Master Medivh

Kyrbi0 · Aug 24, 2016

I... Um. Why exactly did you give up on this for the Hero Contest?? It's amazing.

And I mean, yeah it was patterned after & even looks like Medivh... But a simple face-mesh-change could solve that. Like, if it was even necessary! He's plenty generic enough for a cool, wizened old mage-dude.

Same with the crow-cloak. Yeah, that's Medivh's thing, but it can be explained away relatively easily; some kind of Druid-type deal, ~~animal~~ NO, avian-whisperer, crow-totem human who studied under Night elves & so eschews his former ties to the Alliance and became Neutral (i.e. Tavern fodder)

Actually, yeah, that's not bad; have him be a sort of "Mage-Druid" multi-class mix, with some Arcane abilities giving way to an overall Druidic-bent. Feather-themed might be another thing to go with, or "avian channeler" (like one of these guys, courtesy Unsounded).

It's not too late, man. If you were working on this only since the Contest started, just, like, take it down & keep going. Either way I'm sure you'll do great things but man, this is pretty neat.

Hjorleif · Aug 24, 2016

I agree with Kyrbi0 this is a pretty awesome model, great job.

Stefan.K · Aug 24, 2016

Kyrbi0 said:
I... Um. Why exactly did you give up on this for the Hero Contest?? It's amazing.

And I mean, yeah it was patterned after & even looks like Medivh... But a simple face-mesh-change could solve that. Like, if it was even necessary! He's plenty generic enough for a cool, wizened old mage-dude.

Same with the crow-cloak. Yeah, that's Medivh's thing, but it can be explained away relatively easily; some kind of Druid-type deal, ~~animal~~ NO, avian-whisperer, crow-totem human who studied under Night elves & so eschews his former ties to the Alliance and became Neutral (i.e. Tavern fodder)

Actually, yeah, that's not bad; have him be a sort of "Mage-Druid" multi-class mix, with some Arcane abilities giving way to an overall Druidic-bent. Feather-themed might be another thing to go with, or "avian channeler" (like one of these guys, courtesy Unsounded).

It's not too late, man. If you were working on this only since the Contest started, just, like, take it down & keep going. Either way I'm sure you'll do great things but man, this is pretty neat.

WELL IT WAS STARTED WHEN I SAW THE CONTEST AND WANTED TO PARTICIPATE. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T SEE HIM AS A TAWERN HERO. CAN I CHOOSE THIS MODEL FOR THE CONTEST THEN IF MY PARTNER CHOOSE IT? I WILL ASK RHEIKO'S OPINION, HE WILL DECIDE.

Kyrbi0 · Aug 24, 2016

Stefan.K said:
WELL IT WAS STARTED WHEN I SAW THE CONTEST AND WANTED TO PARTICIPATE. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T SEE HIM AS A TAWERN HERO. CAN I CHOOSE THIS MODEL FOR THE CONTEST THEN IF MY PARTNER CHOOSE IT? I WILL ASK RHEIKO'S OPINION, HE WILL DECIDE.

Ah, that might be the rub. If I'm reading you right (hard to do with all that shouting ;P), you had this model started already before the Contest started; in which case no, you (unfortunately) could not use it for the Contest ("no previous work allowed"). If that's the case, it stinks, I know. But yeah.

Check the dates.

Stefan.K · Aug 24, 2016

NO, YOU GOT ME WRONG. I STARTED IT FOR THE CONTEST, WHEN RHEIKO ASKED ME IF WE COULD MAKE A TEAM, I WAS LOOKING FOR A REFERENCE AND FOUND THIS ONE, ALTERNATE VERSION OF HIM, ASKED RHEIKO AND HE SAID I CAN MAKE THAT MODEL. AND I DID. I MADE IT DURING THE CONTEST, I WROTE WRONG. DAMN, NOW YOU WILL SUSPECT THAT I LIED, BUT @Rheiko CAN CONFIRM IT.

Kyrbi0 · Aug 24, 2016

No man, don't worry; you've got the benefit of the doubt from me. (although if you keep all the old WIP copies of your models as you work on them, it shouldn't be hard to prove in Windows with "Date Last Created/Modified/Accessed" info)

If you started work on the model anytime after the official start of the Contest, you're in the clear to use it. Now, I have no idea if you have the design (feel free to use my suggestions, *cough*) & coding to back that up (and in just a few days), or can retrofit the existing coding to "make sense" for this guy (PM me for details), but yeah, totally.

Galendor an'Kreil · Aug 25, 2016

Now this is true Medivh, Guardian of Tirisfal, the most powerful mage in Azeroth! Great work. I especially admire his boots and TC part of the cloak.

Stefan.K · Aug 25, 2016

Reflex said:
Now this is true Medivh, Guardian of Tirisfal, the most powerful mage in Azeroth! Great work. I especially admire his boots and TC part of the cloak.

THANKS. I WAS EXPERIMENTING WITH WRAPPING ALITTLE AND GOT THAT IDEA OF USING BM'S TEXTURE.

Rubellu Sidus · Aug 25, 2016

Very awsome model. Based fron HoTS???? 5/5

Stefan.K · Aug 25, 2016

Casper the Friend said:
Very awsome model. Based fron HoTS???? 5/5

WELL, KIND OF. IN THE FIRST PLACE I FOUND A REFERENCE ON GOOGLE BUT THEN I DISCOVERED IT'S FROM HOTS.

-Grendel · Aug 26, 2016

your best work so far but you gotta work more on how you create your triangles, the texture became distorted because you divided the plane the wrong way.

Stefan.K · Aug 26, 2016

-Grendel said:
THA

your best work so far but you gotta work more on how you create your triangles, the texture became distorted because you divided the plane the wrong way.

-Grendel said:
your best work so far but you gotta work more on how you create your triangles, the texture became distorted because you divided the plane the wrong way.

THANKS FOR THE SUGGESTION. AS I CANNOT FIX THAT NOW, I WILL WATCH FOR THAT IN FUTURE. I CANNOT FIX IT SINCE IF I UPLOAD IT IN MILKSHAPE AGAIN IT WILL LOSE ANIMATIONS AND BONES.

-Grendel · Aug 26, 2016

keep in mind though that when creating meshes (especially for arms, legs, etc.) your triangle distribution should be like this to avoid texture distortion when the model gets animated:

Kyrbi0 · Aug 26, 2016

-Grendel said:
keep in mind though that when creating meshes (especially for arms, legs, etc.) your triangle distribution should be like this to avoid texture distortion when the model gets animated:

Man, I can't be worrying about 'triangle distribution'; I'm still trying to stop the pretty red lights from zipping all over the place. :O

Stefan.K · Aug 26, 2016

-Grendel said:
keep in mind though that when creating meshes (especially for arms, legs, etc.) your triangle distribution should be like this to avoid texture distortion when the model gets animated:

I thought it could not screw anything, looks like I was wrong. I always create mesh like that because of the wrapping. Thanks again, will have that in mind.

-Grendel · Aug 27, 2016

yep, making the lines meet in 1 point when creating a mesh for arms or legs tends to distort the texture when the mesh gets animated. it pulls all the texture on that 1 vertex in the first mesh on the example.

Stefan.K · Aug 27, 2016

-Grendel said:
yep, making the lines meet in 1 point when creating a mesh for arms or legs tends to distort the texture when the mesh gets animated. it pulls all the texture on that 1 vertex in the first mesh on the example.

Point taken.

JesusHipster · Oct 2, 2016

Reviewer's verdict:

This is some next-gen shit. The style is amazing. Works well, everything is in line. Fuck yeah keep this up. Five stars from me.

//Flaws I've noticed: you scale his hero-glow down in death animation and that's noticeable different from blizz models, which isn't too good in this case; portrait doesn't look too good compared to blizz models. i might be a nerd in this regard, but i think that they made a good job with talking heads in wc3 and it's something to look up to.

Also stand second or stand third could make for a good Stand-2 animations so that it would play ingame along with Stand-1.

stein123 · Oct 2, 2016

BTW, do you plan to add an alternate portrait for the raven form?

Aleister · Oct 3, 2016

It is a very good alternative! :infl_thumbs_up:

Snarbolax · Oct 4, 2016

Hhmm. Interesting~

Darkfang · Oct 6, 2016

BTW just beautiful

Mgeterno11 · Oct 11, 2016

Looks very nice, especially the clothing. 5/5

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