[General] help on attack speed

[paleto123]

i know the max attack speed is around 400%-500% but how do those anime games like bleach vs naruto or onepiece get past that limit? anyone knows what they did?

 

[Maker]

They might not have gotten past that limit. Perhaps they just reduced the attack cooldown in object editor.

 

[paleto123]

perhaps, i kinda tried that theory. never looked if their damage are ahead before striking.

 

[UndeadImmortal]

It depends on Combat - Attack - Animation Damage Point of the unit.
Here's a priest with maximum attack speed and 0.000 Animation Damage Point.

 

[DivineLight]

i know the max attack speed is around 400%-500% but how do those anime games like bleach vs naruto or onepiece get past that limit? anyone knows what they did?

there is two possible reason (maybe more)
1. their animation speed is increased via trigger
2. their attack speed use negative value

 

[Spartipilo]

To go above 400% you would have to deal triggered damage, or create a dummy to attack the same target after you.

 

[Vinz]

Yes, trigger damage, then repeatedly play attack anim.

 

[Spartipilo]

Offtopic:

It would be awesome to have an ability that creates shadows of yourself with a small delay, so that when you move or attack or do anything, they would follow the same action making the illussion of multiple attacks :O I know there's a system for the shades

 

[Dr Super Good]

As far as I am aware you cannot pass +400% and -80%, both represent you dealing 500% damage and 20% damage.

There is also a hard limit on number of attacks per second unless you set attack cooldown to 0 and animation to 0 which breaks the game (causes infinite frame drop until target is dead). I think it was something like 8 attacks per second.

 

[Ezekiel12]

As far as I am aware you cannot pass +400% and -80%, both represent you dealing 500% damage and 20% damage.

There is also a hard limit on number of attacks per second unless you set attack cooldown to 0 and animation to 0 which breaks the game (causes infinite frame drop until target is dead). I think it was something like 8 attacks per second.

The first part is true, however in the current version there is no framedrop when setting damage point and attack cooldown to 0.

The hardcoded number of attacks per second is capped at ~45.45. With clever use of orb of lightning you can get the double of ~91 attacks per second.

 

[DivineLight]

As far as I am aware you cannot pass +400% and -80%, both represent you dealing 500% damage and 20% damage.

There is also a hard limit on number of attacks per second unless you set attack cooldown to 0 and animation to 0 which breaks the game (causes infinite frame drop until target is dead). I think it was something like 8 attacks per second.

i did try it.. my unit didn't use any animation until the target is dead :\

Offtopic:

It would be awesome to have an ability that creates shadows of yourself with a small delay, so that when you move or attack or do anything, they would follow the same action making the illussion of multiple attacks :O I know there's a system for the shades

yes, i have seen map with something like that..

 

[Kino]

As far as I am aware you cannot pass +400% and -80%, both represent you dealing 500% damage and 20% damage.

This.
You can set attack speed bonuses of abilties to things like 1000% etc. However the real attack speed bonus given to the unit will never exceed 400%.

Also just because you can type 1000% attack speed into the tooltip doesnt actually mean the ability works as described.

 

[Maker]

Offtopic:

It would be awesome to have an ability that creates shadows of yourself with a small delay, so that when you move or attack or do anything, they would follow the same action making the illussion of multiple attacks :O I know there's a system for the shades

You could combine these:
https://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/spells-569/shadow-trail-system-v1-1-1-7-a-230421/
https://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/spells-569/lightning-speed-laceration-1-09-a-178653/