Jackal

[GhostThruster]

Just need some feedback on this (hope the link works).

1. Is it approvable?

2. If not, why?

3. If you answered no. 2, how?

texture still needs work and leg is bent in attack anim. Also, there are a lot of unused bones that you could remove to cut down on filespace

My model got rejected because of the texture and the legs in the attack anim, so if you could especially suggest how to fix that, it would be good.

 

[Total_Warrior]

The model is passable, the texture definitely needs more work, the head should be redone, judging from the pictures provided it's not right, it should look more dinosaurish. That's what I think, I hope you can make it better, good luck.

 

[-Grendel]

1.) the metal should be more bluish not totally gray
2.)his skintone should be lighter not pure brown

you should attach that metal thing on his head and those spines on his arms and head by geomerging.

that's all

don't know how to fix the legs though

 

[GhostThruster]

Yeah, I only use Magos and MdlVis, that's why it looks like... a piece of shit.

Btw, I wasn't trying to achieve an exact replica.

 

[ArneXis]

God damn it I have jackals, annoying shield bastards .

 

[-Grendel]

i'm not saying to achieve the exact replica of the Jackal, i am saying to make it look closer as the pic above my post.

 

[-Peper-]

For the texture, make a detailish skin.
And the attachment point? Who gonna rotate it?
For the leg, you can ask a pro animator.

 

[GhostThruster]

@Ampharos: I wasn't saying it to you directly, just notifying everyone.

@-Peper-:
1. Dude, that doesn't really help...
2. Those weapons you rotated for me fit the Jackal, so don't worry.
3. I can do them myself, but I'm lazy and like I said, I don't want an exact replica.

 

[-Grendel]

cool, and i'll be waiting for the improved version

 

[GhostThruster]

Actually, I don't think I can ever fix the leg... The Headhunter, which it's based on, has crap vertices around it, making it flat and bent.

 

[-Grendel]

well why not just work on the texture and the head and just leave the headhunter's leg as it is?

 

[-Peper-]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's the problem, bad model edited = equally bad model. Not your fault.

 

[GhostThruster]

That's what I told the mod, but he won't listen to me or offer much advice.

 

[-Peper-]

The solution is to alter the model (that means alter the whole universe)
Example he is flying using jetpack, no need to animate his legs.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

I thought it was obvious. just use the satyr as a base, he has the right legs and leg animations for the jackal.

And no, the headhunter legs do not normally look like that.

 

[-Peper-]

Oh yeah btw the head is messy and unidentifiable.

 

[GhostThruster]

EDIT: I already have an edited Satyr. Check my Elite model. I don't want to copy the same thing. That leg is exactly the same on the Headhunter, it is just fatter. Look, a vertex edit:

 

[-Grendel]

you can always edit the head, death sound and arms of the satyr so that it won't look so the same to your elite

 

[GhostThruster]

This isn't about me creating a new model, I just want to know how I can fix up the Jackal. Of course, I can retexture, re-animate and re-shape the Satyr, but my purpose here is to ask for help on the Jackal.

 

[-Grendel]

well then if that's the case good luck

 

[DwarfZealot]

man, for one thing you're taking advice VERY badly, I get a sense that you're protective over this model. This model just isn't that great man, there isn't much you can do to improve it because it's based off the wrong model, and for some reason you seem to be avoiding fixing the poor skin. Even if you did fix the skin just the general shape of the model is wrong for a jackal completely. "I'm not trying to make an exact replica" is just a lame excuse, of course you're trying to make an exact replica. Why else would you make halo models? You love halo therefore you're trying to make models from it, if you don't want to make exact replicas then make your own unique and creative models! But as far as this model goes, it's really nothing special, and you aren't really taking the advice at hand, no wonder it didn't get aproved. If you want to improve, you should take the constructive advice people give you and keep working.

 

[GhostThruster]

1. You're giving advice VERY badly. Below is why;
2. Tell me, what constructive advice have I been given? Here are the posts that actually help:
though he didn't tell me how I should fix it
this comment was very good.
The rest, alongside with yours, have been no help at all. Even anarchianbedlam only told me to make a Satyr.
3. I know that, I didn't say it was great. I can't fix the skin with comments like 'more detailish'.
4. No, it isn't a lame excuse. It's the truth. Nobody notices/cares about a bent leg ingame, in Wc3!
5. I make models for fun. Why do you go to random people's thread, then criticize them without helping or making a valid point?
6. If you can't post constructive comments, don't post at all.
7. I know it is not special, and as said, I have had barely any advice, and none from you. Now you are insulting my model, which I admit is below decent, though this does not give you the right to say 'no wonder it didn't get aproved'.
8. If you want to post, make sure you post properly.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Ghost. take a deep breath. itl be ok, caaaalllmmmm...

we told you what needed to be changed, but we didnt tell you "how". We assumed that you would read tutorials or find out for yourself. I'm sorry I cant hold your hand all the way in telling you how to make the legs and the face and the texture look decent. I'm just lazy like that. But with a little elbow grease and ingenuity, im sure you can figure it out. I didnt learn how to make models overnight, it took months of dicking around in magos and warforger and milkshape trying out all the buttons and different settings to figure out how best to create something.

My advice, is to get warforger, magos v1.07 and notetab light (or just regular windows notepad) and start learning to to directly move around bones and animation keyframes in .MDL text format.

warforger

Magos v1.07

NoteTab light

and if you're feeling lucky and have some spare change from your christmas money, try
Milkshape

Those are the programs i've used, and that is how i taught myself to model. HOPE THAT WAS HELPFUL BRRROOOOOOO. and happy holidays

 

[GhostThruster]

Actually, the only people that told me what needed to be changed are Total_Warrior and Ampharos (and you told me in the model page). The other posts were either spam (refer to post 5 and 21) or not helpful (refer to post 7 and 15).
For the texture, I don't need to know how obviously, but for the model, I do and must.
Thanks for the advice, I will have a look at Warforger.