Guild Wars: uh oh

[Rispetto]

So here's a very quick breakdown of the siteeation here boys:

> Work at Walmart electronics,
> See GW2 shipment came in, crapped pants (thought it wasnt out for another month wasnt really following it)
> Did not see a dated sticker. A dated sticker on the box means we cannot sell the product until ______ date. However we're only human so sometimes people forget to put them on.
> Scanned it through the till. When a product is dated and we attempt to scan it, it's SUPPOSED to say "cannot sell item" blah blah and we cannot complete the transaction.
> NONE of this happened
> Bought a copy
> Next day co-worker says it doesnt come out until 28th, but website says some shit about pre-purchasing (cant click their link for more info its a 404) and cant find any other sites with any DETAILED information but from the looks of things it is a pre-order situation (our store DOESNT do pre-orders).

Did I fuck up? Our store could get sued and lose its license to sell games if I sold (or bought, in this situation) a game pre-release.

 

[Lordkoon]

How about asking your store manager who probably ordered the game copies so you can make it clear are you supposed to be selling them for preorder purposes. Or call the provider of those copies. Return your copy of the game, return the reciet and pay the VAT for it. Should be no problem.

 

[Rispetto]

How about asking your store manager who probably ordered the game copies so you can make it clear are you supposed to be selling them for preorder purposes. Or call the provider of those copies. Return your copy of the game, return the reciet and pay the VAT for it. Should be no problem.

Tried that.

SWAS (store within a store) leader had no idea wtf I was talking about. Shes like if I get an email saying we're in shit, you're in shit.. basically.

Can't return the game. Already mentioned that she said it'd be too late and we dont accept open games anyways.

And it's the eletronics buyer who purchased the copies. If you knew the Walmart setup you would be just as sceptical of actually asking management anything to do technology because 99.998% of them are clueless and that 0.002% guy lives in Alaska somewhere.

Calling the Gw2 team isnt a bad idea. I'll look into it. Thanks for the idea.

 

[rulerofiron99]

There's the official launch, and then there's early access. Early access started about a day ago, thousands playing already.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Who the hell cares about Guild Wars 2 when there is Diablo III!

Anyway, as above poster stated, they obviously want it sold early for early access. Phone up the developer's help desk if you are unsure and ask although as your boss has said it is fine it is fine.

Work at Walmart electronics,

If you really do work for Walmart then it is impossible to make a mistake which will...

Our store could get sued and lose its license to sell games if I sold (or bought, in this situation) a game pre-release.

Since walmart is one of the largest retailers in the world, no company in their right mind would black list them as a buyer.

Also if release dates were important they would do what Blizzard did for Diablo III and only turn on game servers when the game is released.

 

[Skycraft]

By using '>' instead of creating an enjoyable and readable story, this thread makes me quite disappointed.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Also if release dates were important they would do what Blizzard did for Diablo III and only turn on game servers when the game is released.

Then what about the headstart?

 

[Dr Super Good]

Then what about the headstart?

The people who stay up until midnight to buy the game have an entire 18 hours head start over people who have to work or attend education.

 

[Rispetto]

Since walmart is one of the largest retailers in the world, no company in their right mind would black list them as a buyer.

Not the company, our specific store.
And this is the response I got to my ticket:

Response GM Serendipity via Email 27/08/2012 06:30 AM
Hey there!

Thanks for contacting the Guild Wars Support Team. You are receiving this message because you mentioned receiving Error 9 in the subject of your petition.

You received this error code (9:4:5:1093:101) because the account you were using to log in does not currently have access to Guild Wars 2. There are four possible reasons for this:

1) Your account may not have access to the game yet. Guild Wars 2 will officially launch on Tuesday, August 28th. Headstart access began on Saturday, August 25th for players who pre-purchased, and pre-order headstart began at 00:00 PDT Monday, August 27th.

2) You purchased the retail box version of the game before launch, without having pre-purchased or pre-ordered, and therefore your account will not have access until August 28th when the game officially launches.

3) You received the game early and registered your retail code separately rather than adding it to your existing account and are using the wrong account name to login.

4) The fourth possibility is that you were a participant in a previous beta test, and you were mistakenly logging in to the account you made for that beta instead of logging in your pre-purchase account. Please make sure that you follow these login instructions precisely:

If you already play Guild Wars, and you linked Guild Wars 2 to your account, then you must log in to Guild Wars 2 and the forums using the exact same account information that you use to play Guild Wars.

- Example 1: Email or Account Name: myaccount@ncsoft Password: myGuildWarsPW
- Example 2: Email or Account Name: [email protected] Password: myGuildWarsPW

If you did not link Guild Wars 2 to an existing Guild Wars account, then you must log in with the email address and password that you provided during registration.

- Example: Email or Account Name: [email protected] Password: myGuildWars2PW

5) If you are confident that none of these situations applies to you, or if you are simply unsure if you are using the proper login due to registering your retail code separately, then please reply to this issue with the following information:

- Your Guild Wars 2 Account Name/Email you are trying to login with:
- Your Guild Wars 2 Serial Code (pre-purchase or pre-order and retail if applicable):
- Your Guild Wars 2 Display Name (ex: MyName.1234):
- Your Guild Wars 1 Account Name/Email (if you have one):

You can get all the latest news by watching the main site http://www.guildwars2.com/ , the blog http://www.arena.net/blog/ , our Twitter http://twitter.com/#!/guildwars2 , and our Facebook https://www.facebook.com/GuildWars2

Thank you,
GM Serendipity
Guild Wars Support Team
http://support.guildwars2.com/

Seems I fall under category 2..

 

[Dr Super Good]

What a rip... This is why Diablo III is far superiour to Guild Wars.

 

[rulerofiron99]

What a rip... This is why Diablo III is far superiour to Guild Wars.

dudewat

GW2 is an MMO with a focus on massive PvP and PvE events, and Diablo III is a single-player game that requires Blizzard's servers to be online. You can't really compare the two.

^ A little gem I found while looking up some numbers of GW2 vs D3

 

[Dr Super Good]

Diablo III is a single-player game that requires Blizzard's servers to be online

Which is strange as I almost exclusivly play it multiplayer like 100,000s of other people.

 

[Rispetto]

Which is strange as I almost exclusivly play it multiplayer like 100,000s of other people.

Stop being such a diehard fanboy.
In terms of price <-> content, what you get, Gw2 blows Diablo so far outa the fuckin water it lands in the sahara desert.

 

[Dr Super Good]

In terms of price <-> content, what you get, Gw2 blows Diablo so far outa the fuckin water it lands in the sahara desert.

Until the dupes, bots and hacks run rampant... I give it 2 weeks.

Also the average play time says something else with a lot of players having times of over 400h. Content much?

I garuntee you I will know something in Diablo III you do not.

 

[rulerofiron99]

Well no.

Diablo 3 only has about 3 hours content - how long it takes for you to finish the first "difficulty" of the game.

The rest of the "difficulties", reusing the same areas and monsters except with HIGHER NUMBERS, isn't content. That's a crappy way to extend the game. And the difficult ramp at higher levels makes it a ridiculous grind.

 

[Dr Super Good]

It took me 7-9 hours to play through normal mode at first. Even then I only experieced a fraction of the content (took dozens of hours before I saw all events). I still find new stuff running areas I never knew about.

 

[Rispetto]

It took me 7-9 hours to play through normal mode at first. Even then I only experieced a fraction of the content (took dozens of hours before I saw all events). I still find new stuff running areas I never knew about.

That's like saying

"I once ran MC and we skipped the first mobs. Then we went back and did them and OMG some grey rocks dropped on them. That's serious content boys"

 

[Dr Super Good]

No its like the A4 enemies you can find in events in A3. No clue what they were summoning (killed them too fast).

 

[Rispetto]

That's like saying

"I once ran MC and we skipped the first mobs. Then we went back and did them and OMG some grey rocks dropped on them. That's serious content boys"

No its like the A4 enemies you can find in events in A3. No clue what they were summoning (killed them too fast).

....

also take it here please.

 

[redscores]

I give you 10 reasons why Diablo 3 is a disgrace for Diablo:

1. HP balls that heal you when you walk over them (wtf? much arcade/casual bullshit?)
2. Atmosphere is horrible, the game is not creepy or dark, but WoW colorful cartoony.
3. No skilling, just skill selection which is by FAR not as deep (another casual bullshit)
4. Many useless skills who work horribly.
5. Classes are always what they are intended to do, no individualization.
6. The items are a disgrace, no interesting modificators, bad randomization and items have no character like the old unique items from diablo 2.
7. Broken gameplay on release (HAHA! in inferno you get every 10 years a new item for your set! have fun! nice farming and trying to force you for real money auction house).
8. A AUCTION HOUSE IN A FUCKING DROP BASED GAME! thats the most stupid and idiotic idea on the face of the planet.... the game is about GETTING items by YOURSELF by killing big and cool enemies.
9. Boring bosses, strategies are stupid and most of them are a disgrace for diablo 2 (the new butcher? HAHAHAH... I never knew the butcher is a 20 feet big monster... oh wait he isnt, hes a demon from hell who is the incarnation of perversion whos as big as a normal human.... and he died in Diablo 1... how could he return, demons cant be ressurected beside the 4 great evils in diablo.
10. real money auction house that takes 15% of the money you sell stuff for... and you are forced to use the RMA because the drop chances for good stuff in later levels is abysmal.

 

[Dr Super Good]

1. HP balls that heal you when you walk over them (wtf? much arcade/casual bullshit?)

Replaces the potion spam nonsense Diablo II had.

2. Atmosphere is horrible, the game is not creepy or dark, but WoW colorful cartoony.

Diablo II was not dark, it was just 16 bit (or was it 8bit?) colour and more a joke than anything. Durance of Hate may look crazy with its blood filled pools but on Hell when the place is the size of an entire above ground area it becomes a joke more than anything. Getting between floors would hav taken hours of walking, talk about bad dungeon design.

3. No skilling, just skill selection which is by FAR not as deep (another casual bullshit)

Deep? In Diablo II there were only a few usable skill builds while in Diablo III there are hundreds. Every day I see people using different skill sets while in Diablo II I used to se dozens of sorcresses skilled the same. When you are in a baal run with 7 other people and they are all sorcresses you start to see how stupid the skill system was.

Permanent choices do not make something better. They make something exclusive as a lot of people will make wrong choices or refuse to play due to them.

4. Many useless skills who work horribly.

A problem that is being fixed (unlike Diablo II). In Diablo II most skills were usless. I am surpised you are not using this as a positive as it seems to fit in with all other Diablo games.

5. Classes are always what they are intended to do, no individualization.

No individualisim? I garuntee you most players will look different ingame if you put them next to each other. They will have different skill sets, different armor looks and different armor coulours. In Diablo II everyone was an exact clone of each other from skills down to stats so if anything you should find this a positive.

6. The items are a disgrace, no interesting modificators, bad randomization and items have no character like the old unique items from diablo 2.

The items in Diablo II were a disgrace. 99.9999% of rares and magicals were usless. Bad randomization meant that your high ruins could lose value if they rolled a low ruin word. Most uniques in Diablo II were clones, next to the bad randomization. 99.9% of players were kitted exclusivly in uniques and ruin words which defeats the purpose of rares and magicals. If anything the attributes you mention here were more present in Diablo II than anything.

7. Broken gameplay on release (HAHA! in inferno you get every 10 years a new item for your set! have fun! nice farming and trying to force you for real money auction house).

Innitial server difficulites were to be expected but they have atmost caused a few hours of inconvenience for me (which I spent doing something I wanted to make time for anyway). Buying set items is not that difficult if you are willing to spend time. I could probably complete any set in Diablo III before the time it took me to complete the Imortal Kings set in Diablo II (never did). Infact good sets were so hard to complete in Diablo II the only one I have managed is Tal-Rasha. I never did get the Immortal Kings Sacred Armor to drop despite having two dozen mauls and a dozen of all other pieces.

8. A AUCTION HOUSE IN A FUCKING DROP BASED GAME! thats the most stupid and idiotic idea on the face of the planet.... the game is about GETTING items by YOURSELF by killing big and cool enemies.

Diablo II had one... Infact Diablo II had many competing ones. Welcome to third party sites which provide that service unless the game does. If you see a hammerdin in Diablo II there is a 2/3 chance he got atleast part of his gear from such a site (even using real money). Shows how much you know about drop based games silly...

9. Boring bosses, strategies are stupid and most of them are a disgrace for diablo 2 (the new butcher? HAHAHAH... I never knew the butcher is a 20 feet big monster... oh wait he isnt, hes a demon from hell who is the incarnation of perversion whos as big as a normal human.... and he died in Diablo 1... how could he return, demons cant be ressurected beside the 4 great evils in diablo.

Sorry but is this a joke? Diablo I had physical limitations preventing them for making monsters bigger than 1 tile. Even Diablo was as big as a human despite being the Lord of Terror.

The butcher is demon made construct from parts of other demons and thus can be resurrected as much as felt useful. The demon soul used to power the butcher may be different from Diablo I (a generic demon) but Magda did not need anything special next to something to kill the heroes.

4 great evils? Ok you need to go back and play Diablo I and II as they clearly say there were 3 prime evils and various lesser evils (who used to just be demons and nothing special). The prime evils are and were Diablo, Baal and Mephisto. The lesser evils is a new invention but the fact remains there were only 3 prime evils. The demons Azmodan, Belial, Andarial and Durail revolted against the prime evils as stated in Diablo II lore long before Diablo III. Andarial used to be daughter of Lilith and Mephisto but that was axed in the revision of lore for Diablo III to promote her.

10. real money auction house that takes 15% of the money you sell stuff for... and you are forced to use the RMA because the drop chances for good stuff in later levels is abysmal.

You even played Diablo III yet? Seems not...

Only comodities have a fixed percentage charge. Items have a fixed charged (of 1 currency). If your item sells for 250 currency (believe me, some have) then you will get 249 of that currency.

The 15% you are refering to is the charge to convert ingame assets back into real life money. This is charged by paypal and other such companies which do the transactions and not by Activision Blizzard (they do not make any money from that charge).

try path of exile, thats how Diablo 3 shouldve been.

Boring, lots of usless content and bug filled? Sorry I prefer well made games.

Hellgate London *cough* *cough*

Dr Super Good you mutated to a moronic fanboy who can't discern a horribly designed attempt at a cash-in from a good game...

Uh hu...

 

[Vengeancekael]

... Why is Diablo 3 being discussed in a Guild Wars related thread?
Also seriously redscores, be more civilized and don't aggro on people like that.

 

[Gilles]

So... back to guild wars...

Anyone actually playing it yet? From what I read here early entry has started?

 

[rulerofiron99]

So... back to guild wars...

Anyone actually playing it yet? From what I read here early entry has started?

It has been officially released.

Right now my buddies that are playing it are complaining about a patch every day, but enjoying it greatly.

 

[Vengeancekael]

The first patch that was released caused everyone to restart their game while they were in-game and thus their servers crashed due to everyone trying to re-login at the same time, but it's been fixed now. I haven't encountered any problems so far, except for a few crashes, but a lot of people seem to be having issues with their keys having to be changed, etc.
It's pretty stable now actually, but the population is really high, so you constantly get placed in an overflow server.
I'm having lots of fun with my level 27 Asura Elementalist :3

 

[Rispetto]

I have to say.. with a level 27 Elementalist and a level 11 Warrior it gets pretty grindy pretty fast.. I mean I love the graphics and all and if WvW didnt take 1.5 hours to queue and was hella laggy I'd probably enjoy this game A LOT more.

Jus sayin

 

[redscores]

I play guild wars 2 at the moment and it is very well made but still a bit laggy.

Right now my favorite classes are thief and huntsman.

 

[Dr Super Good]

And by the way, half of your arguments are based on bias and on not knowing Diablo 2 too well...

If I do not know it "too well" then one can only assume you have never played it at all. I know a lot about Diablo II. From the inner workings of the game engine to various farming stratergies and tactics. I have tried almost every possible build Diablo II had to offer with varying degrees of sucess. I have owned an Enigma, HotO, Torch, Ani, Tal set, HoZ. I have soloed Uber Diablo. I have even helped with Uber Tristram dozens of times. I know how drops work. I know most skill mechanics. I know most bugs.

The only things I have not got are some uniques and sets as they were impossibly rare and most HR types (never had a single one drop...).

Yes I only played since a few years after LoD, but so have most people.

before you actually were someone... now you are a fanboy.

Atleast you have not changed a bit, I guess...