Grunt

[Moderator]

22:53, 26th Aug 2012
HappyTauren: It is beyond me why you've put so much effort into this, since it is already done so many times. It is also bigger in size than http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/campaign-screen-grunt-113042/?prev=search%3Dgrunt%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20

 

[Narandza]

He looks nice, kinda suspecious, reminds me too much of world of warcraft, anyway I've tested him in warcraft and his animations are really bad, awful, and he has a custom walk speed which I don't like!
2/5

Edit: I don't know if animations were changed but tell me if they are, when I tested the model he had really bad animations...

 

[-Grendel]

those animations are terrible

 

[JesusHipster]

Pay more attention to animations, i see that this time, you tried better, but it's still bad.

 

[Power]

He looks nice, kinda suspecious, reminds me too much of world of warcraft, anyway I've tested him in warcraft and his animations are really bad, awful, and he has a custom walk speed which I don't like!
2/5

Why you are so Rude? if you can do it better, why you don't try it ?


On Topic : He got the same animations like Arthas, well the animations are not so good, once again i suggest you to anim transfer, Why you don't add Grunt's Animations, will fit perfectly!

Look what do i mean : http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=c8w4iw

I transfered his animations in 5 Mins ^^

 

[MiniMage]

Actually, Power, those are valid points. What they are pointing out is that his animations are awkward and need work. But the mesh is very nice. Hivers have never really perfected critiques and usually just pinpoint what they do not like. Also, that animation transfer is far from perfect. Although, it's a nice step in the right direction. Animation Transfer, then fix the minor errors and you got nice animations and a good mesh.

 

[rcshaggy]

I really like that aura surrounding him, but still its a ok model.

 

[JoySoy]

Why you are so Rude? if you can do it better, why you don't try it ?


On Topic : He got the same animations like Arthas, well the animations are not so good, once again i suggest you to anim transfer, Why you don't add Grunt's Animations, will fit perfectly!

Look what do i mean : http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=c8w4iw

I transfered his animations in 5 Mins ^^

It is perfect!
I will only make a few adjustments here.
+ReP.

 

[Its Ryan Boi]

Looks pretty cool man. Just polish those animations man!

 

[Deros]

This one better...
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...n-grunt-113042/?prev=search=grunt&d=list&r=20

 

[MiniMage]

Deros has a point, if something identical already exists, with the same kind of animation and the same mesh, this probably could not be approved due to the originality rule that was implemented a few years ago to reduce the chances of anything being submitted multiple times.

Which is kinda sad. Good work, hope it was good training, but seeing that something like this already exists, this most likely will be rejected, sorry.

 

[JoySoy]

Deros has a point, if something identical already exists, with the same kind of animation and the same mesh, this probably could not be approved due to the originality rule that was implemented a few years ago to reduce the chances of anything being submitted multiple times.

Which is kinda sad. Good work, hope it was good training, but seeing that something like this already exists, this most likely will be rejected, sorry.

But my version has more stuff.
And I did not even know one existed.

 

[MiniMage]

But my version has more stuff.
And I did not even know one existed.

Your point? I don't make the rules, don't shoot the messenger. :C
Let's wait and see, nothing is ever written in stone. All I say is that chances are slim.

 

[Misha]

all the modern computer and internet capabilities have gone sky-high, and people still rarely just... search? Oo

EDIT: hmm.. this looks like a mirror to http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...n-grunt-113042/?prev=search=grunt&d=list&r=20

 

[MiniMage]

Well, yes. The creator of the other model posted a tutorial on how he did the model. Apparently the grunt animation transitioned better when you changed the sword to the other hand.
This mesh however, has no real differences from the cinematic screen at all, besides animations, of course.

 

[Dead Inside]

im confused with all this negativity it seems fine 2 me.
either that or im lookin at a similar model.......

 

[MiniMage]

im confused with all this negativity it seems fine 2 me.
either that or im lookin at a similar model.......

This is a WIP posted on the other model

And this is this model.

The mesh is taken from the Campaign Screen, the difference is that it is posted in the other, thus dubbed "Campaign Screen Grunt" While this model has no mention of this fact. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...n-grunt-113042/?prev=search=grunt&d=list&r=20
So, we're not being negative, we're basically pointing out that you Joysoy and that other guy have made identical models, save for the placement of the axe.

Which leads me to say good luck with your next model, but hold no high hopes for this one. ;/
Misha has a point btw. The other model is three years old, why didn't you look before you started working?

 

[JoySoy]

This is a WIP posted on the other model

And this is this model.

The mesh is taken from the Campaign Screen, the difference is that it is posted in the other, thus dubbed "Campaign Screen Grunt" While this model has no mention of this fact. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...n-grunt-113042/?prev=search=grunt&d=list&r=20
So, we're not being negative, we're basically pointing out that you Joysoy and that other guy have made identical models, save for the placement of the axe.

Which leads me to say good luck with your next model, but hold no high hopes for this one. ;/
Misha has a point btw. The other model is three years old, why didn't you look before you started working?

I created the movements normally.
Only the Power showed a better demonstration.
And put to transfer animations.

 

[MiniMage]

It's the identical mesh that creates the issue though.

 

[Misha]

Well, yes. The creator of the other model posted a tutorial on how he did the model. Apparently the grunt animation transitioned better when you changed the sword to the other hand.
This mesh however, has no real differences from the cinematic screen at all, besides animations, of course.

it is a she

im confused with all this negativity it seems fine 2 me.
either that or im lookin at a similar model.......

i'm not negative, just pointing we have this kind of a model already, hope the maker still had fun making it

 

[Sephalo]

Give it 2 axes and use rexxar's animations and you made it original enough for me!

 

[MiniMage]

Give it 2 axes and use rexxar's animations and you made it original enough for me!

Actually, there already is a version like that on the hive.

 

[Sephalo]

Actually, there already is a version like that on the hive.

Hmm not one that looks like this or has 100-200 kb size.

 

[MiniMage]

Hmm not one that looks like this or has 100-200 kb size.

Personally, I'd just use this model if I were you. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/orcish-berserker-160867/?prev=d=list&r=200&c=1
It is more fitting to warcraft 3's style.

 

[Sephalo]

Personally, I'd just use this model if I were you. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/orcish-berserker-160867/?prev=d=list&r=200&c=1
It is more fitting to warcraft 3's style.

That one doesn't look like this at all and I really don't like the looks.
As I said. This one with 2 axes is cool. All other models with the same 'idea' on thw are in my opinion, ugly or have a too high filesize.

 

[-Grendel]

how about giving it rexxar animations while still keeping the grunt animations. kinda like alternate anims.

 

[JollyD]

nice job

 

[HammerFist132]

this is blizzard done model for orc campaing so only if animations are good then and model is good

 

[MiniMage]

this is blizzard done model for orc campaing so only if animations are good then and model is good

You just skipped the whole conversation? XD

 

[HappyTauren]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...n-grunt-113042/?prev=search=grunt&d=list&r=20

 

[Abraham Dipin Jacob]

model and great job on extracting, but it doesn't fit with the WC 3 in game style, too much detail.

 

[Mikebenjamin]

Good job