Heroes of Newerth

[tml616]

So it looks like this site will have some areas for the Galaxy Editor in SC2. As most DotA players know, Heroes of Newerth will have a map editor released with it. Wondering if Hive is going to have any forums for it.

 

[Pharaoh_]

If they really do have an editor, I support this. Their engine is spectacular, as far as I can see through their uploaded videos.
It supports what most well-known RPG of this generation have.
I mean this site should not be dedicated to Blizzard only. I don't know if it can support a multi-dimensional storage though.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

It does have an editor, but I doubt we will have any forums dedicated to HoN.

 

[Tleno]

Well THW is dedicated to WC3, it only got to SC2 because its like a sequel of WC3 modding.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

DotA is a WC3 map, HoN isn't.

Period.

 

[dead-man-walking]

I think the concept of "Hive Doesn't Support Rip-Offs" should be applied against HoN.

 

[SwampRaider]

Heroes of Newerth is not really a rip off. The game goes well with the Savage 1 and 2 lore, and they have been planning the project for over 3 years. s2 games K2 Engine is just superb!


After playing HoN for awhile...It really is hard for me to even play DotA. The Engine is just so beautiful.

 

[Tleno]

Riiight... See, its not an RTS plus I really doubt modding it will be as popular as modding Source or Unreal 3 graphical engine games or Warcraft 3.

 

[Pharaoh_]

SwampRaider, of course it's a rip of DotA. They have Pudge with every skill of his for crying out loud. If you look at the heroes and check out their spells, you will realize what equivalent hero of DotA they are. They have creeps and lanes, just like DotA; even the UI looks alike and they have been planning this for three years? Sorry, I don't believe that. Just because it is beautiful (and I totally agree), it doesn't mean it's original. It's a higher definition DotA; that's it.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Technically, it's not a rip-off, but a remake with better technology, and conveniently adapted to the Savage universe. They had IceFrog's consent to use DotA heroes, items and environment.

I doubt the HoN Editor will be anything compared to WE and GE though, so incorporating a HoN modding board into this forum seems a couple steps too far.

 

[Ralle]

I think it sounds like a good idea.

 

[Pharaoh_]

I think it sounds like a good idea.

I must say.. I'm surprised by your reaction. I was 100% sure that you wouldn't approve of this. It doesn't look like your taste.

 

[SwampRaider]

I think it sounds like a good idea.

wow!

That sounds like some cool news right there. The k2 Engine is an amazing thing to work with, and it has great potential since it supports both RTS and FPS gaming.

on the HoN boards, they already have people pumping out awesome custom models. and they listen to peoples hero and item suggestions.


Did you know it costs them about 30,000 dollars to make 1 hero? (really think about it, its more complicated than it seems..wages,insurance and all that jazz is included in the cost)

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

I think it sounds like a good idea.

I agree. Hating on DotA and its successors is a bit silly nowadays.

 

[Septimus]

HoN > DotA > AoS

Guess the origin.

 

[Tleno]

I think it sounds like a good idea.

I hope its sarcasm. We should firstly see what kind of game and how popular it will be, only then think about letting it in. Also we could make a pool if Ralle wwants to be so democratic.

 

[Viikuna]

They just stole those ideas directly from DotA.

And then again, Guinsoo and IceFrog also stole those same ideas from other maps, and you cant really know where those maps got them so...

In the end you cant really accuse people from stealing ideas, because you cant exactly know where they originally came from.

 

[Ralle]

Well if it is going to be a very popular modding platform I don't see why not. One could say that Warcraft is a RTS, Age of Empires is a RTS, then Warcraft is a ripoff of Age of Empires.
If AON is really going to be a big thing I don't see why not. But I am not going to play nor mod it so we would need a very active person to control that area of the site if we were to add that area. But all this is for THW2.0 which I am working on. I will make it easier to expand the site.

 

[Vengeancekael]

They just stole those ideas directly from DotA.

Just so you know, they asked Icefrog and he said it's a good idea, i mean why shouldn't they remake dota with better technology and an editor+ reconnect options etc.

 

[baassee]

correct me if I'm wrong but didnt Icefrog get his own team from S2 Games?

 

[Linaze]

HoN > DotA > AoS

Guess the origin.

Lol > HoN = DotA > AoS

 

[Tleno]

Rip-offs are good too if they are well-made. You know nobody yells at cook who makes only one kind of dish if that dish is made very well...
Well okay, maybe we could add the HoN to our supported games, but if it will be popular and most of people agree with the idea (you can just make a poll to decide). Also I'm curious if WC, SC and HoN will be the only supported games then or maybe we'll add other games that will be good enough too or (Probably in far-far-away future) it will become a modders Facebook that will support lots of games?

 

[Svenski]

IMHO, if we're all artists and scripters and modders that like to be creative here on the hive - and if the HoN editor is even comparable (dare I say, an improvement) to the WE as a medium for all of our creativity, then adding a HoN section to this website would be nothing but beneficial.

Elsewise I might just have to move to another website that does support HoN editor discussion. But this is all speculation at this point anyway...

 

[foo_sharp]

I personally dislike Heroes of Newerth (prefer League of Legends), but if the editor is good and enough people here are using it I don't see a reason why not to create a sub-forum for it.

 

[Kingz]

League of legends beats the hell out of HoN.

No offense i bow down to the graphic's in HoN but seriously?
Is there anything new in HoN that isn't in Dota already?

Lol at least tries to implement new things and is great in it, we get 1 new champ per week, every champ has a unique play style, the support for newbies is awesome due to tips for every champ and recommended items and the shop in LoL is far more organized and clear than in HoN.

Lol just released a new playable map also and is intended to have 12 maps for play in the future.

Im getting offtopic here...

Anyway im indifferent about this, since i don't like HoN but if LoL gets an editor i hope it will have a place on this site.

 

[Edhel-dur]

League of legends beats the hell out of HoN.

No offense i bow down to the graphic's in HoN but seriously?
Is there anything new in HoN that isn't in Dota already?

Lol at least tries to implement new things and is great in it, we get 1 new champ per week, every champ has a unique play style, the support for newbies is awesome due to tips for every champ and recommended items and the shop in LoL is far more organized and clear than in HoN.

Lol just released a new playable map also and is intended to have 12 maps for play in the future.

Im getting offtopic here...

Anyway im indifferent about this, since i don't like HoN but if LoL gets an editor i hope it will have a place on this site.

I don't play LOL but I do play HoN.
And I agree that the interface seems overly complicated for no reason.
From the moment you log, to checking your friend list, to joining and starting a game. I mean seriously, the interface is really messy.

And yeah there are items and heroes which are in HoN but not in DotA.

Although the graphics are good, the software itself is really buggy. A lot of people just get errors which are really annoying, because you can be in a major battle or something important and than "K2 error", HoN has closed.
The good thing though is that you can re-connect to the game, although you previously disconected.

 

[zadelim]

I don't play LOL but I do play HoN.
And I agree that the interface seems overly complicated for no reason.
From the moment you log, to checking your friend list, to joining and starting a game. I mean seriously, the interface is really messy.

And yeah there are items and heroes which are in HoN but not in DotA.

Although the graphics are good, the software itself is really buggy. A lot of people just get errors which are really annoying, because you can be in a major battle or something important and than "K2 error", HoN has closed.
The good thing though is that you can re-connect to the game, although you previously disconected.

I agree with it! The interface not very nice now. It just hard to see where is the button at. The errors are pissed me off the games every times. That was annoying. I think they has some good points in HoN to be created. There has some functions Warcraft didn't have. Nothing bad with HoN.

 

[LordDz]

correct me if I'm wrong but didnt Icefrog get his own team from S2 Games?

I think it was valve.

 

[I-am-murloc]

Im really looking forward to getting to work with a new editor and a new engine. I dont like Sci-fi so Im prob not gonna mod SC2 but HoN is an awesome game and also it's fantasy so \o/

 

[Kingz]

The good thing though is that you can re-connect to the game, although you previously disconected.

You can do that in LoL also...

Anyway "Dota the Game" is gonna be made with Icefrog in that team so that should be the best AoS game.

 

[baassee]

isnt Icefrog already inside the HON team?

 

[Firelord213]

I approve, HoN is aesom.

 

[NhazUl]

HoN has nothing to do with Warcraft and Blizzard's games whatsoever. C'mon.

 

[Tleno]

HoN has nothing to do with Warcraft and Blizzard's games whatsoever. C'mon.

Agree.

 

[Vengeancekael]

isnt Icefrog already inside the HON team?

Nope, they just wanted his confirmation. He's in a small group from valve now, creating something better than dota.

In October 2009, Icefrog was hired by Valve Corporation, leading a team in a project that he has described as "great news for DotA fans".

 

[baassee]

OH sry thought s2 games was a small part of valve

 

[Acutesharpness]

Well peeps, the HoN Open Beta is here, click it out =)
Link: HoN Open Beta

 

[Septimus]

HoN has nothing to do with Warcraft and Blizzard's games whatsoever. C'mon.

definitely agree about it, unless some1 can give better reason for it.

 

[Statharas]

Technically, it's not a rip-off, but a remake with better technology, and conveniently adapted to the Savage universe. They had IceFrog's consent to use DotA heroes, items and environment.

I doubt the HoN Editor will be anything compared to WE and GE though, so incorporating a HoN modding board into this forum seems a couple steps too far.

Yeah, ./offtopic, Pudge is a ripoff. DotA is a ripoff. GTFO ICEFROG! Anyway, i wouldn't support an RPG game with an editor for the hive. I just don't feel like it would be a good idea. I feel that Icefrog is gonna remake his map in HoN...