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Kings and Knights α

Kings and Knights α
Four King players battle each other for victory. Kings are base builders. The last standing Castle wins. Kings can hire Knights to help them achieve victory. Knights are mercenary-like heroes because they can change alliances. It is intended to be multiplayer PvP map with aspects of PvE. It should be intuitive for anyone familiar with standard wc3 games while also having a learning curve specific to the map, such as "item crafting recipes," making it it enjoyable to discover and play more than once.

Remarkable Features:
  • several custom models and icons added
  • overhauled king techtree
  • added DOTA style auto attack spawn waves for kings
  • balanced and added new hero options for knight players
  • knight players can pick any hero they want, not limited by lobby slot
  • new chat commands for joining kingdoms, cam commands, and more
  • 4 more knight slots added
  • black knight faction added, for knights that do not want to join kings
  • dozens of custom items and item upgrade options added
  • creep respawn system and more bosses added
  • leaderboard supported by wc3stats.com
  • much more

For future updates:
  • overhaul king AI script
  • add more hero options for knight players
  • fix any unknown bugs, fix anything blatantly unfair or uncounterable
  • possibly add new features, possibly re-terrain map
Background:
I remember playing this game concept as far back as sc1. About a year ago I was craving to play this game mode but struggled to find any maps, the few I did find were not taking advantage of custom models nor triggers. Not to mention several had blatant power imbalances. So, I slowly started adding custom models from Hive. Next thing you know I was further developing this map with my own ideas and player feedback. 100% of the triggers were added to the map by me. I originally started working on the version "e3.2" by "Rolphoe & DjolePro01" there are other similar versions that seem to be all based on the same map. Also in one of the quests GunTank01 is listed as an author and e3.2 may have been based on GunTank01's map. EpicKiDd's "Kings and Knights 1.5" could possibly one of these earlier iterations as the terrain amongst all these versions seems very similar. It is unclear who the true original author of the wc3 version is or who created the Kings and Knights concept originally. With that being said, this map was 99% produced by me. I did not anticipate doing so much to this map and I partly regret using e3.2 as a template. On the other hand, I think it is good to use e3.2 as a template because some minor things remain that help keep the original feel of some of the older maps of the same game mode, such as the "fire golem" boss. So in that sense it is a direct continuation of the Kings and Knights "family" of maps. After sometime I made so many changes I felt a rebranding under my own name was appropriate. When I hosted, the map often had a lot of problems so I called it alpha test. So I came to call it alpha edition.

CREDITS:
I was grabbing so many resources for this map, I cannot properly credit everyone. I regret not keeping better track of that. Tremendous thanks to all of the unknown people that knowingly or unknowingly contributed.

Special thanks to Daffa, Uncle, and Achille for going out of their way to teach me about World Editor.

Rightful Authors:
Template map: "Kings and Knights e3.2" by Rolphoe & DjolePro01
However it's unclear if they are intern the rightful authors of that map. The terrain on several Kings and Knights maps seems to be similar and ripped from each other, or some common "ancestor map" :xxd: even EpicKiDd's "Kings and Knights 1.5" seems to have similar terrain.
The posted map, Kings and Knights Alpha Version, has been radically overhauled from e3.2, it's barely the same and looking back I could/should have just started a fresh map (see Background section for more detail).
The concept creator of Kings and Knights is unknown.

General Credits:
Loading screen art (Luzia Gabriele, exact artist uncertain)
Intro song (Russel Bower "Call to Arms" (c) Blizzard Entertainment)
Several great ideas for the map (unknown players)
Leaderboard support, associated code, etc, by Strilanc from wc3stats.com

Spells:
Purification Bomb (@Daffa)
Maintenance (@Daffa)
Barbarian Spell Back (@Marcelo Hossomi)
Call of the Damned (@Empirean)

Triggers:
Gem Item Craft Trigger (@Uncle)
Item Leak Cleanup, other triggers (@Bribe)
Camera Trigger (@Achille)
Custom Single Player Cinematic Trigger (@PurgeandFire)
Creep Respawn (RG00, 3/17/2018)

Custom Icons, Models, and Skins from Hive:
As I was making this map I found more inspiration from the custom models and icons here on Hive, I probably would have not worked as much on this map without all of the custom assets. Thank you all so much.

Adelas Deathclaw (Model)
@Sellenisko

Advanced Metal Gauntlet (Model)
@Astaroth Zion

Alliance Dozer (Model)
@Hayate

Altar of Kings (Icon)
@stonneash

Altar of Storms (WC2) (Icon)
@loktar

Alterac Buildings
@bakr

Ancient Market
@purparisien

Angel and Fallen Angel (Model)
@Dionesiist

Arcane Runeblade (Model)
@Blood Raven

Arcane Tower (Model)
@skrab

Arcanic Pulse v2 (Model)
@NightSkyAurora

Archangel Mikael
@RavenBlackbird

Archer Lordaeron
@Asssssvi

Archmagi and Derivatives
@Ujimasa Hojo

ArmoredFootman
@BogdanKry

Armory (Model)
@Mr. Bob

Ashbringer (Icon)
@Murlocologist

Ashbringer (Model)
@Murlocologist

Ashkandi, Greatsword of the Brotherhood (Model)
@Hyunrai

Assorted City Buildings
@bakr

Auriel's Blessing - Wings [SFX Contest #6] (Model)
@JetFangInferno

Ax of earth (Icon)
@lebedevvladi4ka

Bag of Plums (Model)
@Blood Raven

Banana Item (Model)
@D.O.G.

Bandit Mage (Model)
@Stefan.K

Barracks (Model)
@Mike

Belt (Icon)
@8512590215848

Bishop (Icon)
@Darkfang

Black Legion Ranger (Icon)
@r.ace613

Black Legion Ranger (Model)
@johnwar

Black Legion Soldiers, Infantry and Cavalry (Icon)
@r.ace613

Blackberry (Icon)
@Sin'dorei300

BladeStorm (Model)
@JetFangInferno

Blessed Field (Model)
@chopinski

Bloodelf Rogue (aka Shadowblade) (Model)
@General Frank

Bloodelven Archer Maiden (Model)
@General Frank

BTN_Javeliner (Icon)
@Cavman

BTNAltar of Starlight2 (Icon)
@Null

BTNANAUnderseaKey (Icon)
@Anachron

BTNAncientAmulet (Icon)
@Infinitynexus

BTNAncientBook (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNAnkhOfRebirth (Icon)
@Palaslayer

BTNApple (Icon)
@Hayate

BTNArcane Spell (Icon)
@Null

BTNArcaniteRing (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNArchmage (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNAxeLash (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNBagOfPlums (Icon)
@DEE-BOO

BTNBaldie
@Deleted member 238226

BTNBanana3 (Icon)
@kola

BTNBerkano (Icon)
@AlienAtSystem

BTNBirial (Icon)
@BLazeKraze

BTNBlackArmor (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNBlackSteelShield (Icon)
@Marcos DAB

BTNBlessed Hammer (Icon)
@Null

BTNBloodElfMage (Icon)
@TheSlaveOfGod

BTNBlueBerries (Icon)
@NFWar

BTNblueJApotionGS (Icon)
@GooS

BTNBreakingSmash (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNburningPentagram (Icon)
@anath3ma

BTNCandyCaneFinal (Icon)
@~Nightmare

BTNCannonIcon (Icon)
@Sylvie

BTNChaosGraveyard (Icon)
@MasterHaosis

BTNChaosMill (Icon)
@MasterHaosis

BTNChaosPigFarm (Icon)
@MasterHaosis

BTNCharge (Icon)
Blizzard Entertainment

BTNclaws1 (Icon)
@Diegoit

BTNCRbendtime (Icon)
@CRAZYRUSSIAN

BTNCRHellHoundMorphP (Icon)
@CRAZYRUSSIAN

BTNCRHolylight (Icon)
@CRAZYRUSSIAN

BTNCrusader (Icon)
@Sin'dorei300

BTNcrWarp5 (Icon)
@CRAZYRUSSIAN

BTNCurseSword (Icon)
@plazma019

BTNCWGondorFootman (Icon)
@CloudWolf

BTNDarkCloak (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNDemoness (Icon)
@Gottfrei

BTNDemonForgedAtlas (Icon)
@JollyD

BTNDemonTower (Icon)
@HappyTauren

BTNDozerIIIcon (Icon)
@Hayate

BTNDrainLife (Icon)
@Muoteck

BTNDrinkAle (Icon)
@Sin'dorei300

BTNElementalSphere (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNEnergyPotion (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNEnhancedPurification (Icon)
@~Nightmare

BTNExigoBarracks (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNFacelessOneCultist (Icon)
@Scias

BTNfallenangel2 (Icon)
@darkdeathknight

BTNFalric (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNFireGauntlet (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNFireTurret (Icon)
@Marcos DAB

BTNGarlic (Icon)
@NFWar

BTNGarrv1 (Icon)
@Eagle X

BTNGarrv2 (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNGebo (Icon)
@AlienAtSystem

BTNGluttonyS (Icon)
@San

BTNGnollleap (Icon)
@Kimbo

BTNGnomeEngineer (Icon)
@Scias

BTNGoldMysticRing (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNGoldRingActive (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNGrapes (Icon)
@Big Dub

BTNGuardian of Ancient Kings (Icon)
@Null

BTNGunXSword (Icon)
@Sharkarsh

BTNHalberd (Icon)
@~Nightmare

BTNHellImp (Icon)
@Amargaard

BTNHellishUnsummon (Icon)
@Marcos DAB

BTNHeroCalia (Icon)
@Scias

BTNHeroKingTerenas (Icon)
@Scias

BTNHobbyHorseTier2 (Icon)
@I3lackDeath

BTNHoly (Icon)
@CreatorD3292

BTNHolyStrikeRemakeFix3 (Icon)
@AbstractCreativity

BTNHumanChurch (Icon)
@Public Resource Provider

BTNHumanStableOther (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNHumanWizard (Icon)
@Marcos DAB

BTNHumanZeppeline (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNIceFissure (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNINV_Misc_Dust_02 (Icon)
World of Warcraft

BTNINV_Misc_Milk_01 (Icon)
World of Warcraft

BTNItemGemAmethyst (Icon)
@General Frank

BTNItemGemDiamond (Icon)
@General Frank

BTNItemGemEmerald (Icon)
@General Frank

BTNItemGemRuby (Icon)
@General Frank

BTNItemGemSapphire (Icon)
@General Frank

BTNJewelofDarkness (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNJudgmentOn (Icon)
@Legal_Ease

BTNKing (Icon)
@KelThuzad

BTNKiteShield2 (Icon)
@morbent

BTNKiwi (Icon)
@kola

BTNKnightofBlazingSun (Icon)
@Wildfire

BTNLadyArmoredArcher (Icon)
@eubz

BTNLaguz (Icon)
@AlienAtSystem

BTNLancelotPlate (Icon)
@JollyD

BTNLemons (Icon)
@Blood Raven

BTNLightcross (Icon)
@Dene92

BTNLightforge (Icon)
@Null

BTNLyceum Arcana (Icon)
@Null

Btnm24 (Icon)
@oh_snap

BTNManaPotion (Icon)
@JesusHipster

BTNMarketplace (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNMedievalHelmet (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNMelon (Icon)
@maxor_gan

BTNMiasma (Icon)
@San

BTNMirroroftruth (Icon)
@bisnar13

BTNMonk (Icon)
@asdasdgfrw

BTNNecroMark (Icon)
@San

BTNNecroStronghold (Icon)
@HappyTauren

BTNNemesis (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNNightGuardianHelmet (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNNightmareSheep (Icon)
@Kuhneghetz

BTNNinja (Icon)
@antihero

BTNOrange (Icon)
@kola

BTNOrbofLight (Icon)
@NO-Bloody-Name

BTNOthala (Icon)
@AlienAtSystem

BTNPaladinTome (Icon)
@lllLSDlll

BTNPancakesNom (Icon)
@FrIkY

BTNPandaAura (Icon)
@chr2

BTNPandarenAmulet (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNPeasantWoman (Icon)
@Mr.Goblin

BTNPersecute (Icon)
@HappyCockroach

BTNPHolyBolt (Icon)
@Paladon

BTNPlatedGauntlet (Icon)
@NFWar

BTNPlatedGauntlet2 (Icon)
@NFWar

BTNPotion1 (Icon)
@Mr.Goblin

BTNPoTN_Pure_Dark_Potion (Icon)
@CRAZYRUSSIAN

BTNPShieldT1 (Icon)
@Paladon

BTNPShieldT2 (Icon)
@Paladon

BTNPShieldT3 (Icon)
@Paladon

BTNPShieldT4 (Icon)
@Paladon

BTNPurpleBottle2 (Icon)
@Static

BTNPurpleJewelFinal (Icon)
@~Nightmare

BTNRadar (Icon)
@SantoRayo[iP]

BTNRainBowKey (Icon)
Blizzard Entertainment

BTNRetriAura (Icon)
@morbent

BTNRiseOfFinalLord (Icon)
@JollyD

BTNRogue (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNRoyal (Icon)
@Mike

BTNRoyalOrbV2 (Icon)
@Mike

BTNRubiScepter (Icon)
@Marcos DAB

BTNRunestoneBattlestaff (Icon)
@Blood Raven

BTNRunestoneBreastplate (Icon)
@Blood Raven

BTNRunestoneShield (Icon)
@Blood Raven

BTNSanctifiedEnchantment (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNSanguineBow (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNSapphire (Icon)
@Golden-Drake

BTNScavengerDragon (Icon)
@skrab

BTNSH_Armor_Upgrade_F (Icon)
@CRAZYRUSSIAN

BTNSH_Armor_Upgrade_S (Icon)
@CRAZYRUSSIAN

BTNSH_Armor_Upgrade_T (Icon)
@CRAZYRUSSIAN

BTNShackle (Icon)
@KelThuzad

BTNShadowBow (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNSHorn (Icon)
@Heinvers

BTNShoulder (Icon)
@KelThuzad

BTNShoulderUPG2 (Icon)
@KelThuzad

BTNShoulderUPG3 (Icon)
@KelThuzad

BTNSkinRot (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNSorceryUpgrade1 (Icon)
@morbent

BTNSorceryUpgrade2 (Icon)
@morbent

BTNSorceryUpgrade3 (Icon)
@morbent

BTNSoulDischarge (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNSparkShower (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNSpell_Holy_SealOfMight (Icon)
Blizzard Entertainment

BTNSphere (Icon)
@inhuman89

BTNStarsTeal (Icon)
@FrIkY

BTNSteelPants1 (Icon)
@NFWar

BTNStormwindFootman (Icon)
@takakenji

BTNStrawberry (Icon)
@Brombie

BTNSummonDemon (Icon)
@Nealdros

BTNSunburst3 (Icon)
@Redeemer59

BTNSword (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNTemplarExemplar (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNTemplarJusticar (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNTheCorruptedAshbringer (Icon)
@Sunchips

BTNThunderLizard (Icon)
@darkdeathknight

BTNTicTac (Icon)
@NFWar

BTNTier1 (Icon)
@HappyTauren

BTNTier1Sword (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNTier2Sword (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNTier3Sword (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNTiwaz (Icon)
@AlienAtSystem

BTNTomePowerDevine (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNTomePowerFlame (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNTomePowerPoison (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNTomePowerWater (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNTowerGuard (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNToxicBeam (Icon)
@The Panda

BTNUltimateForce (Icon)
@PrinceYaser

BTNUnbroken2 (Icon)
@Sin'dorei300

BTNUniversity (Icon)
@Eagle XI

BTNVampireCombatant (Icon)
@Dionesiist

BTNVampireTracker (Icon)
@NFWar

BTNVikingHouse (Icon)
@olofmoleman

BTNVoodooDoll (Icon)
@Mr.Goblin

BTNWaterBattleHelmet (Icon)
@8512590215848

BTNWaterPearl (Icon)
@Marcos DAB

BTNWC1SpiderRemastered (Icon)
@Artork312

BTNWitch (Icon)
@Hanza-Ru

BTNWorgenHero (Icon)
@NFWar

BTNWraith2 (Icon)
@donut3.5

Bull and Cow (Model)
@Cavman

Burning Rage (Model)
@Vinz

Disarm (Model)
@Vinz

Malevolence Aura (1.32) (Model)
@Viun

Butcher (Model)
@Stefan.K

Calia Menethil (Model)
@kangyun

Camp (Model)
@Mike

Cannonball (Model)
@JesusHipster

Cannons (Model)
@paulH

Captain Falric (Model)
@Stefan.K

Captain Lordaeron HQ (Unit\Hero)
@Asssssvi

Cart (Model)
@Shardeth

Cart (Icon)
@Shardeth

Castle (Model)
@Mr. Bob

Chaos Graveyard (Model)
@MasterHaosis

Chaos Mill (Model)
@MasterHaosis

Chaos Pig Farm (Model)
@MasterHaosis

ChaosCitadel (Model)
@HappyTauren

Cheese (Model)
@D.O.G.

Chests of Pearls Blue + Black (Model)
@kellym0

Church (WC1)
@loktar

Circle Buffs (Model)
@AlienAtSystem

Cleric (WC1)
@loktar

Cold Buff (Model)
@dhguardianes

ColdTower (Model)
@Ergius

Conjuring Tower (WC1 Human Tower)
@loktar

CorruptedAshbringerNew (Model)
@Sunchips

Crate_of_Fruits (Model)
@eubz

CrimsonSkull and Black Order Assets, etc
@Rhapsodie

D&D Rogue (Model)
@HerrDave

Dagger (Icon)
@8512590215848

Dark Arrow (Icon)
@Sun gate

DarkElvenArchon (Model)
@Tranquil

Death Sword (Model)
@Blood Raven

Demon Armor Upgrade (Icon)
@Don Valentino

Demon Tower (Model)
@HappyTauren

Demoness (Model)
@Gottfrei

Demonic Gateway (Warlock Spell)
@Mister_Haudrauf

DemonTownhall (Model)
@pWn3d

Doom Lord
@Explobomb

Doom Tower (WC1 Orc Tower)
@oktar

Doom Weed (Icon)
@DarkePacific

Dragonlings (Yellow and Red) (Model)
@HappyTauren

Dwarven Towers
@Tamplier

Eldritch Covenant
@Vinz

Elemental Sword of Darkness (Model)
@owenfitz

Elite Naga Male Pack (Model)
@Tier10Trash

Ember Forge & Ember Knight
@Vinz

Emerald Stone (Icon)
@Vinz

Emperor Thaurissan
@HerrDave

Empty Orb (Onyx Orb) (Icon)
@Darkfang

Faceless & Unbroken Cultists (Model)
@Sin'dorei300

Factory (Model)
@HerrDave

Fire axe (Icon)
@lebedevvladi4ka

Fire High and Uber (Model)
@Pyritie

Fire Turret (Model)
@Tranquil

Five-Petal Flower (Icon)
@Ceterai

Footman Lordaeron HQ
@Asssssvi

Force Gates (Model)
@frostwhisper

Forge (WotR) (Model)
@HerrDave

Fountain Guard (Model)
@HerrDave

FountainofAyleidWater (Model)
@skrab

Free company militia (Model)
@Cuore

ShimmeringPortal and FrostArmorTarget (Models)
@JetFangInferno

Gear Aura (Model)
@iron_warrior

Gem - Amethyst (Model)
@General Frank

Gem - Diamond (Model)
@General Frank

Gem - Emerald (Model)
@General Frank

Gem - Ruby (Model)
@General Frank

Gem - Sapphire (Model)
@General Frank

Generators (Model)
@Tranquil

genie (Model)
@alfredx_sotn

Gilneas Buildings
@bakr

Gnomish Engineer (Model)
@Norinrad

Gold Mine and Derivatives
@Ujimasa Hojo

Great Elementals (Model)
@Himperion

Greater Wheel Angel (Model)
@biridius

Green and Mana Vortex Aura (Model)
@UgoUgo

Grey Knight Terminator (Model)
@Grey Knight

Guard Tower, Barracks, Town Hall (Models)
@Zaffar

Heaven's Gate (Model)
@Vinz

Hellstone Golem
@Villagerino

HeroGlow (Model)
@assasin_lord

High King of the Elves (Icon)
@Dito

High King of the Elves (Model)
@Direfury

Holy Shield Buff and Wing Attachment (Model)
@Lord_T

Holymagic_Projectile (Model)
@sPy

Houses (Model)
@Mike

HQ Captain Morgan
@Asssssvi

HQ Treasure Chest (Model)
@HammerFist132

Human Airship (Model)
@Bioautomaton

Human Barracks (Model)
@skrab

Human Bishop (Model)
@Tranquil

Human Garrison (Model)
@skrab

Human Lumber Mill (WC1)
@loktar

Human Shipyard (WC2)
@loktar

Human Wizard (Model)
@IamMclovin

Icons to Models Pack
@Kenathorn

Imp5 (Model)
@Ramza

Imperial Tower (Model)
@Kitabatake

Income and Prosperity (Icon)
@Darkfang

Judgement (Model)
@Vinz

Judgment Paladin (Icon)
@Murlocologist

Judgment Paladin (Model)
@Murlocologist

Juggernaught and Derivatives (Model)
@Ujimasa Hojo

Kil'jaeden (Icon)
@LordGandulfo88

King (Model)
@Tranquil

King Anduin Wrynn (Model)
@Stefan.K

King Terenas Menethil (Model)
@Stefan.K

King Varian Wrynn (Model)
@Stefan.K

Knight (Icon)
@Murlocologist

Knight (WC2) (Icon)
@loktar

Knight Kul-Tiras HD
@Asssssvi

Knight Lordaeron
@Asssssvi

Knight of the Blazing Sun (Model)
@HerrDave

Knight Pack (Model)
@Ilya Alaric

Kul Tiras Dreadnought
@Explobomb

Kultiras Buildings
@bakr

Legendary Warrior (With Helm) (Model)
@JoySoy

Legends of Arkain - GoldenGuard Icons (Icon)
@Rhapsodie

Liberty (Icon)
@EternalOne

Liberty (Model)
@Vinz

Lord Nemesis (Model)
@Direfury

Lordaeron Summer Doodads (Icon)
Blizzard Entertainment @𝓚𝓪𝓭𝓸𝓿𝓲𝓨𝓲ツ

Magic Circle/Pentagram (Model)
@The_Spellweaver

MagicShield (Model)
@JesusHipster

Malevolence Aura (1.32) (Model)
@Vinz

Malthael (Model)
@Grey Knight

Market (Model)
@Mr. Bob

Marketplace (Model)
@Mike

Monk (Model)
@Tranquil

Monument Of Honor / Altar of Honor (Model)
@Mister_Haudrauf

Moon Bowl (Model)
@Hexus

Mounted Bandit Spearthrower (Model)
@Wandering Soul

Mounted Royal Captain (Model)
@Tranquil

Naga Nazjatar Gate (Model)
@AndrewOverload519

Necromancer (Model)
@Ket

NEWell (Model)
@Sin'dorei300

Nightmare Sheep (Model)
@Kuhneghetz

Ninja (Model)
@Black_Stan

Old God Pack
@Explobomb

OldSchool Altar Of Storms (Model)
@Tamplier

Orb Generator (Icon)
@MyPad

Orb of Fire (Model)
@General Frank

Orb of Ice (Model)
@General Frank

Orb of Light (Model)
@General Frank

Orb of Water (Model)
@General Frank

Orc Aura (Model)
@s4nji

Paladin (Sword) (Model)
@Murlocologist

Panda Wukong (Model)
@BoatyMcBoatface300

PandarenBig (Model)
@Skipper

pandarenn (Models)
@Tarrasque

Imp5 (Models)
@C-Cow, @Ramza

RoyalGuard
@Tarrasque

RamvFinal
@Tarrasque

Pandarian Harvester
@Remixer

Pandarian Sanctuary (Advanced Research Center)
@Remixer

Pandarian Shelter
@Remixer

peasant (Model)
@Deathbringer

Peasant House (Model)
@MassiveMaster

Peasant Woman (Model)
@Cavman

PenguinKing
@Jaccouille

Pirate Battleship (Hexed) (Model)
@ViralHatred

Piercing Thrust, Psionic Shots, Firebrand Shots, Holy Light, Heal, Blink Vol. I
@Vinz

Starfall Empire
@Spellbound, @Vinz

Pirate Battleship (Hexed)
@Dreacon, @ViralHatred

Possessed Tome (Model)
@Deolrin

Prism Ray (3-Tiered) (Model)
@Cherrymage

Providence Aura (Model)
@Vinz

Questioner (Model)
@Heinvers @HerrDave

Ragnaros (Model)
@Murlocologist

Retribution (Model)
@Kuhneghetz

Righteous Guard (Model)
@Yours Truly

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If anyone wants to edit further, feel free to do so but please remark as your own version so my players will not be confused that it is one of my official versions.

CHANGE LOG:
SEE Kings and Knights Discord server, URL link in map description.
Contents

Kings & Knights α0.28.2 (Map)

Reviews
deepstrasz
Some heroes have the same abilities (like auras) which makes them useless together. Generally, normal Warcraft III spells and techtrees. Anime Witch has hero glow. It looks bad since heroes are supposed to have that. Also, usually models with hero...
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Ok I hope this isn't tl;dr but here are some of my thoughts on this:

That link you found is the template I used.

I wanted to contact them to see what their vision for the map was/is. However, I do not have permission because I have no idea how to contact those people. With that being said, the authors of e3.2 lack proper authority to authorize the use of this map - since they also plagiarized it from someone else.

For example EpicKiD's "Kings and Knights 1.5" (2009) has the exact same terrain and without a doubt Rolphoe and DjolePro01 plagarized from EpicKiD. Guntank01's "Kings and Knights Final" (2009) seems to be another candidate. Rolphoe and DjolePro01 wiped Guntank01's name from the map but they were sloppy because Guntank01 left notes in the quest triggers - evidence that e3.2 is plagiarized from Guntank01. Still Guntank01's iteration gives indication that his iteration is also plagarized. There are numerous other examples. There seems to be some common "ancestor" map that everyone seemed to plagiarize without citation but I am unable to make a definite determination. So it's unclear if it is even proper to credit Relphoe and DjolePro01. It seems they just took someone else's map and broke the balance and added exploits, which I reversed and removed any cheats/exploits. It's kind of a confusing mess on who deserves credit so I just tried to be as transparent as possible.

Still the iteration I posted has been dramatically overhauled from any other version with 100s of hours put into it, I would say about 99% of it is my work - 1200+ triggers, 100s of custom assets from Hive, the techtree, basic AI scripts implemented, other concepts imagined by players and implemented by myself. So I am comfortable listing myself as the author but I still give anyone else I know credit, even list original concept creator as "unknown" on the loading screen. Although it's not plagiarism, the concept dates back to brood war.

My intent was not to steal their credit nor ruin anyone's map. That's why I tried to be as transparent as possible. If I had ill intent, I would have hidden the fact that I used a template. I tried to credit everyone and create a fun and fair version of Kings and Knights.

With all that being said, I don't know how to make this situation right. The best I can do is explain the situation. I do not think banning my iteration would make the situation any better. If we go by date, it seems EpicKiD or Raffles is the rightful author but it's still unclear.

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deepstrasz

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Ok I hope this isn't tl;dr but here are some of my thoughts on this:
Alrighty, if your map is that much different, more akin to a remake than an edit, then crediting the people for the original idea is what you should do, otherwise, it would be a good idea to try contacting them, at least those that have an account here or somewhere (and provide evidence you tried).

Alright but can you show evidence you tried contacting them before you started or even uploaded the map? :D
 
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1) credit has been given on this map thread and the loading screen of this map.
2) it's not right to ask people who also stole the map if i can remake their already stolen map.
3) i messaged everyone who stole the map in hopes one of them is the original author:

1) Rolphoe - contacted July 13 2022, also plagiarized from GunTank01's version
2) DjolePro01 - unable to contact, no Hive account, also plagiarized GunTank01's version
3) Raffles - unable to contact, no Hive account (one of the earliest found authors)
4) GunTank01 / GunTank02 - unable to contact, no Hive account, evidence that it was plagiarized from Terrelle.Pryor's iteration
5) EpicKiDd / EpicKiDd - contacted July 13 2022, also plagiarized from other iteration, posted on Hive, no proper credit given
6) GoDFaTHER - contacted July 13 2022, also plagiarized from other iteration
7) Terrelle.Pryor - unable to contact, no Hive account
8) MOTH-Destroyer - unable to contact, no Hive account (one of the earliest found authors)
9) iou2game - unable to contact, no Hive account
10) kulos1994 - unable to contact, no Hive account
11) Ravel - unable to contact, no Hive account
12) Tree - contacted July 13, 2022
13) Emovampire - unable to contact, no Hive account
14) NoName - contacted July 13, 2022
15) Seurimas - contacted July 13, 2022
16) Nets8 - unable to contact, no Hive account
17) lerriuqSterceS - unable to contact, no Hive account

i don't mean to be argumentative but i feel like you are not understanding what i'm trying to say. please re-read my previous posts. i'll try to explain it a third time:

1) to answer your question no, because i wasn't sure how to contact them.
2) i don't understand why it matters so much that i contacted "them" because they also stole the map, which has been explained in detail in the previous posts. So I really don't understand why it matters so much. Yes if I could contact the original author to seek his permission it'd be great but i have no idea who that is.

just delete the map at this point, i'm beyond caring about if it's on here or not. Hive's loss.
 

deepstrasz

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Some heroes have the same abilities (like auras) which makes them useless together.
Generally, normal Warcraft III spells and techtrees.
Anime Witch has hero glow. It looks bad since heroes are supposed to have that. Also, usually models with hero glow don't have decay animations and their bodies remain on the ground.

Generally seems like a nice multiplayer map but pretty chaotic in design.

Approved.
 

deepstrasz

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I'm still polishing some of that.
One thing you might want to consider for future updates is diversifying the king armies so they won't be too similar. You could play some altered melee maps and get some ideas. However, I understand the mirror aspect is a balance safety measure but knights are not the same.
 
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Sorry to players: some players are reporting game crashes in this version. I haven't received detailed info. Unfortunately I am too busy IRL to debug or even verify if the crash reports are true. If true, IDK if it's related to 1.33 or some mistake we made earlier, which was lurking in some trigger. If anyone has found any problems like this or wants earlier versions to test, please let me know. Thanks everyone and sorry if you experience a crash.

Update: I just played a game on battle.net with about 7 players and there were no fatal errors, one person d/c'd but that might have been his individual internet problem.

Update 2: late version of the map seem stable and not causing crashes.
 
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A good remake of the original map, but here are some of my main concerns:
1. When I played, someone was able to get to level 38 at 15 minutes while the rest were level 10-14 and he just killed everyone without saying how. I'm not sure if it's some form of meta in the game, but it seems way imbalanced
2. The range of battleships reach the castle, which is a huge issue. You could be attacked from sea while dealing with another player and before you know, you were killed off the game, so might wanna reduce their range
3. Some heroes share the same ability, there needs to be a uniqueness of abilities on heroes, so in my opinion, maybe spice it up a bit
4. Invul putions need a huge nerf, 7 and 25 seconds of invulnerability is enough to kill 3 knights or even a castle
5. The god of destruction, I'm not sure what his use is aside from killing off middle, but other than that, he has no use since his stats and speed doesn't do anything later in the game
6. Also, tried to ask the people who usually play this map, only response I got were git gud or none at all, doesn't seem like a friendly community, so it's up to the new players how to fend for themselves, this is how you scare off new players from playing this map
 
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A good remake of the original map, but here are some of my main concerns:
Thank you for sharing and taking the time to give me some feedback. The map is still being updated. Your continued feedback would be helpful in Discord: Join the Kings and Knights Discord Server!

tl;dr your review is valid overall but we are working on it.
  • You predicted the future with points 1, 2, 4 - addressed in recent updates (xp tomes, ship range, invul pots).
  • 3 is a totally valid point. but this is pretty much the best I can do without more specific guidance from players.
  • god of destruction is supposed to be more just a fun thing and not really a viable strategy. worried if it was any stronger then the best strategy would simply be the first to summon it wins.
  • Point 6 is also a concern of mine. My main goal is to be welcoming to new players and build the player base. Although I cannot moderate the behavior of players in every lobby, we do have a moderated discord with basic guides and a lot of players including my self are willing to help. Still - I am aware of some players thrashing noobs and have messaged a few specific players about this. Some players have become perhaps a bit too competitive since the leaderboard has been implemented (https://wc3stats.com/kings-and-knights/leaderboard) but I tell them to label the lobbies accordingly if they want a competitive game. On the other hand, they discover some broken mechanics that can help balance the map in the long run.
 
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