Pyritie]

Look at the spheres inside the metroid, varsaigen. Those spheres should be like cubes or something, not massively polied spheres.

And like HT said. Fix the stacks.

 

[varsaigen]

so, the stacks in the metroid are the spheres? or is it the shell? I fixed the stacks in the fangs... Anyway, thanks for critique.

 

[Pyritie]

Stacks on the container.

 

[varsaigen]

so, where on the container are there stacks? Cause there's the base and the Shield that overlap

 

[Uxiro]

Thats a good point I never really thought of that. I guess its just usually assumed that its supported when the energy field is down.

Its attached to the ceiling maybe?

 

[varsaigen]

yeah, it would be, but in Wc3, the typical view is from above, without a cieling. Now, what I could have done was put a few rods on 4 sides as a visual support.