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Haunted Valley

Submitted by ometotchtli
This bundle is marked as approved. It works and satisfies the submission rules.
Haunted Valley - a Secret Valley Overhaul -


1. Overview

Mapdiscription:

Only recently, there is a story told in the taverns about a haunted, flooded valley where toxic waters and creatures can become the grave of the incautious.

Creator's Note:
I always loved to see SV played and only recently people started to mention the map and suggesting it. Following the balancediscussion I decided to give it a try.

2. Creeps

  • 2x Level 7 Green Camp - 1xMurloc Flesheater (Random Level 2 Powerup), 1xMurloc Plaguebearer, 1xMurloc Huntsman
  • 2x Level 9 Green Camp - 1x M. Flesheater (Random Level 2 Permanent), 1xMur'gul Blood-Gill, 1xMur'gul Cliffrunner, 1xMur'gul Tidewarrior
  • 2x Level 5 Green Camp - 1xLightning Lizard, 1xFel Beast (Random Level 1 Powerup)
  • 2x Level 6 Green Camp - 1xFel Beast (Random Level 1 Permanent), 1xPoison Treant

  • 2x Level 17 Orange Camp - 1xRevenant of the Seas (Random Level 3 Charged), 2xFel Beast, 2xForest Troll Trapper @ Goblin Merchants
  • 2x Level 16 Orange Camp - 1xFurbolg Tracker (Random Level 3 Permanent), 1xFurbolg, 3xMurloc Huntsman @ Natural Goldmines
  • 2x Level 12 Camp - 1xMurloc Mutant (Random Level 3 Charged), 1xLightning Lizard(Random Level 1 Power Up), 1xDark Troll Trapper, 1xCorrupted Treant @ Goblin Laboratorys
  • 2x Level 10 Orange Camp - 1xSludge Monstrosity(Random Level 2 Permanent), 1xSpitting Spider(Random Level 1 Power up), 2xSpider @ Mercenary Camp

  • 2x Level 26 Red Camp - 1xSatyr Hellcaller(Random Level 4 Charged), 1xSatyr Shadowdancer(Random Level 2 Power Up), 1xSatyr Soulstealer, 3xFel Beast @ Goldmines
  • 2x Level 25 Red Camp - 1xDoom Guard(Random Level 5 Permanent), 1xInfernal Machine(Random Level 2 Permanent), 1xPoison Treant, 2xGiant Skeleton Warrior



Version 1.1

Updated the Creepcamps
Contents

Haunted Valley (Map)

Haunted Valley (Map)

Haunted Valley (Map)

Reviews
mafe
Ok, a nice variation of Secret Valley. It looks quite good in the new tileset actually. There is a minor bug with the ramps at the lategame expansion: The ramp-cliff transition are not smooth, comparable to this screenshot: [ATTACH] Regarding...
  1. mafe

    mafe

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    Ok, a nice variation of Secret Valley. It looks quite good in the new tileset actually.

    There is a minor bug with the ramps at the lategame expansion: The ramp-cliff transition are not smooth, comparable to this screenshot:
    BadRamps.png

    Regarding gameplay, there are several details which I think have room for improvement:
    -Creeps with disease cloud are just a bad idea. Undeads are immuns, while every other race takes 120 damage on each unit that touches this creep.
    -Generally very few medium armored creeps. This should make creeping with melee units slower than on other maps. Unfortunately, there is a general lack of medium armored creeps on many tilesets, including Felwood.
    -The placement of doodads makes it easier to AoW-creep the merc camp in the southwest than in the northeast.
    -In the north, the murloc flesheater between the highground expansion and the main base has a 50% chance to drop a lvl 2 item, while his equivalent in the south has a 100% chance for a lvl 1 item? A similar situation happens at the expansions.
    -I don't recall SV being an easy map to expand on, and these creeps look even harder then the original. At least the opponent doesnt have a fountain to heal here.
    -At the creepcamp in front of the base, why does the lvl 3 felhound drop the item instead of the lvl 4 furbolg?
    -Not really an issue, but with a Felwood map, you could use dark trolls instead of forest trolls.
    -I'm convinced the Felwood merc camp is imbalanced (discussion in the guide in my signature). To keep with the theme of the map, outland mercs might be a better choice, but unless either mercs are really playtested in 1v1s, it is mostly theorycraft.

    Other than that, the creeps and items look good.

    Most of this is debatable anyway. I hope that you will fix the ramps and the flesheater drops as the only "objective" mistakes. Of course, feel free to consider the other stuff too. Given the general quality of the map otherwise, and the fact that I believe you are likely to make these updates anyways (or explain why you dont want to), it would be excessive to insist on an update. Therefore map approved.
     
  2. ometotchtli

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    Thanks for you feedback and the pointed out stuff!

    Corrected/fixed/kept them for this reasons/this way:

    1. Creeps with the disease cloud

    - Ill keep them since its a Camp far away and only little important + in the later stages the camp is not that hard to creep (kill the disease guy first, keep melee away)

    2. very few medium armored creeps

    - tested it and u can easily creep alot of camps with BM/FS + grunts and with militia/foots + dk/dl ghuls

    3. different drop % at some creepcamps

    - fixed that!

    4. easier creeping with AOW at northern spawn

    - fixed that!

    5. neutral expansion spots too hard

    - tested it, the camp is relatively easy to creep, combined HP of all creeps = below 2500 + no bloodlust or alot of dmg

    6. forest trolls/dark trolls

    - replaced them, nice suggestion!

    7. used the merc camp anyways (im aware of the manaburn thingy)

    - 350 huge investment, easy to kill that creep / makes nice addition in ud mirror probably

    8. minor bug with the ramps at the lategame expansion

    - fixed it for the upper one, no idea how to fix/if there even is a a visual bug down at the choke