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Lost my old battle.net account...

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I took a break from wc3 at the end of 2017. Recently I've been reinstalling it and slowly getting back into my main mod project.

I just found out I was supposed to merge my longtime Warcraft 3 battle.net account with my current one 6 whole years ago...and it looks like maybe they only gave 90 days notice...?


So, my old friends list and thumbs-downed maps and everything is completely gone I guess. Hurray.

Anyway, say what you will about me for deserving it b/c of inactivity or w/e - I just want to say: Fuck. Blizzard. Seriously, FUCK. Blizzard.

That is all.
 
Sad to hear this, but why are your maps gone?

Yeah i get the hate on Reforged, but it has become a lot better now.
While i don't use any HD features, everything SD works well. And the editor has new features and battle net is still alive - although more maps of different genres should be hosted.
 
Ok so Reforged get that better that u still use old graphic..... Editor triggers gets broken every update - friends told me that - so blizzard needed to roll back the triggers to older version at the end. Well... Reforged. Not only that even the greatest Warcraft 3 players like Grubby criticized Reforged and play on the old graphics too coz during the battle they cant clearly see whats going on on so called HD.
 
Sad to hear this, but why are your maps gone?
I meant like how you can thumbs-down maps that you don't want to play on when matching online for melee.

I'm more annoyed about losing touch w/so many people tho (not that I expect most of them to still play...). Some of them I had on AIM, but...that got nuked too around the time I quit wc3, and I also found out too late about that...
 
I'm more annoyed about losing touch w/so many people tho
Sir, mister IronBladeClan, let me tell you my personal opinion.

I was active and online at the time of the Reddit post you have linked. I maintained the same Battle.net account from maybe 2004 to 2020 at the time of the 90 day account merge you are referring to.

Unfortunately, the incompetent human beings at Activision took longer than 90 days to build the software to migrate accounts and so by the time it was available, the window was already over. Reforged lacked so many features there was nothing to migrate. If you buy Reforged and play it now, they have updated the ingame-webpage-menu so that it pretends to be the old game. Maybe it pretends to let you thumbs or thumbs down maps, or to have a ranking in your versus play, or whatever.

At the launch in the year 2020 there was not ranking, there were not clans, there was not any way to vote on maps for versus, and the only "friends list" was the Battle.net one that's mostly Real ID and that would most likely not have migrated over anyway.

In other words, you missed nothing because the button in the Reforged UI to link accounts didn't do anything. That's how buggy Reforged was at launch. It was essentially a deletion of the game you are trying to get back to. This is also why people who support recent Microsoft actions to paste over that product with pictures of the old game that more closely resemble the old game... create divisiveness. Because there are people like me who might sometimes think, "Hey you know I wish I could just play the old game," and in response the people at Microsoft changed the menu to be a picture of the old menu, and to move around in a format that sometimes resembles the old client a little more than it did before.

But at no point have they just made the old client available, so painting over their new client to make it look like the old one feels patronizing, and some people like me have this unpopular opinion that Microsoft's moves to "make it better" that everyone is supposed to accept as better are not only too little too late but also not... the original menu.

I'm really biased about this though. With Frozen Throne, when that thing was live, it was a lifelong part of my life I kept using across the years. With Reforged, it's fading, like I don't want to log into that thing anymore. This could be a personal problem. It's possible people would tell me that for 16 years from circa 2004 until 2020 personally I stayed the same, and from 2020 to now I changed and I'm the problem not the game (which they say Microsoft fixed).

Regardless of whether that is the case, this is still where I'm at. I don't want Microsoft patronizing me with a picture of what I wanted painted over what I don't want telling me it's fine. Sometimes I just want what I want as a consumer. And that's why switching to Linux instead of Windows for my operating system, even if it means Reforged doesn't work on my computer and I'm severed from the community, has been very pleasant. Because at least now I'm deciding what to do, or what changes.

Might be some personal problems there but the moral of the story is that you didn't miss anything. If you had been online, you would have still lost what you lost. There was no alternative. This is what Activision has done to you. I would perhaps tell you horrible things about the former leader of Activision, and about the texts between him and Miss GM in the files of Mister JE dumped by the US government, but when I have spoken badly of him in this way on this website my posts have largely been removed. You are always free to make your own decisions, but I find that I don't like Activision leadership. Even now that they are gone, my game experience is worse because of them having been there, and I assume some of their associates are still at Microsoft now.

Edit:
I'm not very interested in calling them Blizzard because they're BINO: Blizzard In Name Only. They are not the people who built the games in 2002-2003. They are the people who were so rich they could buyout the people who bought out the people who bought out the people who built the games in 2002-2003.

(Microsoft bought Activision, Activision bought Vivendi, Vivendi bought Blizzard)

The United States rebellion against the authority of kings was a good idea and in the same way I believe it might possibly be morally right for me to rebel against the authority of the BINO.

Because, yes... BINO charges you money to take your things away from you, and then taunt you that they might give them back 4 years later in a patch [which you can't even pay them to give you sooner].
I'm guessing you gave BINO money in order to try to play "the game" of the Warcraft III now that you're interested in it again? Do you feel any guilt?

EDIT 2:

If you go online and download older versions of the game and play them on 3rd party servers, due to a bug in the game code those servers gain "Run as Administrator" level access to your computer, bypassing all computer security. They also provide the host of any game session to have this level of control over your computer. There are very few reports of it being used in the wild but it's pretty terrifying. With my rant above, I'm not really trying to endorse bad computer security such as playing on old game versions on some pirate-y client. It's just actually sad what Activision / Microsoft did and continue to do with this game, and it's actually so bad that if I worked for them it's quite possible I couldn't make it better -- because of what Activision did. Most maps on Hive Workshop custom game sections fundamentally require the new game version so they're locked-in to no going back. The community is completely onboard with this lock-in and kind of has to be, because the old versions have the computer security issues. So I don't have some magic bullet solution for you to this problem, but I believe I should be allowed to say it like it is and tell you that it's a problem and it's not your fault.
 
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Might be some personal problems there but the moral of the story is that you didn't miss anything. If you had been online, you would have still lost what you lost. There was no alternative. This is what Activision has done to you. I would perhaps tell you horrible things about the former leader of Activision, and about the texts between him and Miss GM in the files of Mister JE dumped by the US government, but when I have spoken badly of him in this way on this website my posts have largely been removed. You are always free to make your own decisions, but I find that I don't like Activision leadership. Even now that they are gone, my game experience is worse because of them having been there, and I assume some of their associates are still at Microsoft now.

Edit:
I'm not very interested in calling them Blizzard because they're BINO: Blizzard In Name Only. They are not the people who built the games in 2002-2003. They are the people who were so rich they could buyout the people who bought out the people who bought out the people who built the games in 2002-2003.

Honestly, reading your comment does make me feel better, knowing that there was nothing I could have done. Thank you for taking the time to tell me all this.

And again, fuck BINO/Microsoft/Activision.


Thankfully, I don't think I've given them any money since I bought the last expansion for SC2. I stopped playing WoW too around the time WoD came out (oh, right, fuck them also for merging WoW accounts into bnet 2.0 and then not letting people transfer characters between bnet accounts anymore...now my characters that I paid for the privilege of sinking hundreds of hours into are all stuck on my brother's account).

I've been using an older version of wc3 for the most part too, with my old CD keys. I like that the Community Edition also seems to have its own private server. I might jump on that at some point if it functions properly.

I'm eagerly looking forward to more graphics conversion mods, to projects like Re-Reforged reaching completion, and to seeing what else the modding community puts out😌
 
I like that the Community Edition also seems to have its own private server. I might jump on that at some point if it functions properly.
Sounds fun! Yeah below is an example of one way I enjoy and remember Warcraft these days. It's super stupid and I hope this isn't seen as some self promotion (this wc3 map is not easily downloadable because of so many hacks, the map size is 8192x8192 even though max map size is supposed to be 480x480 lol):


But I think for me it's super fun when I have some dumb game experience like this, and even if it's on some ancient thing like Patch 1.22 modded so that the game can natively load WoW assets and maps, and other people may laugh and just literally tell me to go away with this, the character I'm playing in that video is a file on my hard drive playing on an offline game on my hard drive and so I can come back and replay the game experience shown in this video in 2036 and it'll be the same as now in 2026. I'm the one with the onus of preservation and although that's a double edged sword if my house burns down, I'm not going to lose my stuff due to corporate greed!

The night elf here, Landria, is a hero with Bear Form, Roar, Impaling Bolt, Scout, Shadow Strike, Searing Arrows Level 1, Rejuvenation, Blink, Reigns of the Devchicken, Car Keys, and Summon Goblin Zeppelin. And she uses the art file from https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Landria but from WoW alpha leak client 0.5.3 or whatever.

This hero is encoded in a w3u file of Warcraft III unit data that I have on my hard drive for the rest of my life! Landria will always be an available character, nobody will take that away!

now my characters that I paid for the privilege of sinking hundreds of hours into are all stuck on my brother's account).

I hope you don't see what I am saying as off topic -- my point isn't that you would have an easy time doing what I do. As in that video, what I am doing is maybe silly, and buggy, and based on old stuff, etc, etc. But basically if we want to preserve old things and forge our own path, Warcraft III modding lets us do that. And I think that's good

And again, fuck BINO/Microsoft/Activision.

We may as well forgive them. They literally don't understand the opportunity cost of what they could have built, but didn't, for lack of passion.

They can't fix it. That's outside their power. We can just live free and ignore them.
 
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