Goblin Detonation v1.2

[Moderator]

Orcnet

10:55, 22th July 2013

Comment

Review

Map Approved

Goblin Detonation (Version 1.0b) Rate Score Percent Letter 5/5 91-100 A Rate Score Percent Letter 4/5 81-90% B Rate Score Percent Letter 3/5 75-80% C Rate Score Percent Letter 2/5 70-74% D Rate Score Percent Letter 1/5 50-69% F Overview: Gameplay "The gameplay is kinda cool it reminds me of a bomberman vs bomberman type of games, though it would be great if all mine has a time limit, because it wouldn't be fair if all players can spam the map with a lot of bombs and it can be really harmful, also if you play this solo, all events quickly ends it would be nice if you can still play events(mini-games?) in the game even without the number count of players." Terrain "Terrain right now is very flat, you could adjust it more with a theme of a junk/hoarding like craps of metal with a dirty spread from the forest, that way it would look of a goblin field than just a regular forest." Management "To my testings, this game can be useful and it would be goodly fit for players and friends alike to try this out." Total Score: Rate Score Percent Letter 8/15 77% C

 

[Doomguy80]

i had fun with this one when it was in development. Happy to see that you have finally released it!

 

[UndeadImmortal]

Good to see that this is out! Good luck for the approval!

 

[GIMLI_2]

sugestion: in the screenshot, put a screen of the game, not that image that doesnt apport because it is already in the minimap layout

yes i should do that. thanks for your replies i found some bugs and will release 1.0b today with some fixes, i hope you will test it cause i cannot test the map alone. you can already read the 1.0b changelog

edit: another question, when is this map under the map download section? if it gets approved?

edit: uploaded 1.0b and added screenshots

 

[Silverfox]

Does this map include AI?

 

[GIMLI_2]

no but i will think about it

 

[GIMLI_2]

I thought about new content in v1.1. i want to hear your opinions about it:

-adding one additional specific active ability to each goblin class.
-of course one new special event
-a new battel zone which is smaller (so you can take the smaller one if you have less players, you can choose the battle area in the dialog at the beginning)
-maybe one new mine (but i really have no idea what it could be)

im open for suggestions!

 

[Mech_Warrior]

Hey GIMLI_2,

Wow, great map! My clan and I had a lot of fun playing this on Bnet.

Here's my bug report:

1) I one time spawned inbetween the two rocks in the southern lake, and was stuck there and couldn't move at all. Maybe add a pathing blocker inbetween them so this doesn't happen.
2) One time, we had the mini-game Detonation (I think that's what it's called, it's the one where you wait for the signal, and then first to press Y wins) twice in a row, and the second time my Detonation ability was still on cooldown. I couldn't do anything except wait for a dif person to press it. xD
3) Your F9 log has cut off text. I'm guessing at some point you copy/pasted the Quests trigger, and it cut this off. You might want to re-type it.

My balance suggestions:

1) Nuclear bombs seem imba. Not once did anybody actually manage to defuse one. What I suggest is, make the bomb neutral passive with small vision range so that everyone knows where on the map it is, at least. Most of the time, we couldn't even find the bomb by the time it went off, giving the owner +5 coins.

Other suggestions:

1) Another mini-game type or two would be appreciated.
2) For the new mine, I suggest a mine that could function like a Stasis Trap with a large AoE.
3) You could also add a mine that functions as a True Sight ward, revealing mines in a small AoE and giving vision.

These are my initial comments, take them for what they're worth! It was a fun game, I hope you keep updating it.

-Mech

 

[GIMLI_2]

@Mech Warrior
thanks for your post!
i will fix all the bugs but i dont understand the 3rd one, how can it happen that text has cut off?

about the nuclear bomb, cause you said 5 points, i assume you were 6 players. when more players are on the map its easier to defuse it. cause of that i will add different regions so you can select smaller ones. i also implented the rogue class, it should be easy to find the nuclear bomb with it without tapping in other mines (cause of Detector).
however youre right, its still a bit overpowered, maybe add a longer time.

about your other suggestions, im open for mini-game suggestions^^

 

[GIMLI_2]

what do you think about it?

Active Effect: Creates a Robo-Goblin at the targeted location which can be used as a dummy.
Hitpoints: 100
Duration: 20 seconds
Cooldown: 80 seconds
Hotkey: X

Open

a new active ability for the engineer.

 

[Mech_Warrior]

@Gimli_2 regarding the F9 thing:

I have noticed that if you copy and paste the trigger in which the Quest menu was created, it cuts off the text at a certain point. It's after x number of characters, I believe. Not sure entirely why, but it does. You might need to re-type the things in the F9 menu, that's all.

 

[GIMLI_2]

ok i will try it out. thank you

 

[GIMLI_2]

nearly finished 1.1
it just includes some minor things and a new event.
if there is someone who wants to test 1.1, let me know! i need some testers before i upload it here.
Battle.net: GIMLI_2
Garena: GIMLI_2

 

[Daffa]

does this have AI?

 

[UndeadImmortal]

does this have AI?

....

Does this map include AI?

no but i will think about it

 

[Orcnet]

Map approved, see moderator comment on top.

 

[GIMLI_2]

"Terrain right now is very flat, you could adjust it more with a theme of a junk/hoarding like craps of metal with a dirty spread from the forest, that way it would look of a goblin field than just a regular forest."

im a bad terrainer :/ i really tried my best
about the events, or minigames.. its a very important part of the game. also it doesnt work in singleplayer because you need an enemy in every event, otherwise it makes no sense^^
this map is based for 7-8 players until now, if you are less, its less fun.
in future i will add smaller areas for 5-6, 3-4 players

though it would be great if all mine has a time limit

i am not sure if its necessary in a 8-man party the mines wont exist longer than 2 minutes.
thanks for the review and the approval!

EDIT: Added a Description for every Event at first page

 

[Mech_Warrior]

Hey gimli, my clan and I can test with you, drop by Clan MnM @ US East.

Otherwise, just release an intermediate version and we'll test for you at our leisure, and report bugs to you.

-Mech

 

[GIMLI_2]

yeah that would be great, thanks

heres an attachment file of the upcoming v1.1
i have to say that it could be heavily bugged


DONT DOWNLOAD, HEAVILY BUGGED!!!!!!!!!!! xD

added Test2, hopefully should work now

 

[GIMLI_2]

still working on this one, 1.1 will be a huge update, so stay tuned!

 

[GIMLI_2]

nearly finished v1.1, i hope there will be some more guys who rate the map

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Cool map, but AI would make it better. 4 stars, but I didn't get the whole experience with just 2 players.

 

[GIMLI_2]

yes i think i will start working on AI if 1.1 is out. 2 players are too less, youre right.

 

[Rheiko]

this map is need an AI!
btw, cool map
goblin thumbs up!

 

[GIMLI_2]

this map is need an AI!

yeah
but i have to do lots of other things first.
i also think that an ai player can never replace a real player. ai gameplay is too static.
but if you all wanna have ai^^ i will do it if i finished the other things

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Is this on makemehost yet?

 

[GIMLI_2]

Is this on makemehost yet?

dont know this one^^ could you explain how and where? thanks

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

dont know this one^^ could you explain how and where? thanks

http://makemehost.com/
free hosting service, no download. So I don't have to forward my ports or whatever it's called

 

[GIMLI_2]

http://makemehost.com/
free hosting service, no download. So I don't have to forward my ports or whatever it's called

i'll try this out.

in 9 days will be the last beta test, so i will release 1.1 some days later

 

[GIMLI_2]

got some problems with optimizing the map. there will be a small delay on release date

 

[GIMLI_2]

finally its out
i hope there will be some guys who play this.
i didnt test the map very often, so i need some bug reports

 

[monkeyboy15]

Oooooo this looks interesting. Gonna try this out with my buddies.

 

[Templar890]

epic!!!...4/5

 

[GIMLI_2]

Oooooo this looks interesting. Gonna try this out with my buddies.

epic!!!...4/5

thanks

did anyone notice bugs or mistakes? im not sure about the gambling event

 

[GIMLI_2]

Hey guys, i continued working on the new version.

I will take out a 1.1b version with bugfixes first, but this version will include most of the stuff of the 1.2, just not selectable. That means the 1.2 version wil come out DIRECTLY after the 1.1b version.
Changelog:
2 new Goblins to pick (done)
1 new Area (done)
1 new Vehicle (done)
system fixes (not done)
balance improvements (done)
This could come in the future:
new mine(s)
new events
new modes (capture the flag, team mode)
new goblins
new vehicles
super items
...

however i did quite a lot of stuff, so 1.2 is in the near future

 

[sabishii]

update please.. i like play this map with my friends

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

update please.. i like play this map with my friends

Err. Asking someone to update with no specific requests is just... nothing.

 

[GIMLI_2]

i finally got some time to release it.
here is the changelog:

Changelog

System:

-More efficiency and reduced lags

Gameplay:

-Day/Night vision decreased from 1000/1000 to 750/600
-Increased hitpoints of Squee/Spleen/Spoon by 50
-Increased duration of Divided we stand from 40 to 45 seconds
-Increased cast range of Fire Force from 600 to 650
-Fire Force now forces you always at maximum range
-Fire Force has now a faster start speed but decreases with time
-Divided we stand now teleports you to a random Goblin that survived after time expired
-Chain Hook can now be targeted
-Added a new vehicle
-Added 2 new Goblins
-Added a new area (recommended for 5-6 players)

Items:

-

Visuals:

-Fixed some tooltips
-Fixed Flamethrower buff icon
-Improved Map Desing slightly
-Changed Icon of Gamble
-Changed Icon of Steal
-Changed Icon of Flamethrower
-Changed minor things on Multiboard
-Changed Chain Hook animation

i already noticed a minor bug at the beginning. picking phase should be disabled until player1 select game settings.

the map also has some balancing issues with the 2 new classes, i will fix that.
the zeppelin vehicle is not as overpowered as he was before in the new version due to more focus on damage to air units.

the new map also includes some changes not mentioned in the changelog just as a VERY weak AI just for testing (they just walk around, lay mines and collect item boxes, they DONT react in events), also a new timer for the nuclear bomb

another bug for my list: player slot 9 and 10 is buggy in events

 

[GIMLI_2]

small update with the fixes mentioned above

 

[GIMLI_2]

i'm currently working on 1.2c which includes:
-several bug fixes and balance improvements
-some visual effects
-some reworked abilities

i also want to mention that 100 people downloaded this map in the past few days and i got no feedback
i want to improve this map, so i'd like to get some opinions about what's bad or could be better

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

I'll host this on Battle.net soon so hopefully I can give you some feedback later.

 

[GIMLI_2]

I'll host this on Battle.net soon so hopefully I can give you some feedback later.

wow thats awesome! thanks for your support