Ghosts

[Textor]

The dimensions I am speaking of, is just ways we perceive the world.

I am not talking about time and all that. I am talking about the space we occupy. The dimensions have nothing to do with time, guys.

And what dimensions are ? I only know its a 2D , 3D , 4D...

 

[bestoboy]

What he's saying is that the dimensions go all the way up to 10D

 

[donut3.5]

The dimensions have nothing to do with time, guys.

4th dimension is space-time, by general relativity physics anyways.
--donut3.5--

 

[Mr. Bob]

4th dimension is space-time, by general relativity physics anyways.
--donut3.5--

I am talking about mathmatical dimensions.

 

[Hakeem]

Which are infinite. If you consider time a dimension, then you may reach the conclusion that there is an upper limit of ten.

 

[Mr. Bob]

Which are infinite. If you consider time a dimension, then you may reach the conclusion that there is an upper limit of ten.

Omg....


Ok guys. Listen very carefully. I do not mean spacetime. I mean Spatial Dimensions.

You all are thinking of the wrong type of dimensions.

 

[Thrikodius]

Here is one. Make sure to read the subtitles.

Im kinda sceptic to this one:

This one is pretty creepy: (make sure to watch at least the last half)

I belived in ghosts before I saw either of theese videos. I once had someone in my closet who played with my lego. I could hear pretty clearly how the pieces where thrown down among the others in the plastic chest I keept it all in.

Another time, a candle in my living room fell onto a wooden chest about 1.5 meters away. Kinda strage since the table that the candle stood on is only 10 centimeters higher than the chest.

 

[Joe-black-5]

We call that a Jin, they exist and if you try to contact them, they possess you, they are normal to be heard of here in my country, i know a house that have jins (jin is a creature created by god, ghosts are human spirits, that go to the barzak world after death waiting for judjment day) you can see things suddenly moving (no voices)
(the jin are two categories the good and the bad like humans)
and you cant see a jin by the way

 

[Thrikodius]

I don't have any religous belive. In my opinion, some human spirits stay around. It could be for various reasons. I also belive that they can only bee seen if they want to.

 

[Textor]

We call that a Jin, they exist and if you try to contact them, they possess you, they are normal to be heard of here in my country, i know a house that have jins (jin is a creature created by god, ghosts are human spirits, that go to the barzak world after death waiting for judjment day) you can see things suddenly moving (no voices)
(the jin are two categories the good and the bad like humans)
and you cant see a jin by the way

In SuperNatural i saw a episode with a Jin , it was looking as a human with many tatoos on face he maked his hand and eys blue and have touched him then he awake in his "PERFECT WORLD" he was only dreaming it was not a wish and the jin was drinking his blood. Supernatural is not real but i like to watch on it realy creepy and scary...

 

[Thrikodius]

I saw a TV show once where they helped people who had problems with ghosts. Once, a ghost had raped a woman in the house. XD

 

[Japut3h]

I saw a TV show once where they helped people who had problems with ghosts. Once, a ghost had raped a woman in the house. XD

Shit, rapist ghosts?

We are so fucked.

 

[Joe-black-5]

In SuperNatural i saw a episode with a Jin , it was looking as a human with many tatoos on face he maked his hand and eys blue and have touched him then he awake in his "PERFECT WORLD" he was only dreaming it was not a wish and the jin was drinking his blood. Supernatural is not real but i like to watch on it realy creepy and scary...

in Quraan there is a part that talk about the jin, from what you described, jin can terrorize people in their dreams for long periods its true (if the house contain them) but the description about his form, they can come in many form they are weird creature that we cant understand, i think they can change there shape

 

[reza sword2]

Joe-black-5 are you Muslim? What country are you from?

And to add to Joe-black-5's descriptions of a Jin:

It is said Jin's are like people. Some of them Believe, some of them are atheist. They can be annoying like some people but helpful like others. There are good Jins and bad ones. And yes, as for their appearance, they change form. Also said they can reveal themselves to humans at their own will.

I've also heard from somewhere (can't remember) that once you're born, there is a Jin that follows you around. It follows you where ever you go. And once you die, they sort of become your replacement. They're the ones that are going to be around taking your form and talking like you and haunt people and shit. I forgot where I heard that.

 

[terradont]

Shit, rapist ghosts?

We are so fucked.

I've even heard of one of those really odd japanese fetishes, called ghost porn. From what i've understood they are made to look like the woman(or man in some cases?) is being raped by an invisible ghost, and therefore is in some unatural poses.

I don't know, but to me it feels like it would be more creepy than a turn-on...

 

[jarri]

uhh, i dont think think we should discuss matters relating to the occult here, i mean no ordinary human knows anything about ghosts and all right? so its pointless to discuss this..

 

[Teh_Ephy]

lol in islam whe have creatures named jin and we dont beleive there are ghosts
(humans, animals, jins, angels and devils)

Assuming I'm translating from Arabic, the proper romanisation of that word is either Djinni or Genie. Djinn is the plural form, although that usually becomes Genies in English.

Also, the amount of fail science and misunderstandings in this thread make my head hurt.

 

[Joe-black-5]

The Genie is a legendary creature that can grant wishs ( like in Aladin) but the jin is something different we beleive that it exist

 

[jarri]

lol the genie in aladin is based of the jinn that we muslims believe in. (God mentions them in the Quran but the Prophet discouraged us to associate with them in anyway)

 

[thegreatsmite]

if ghosts existed, then everytime a ghost would appear then all of existance would fall apart and we would all...well we would all becom ghosts.
i belive in physics. i bet you've all heard of thermodynamics, and the simple law that matter cannot be created or destroyed. in order to see a ghost it has to emit light right? or contain some sort of trasparent matter? well, for somthing to emit light a chemical reaction must occur, reguardless of weather its infared,visible, or gamma light. well then ghost have to be large blobs of matter emiting radiation. so how does this happen? simply, it cant. people claim ghosts come from people, but from where in people, when we die we dont emit matter, and according to thermodynamics it cant "just appear" when we die. so ghosts can exist. there the creation of skilled artists and paranoid people with photoshop.
But what, whats this? you ghost believers have a promanet argument to your side too, you say ghost are the result of the "magical" discharge of the electricity in our brain when we die. well, you know where that proven to go? into the resto fo our body and then into the ground as next to no charge at all, because there isnt that much electricity there to begin with.
ghost's cant exist becasue of simple science, and i am willing to argue this further with more details

 

[thegreatsmite]

oh and just to claeal somthing up, you guys are toalking about poltergeists. ghost are just there, poltergeists are ghosts that can move objects

 

[terradont]

Sure, that all sound trustworthy, and i'm a physics-believer too.
But science have been faulty before, or should i say inaccurate. Take the "earth is round" example. The scientists then had arguments of the same types as many of those of scientists today.

I believe the main reason that people see ghosts and UFOs etc is because the human mind want to believe. After all, most of us live a rather boring life

EDIT: Poltergeists are spirits that is ill-willed.
Ghosts is spirits that try to seek contact with us.
Spectres is spirits that doesn't seem to have any consiousness of our world, and usally repeat a pattern that mattered to them in some way, like the moment of their death.

 

[marcus158]

If you want a real ghost watchThisvideo.(<---Gives HIM the creeps)

 

[thegreatsmite]

If you want a real ghost watchThisvideo.(<---Gives HIM the creeps)

those were some pretty pathetic photoshopped images if you ask me. especially the last one. if you can prove the authenticity of those maybe, just maybe i'll believe in ghosts. to bad you cant (oh and i took the dare, and saw a wall, a window, a plant...and what is this...no ghost...)

and true science has been wrong before, but only becasue we proved that science as wrong by using other science! but science isn't always wrong therfore unless you can prove that the science behind proving ghosts as a hoax is false, then the science stands as true

there is no actual evedince other than a person saying they saw somthing to prove the existance of ghosts. sure there videos, pictures, but none can be proven to be authentic

also, if ghosts did exist, then how do the form the shape of a person? i went to gettysburg and did a night walk and didn't see a ghost and what the guide says is that the ghosts you may see are spheres. every person there, the tourguides and people who claimed to see the spiritual world said they saw shperes. ghosts in the shape of people adn wearing vlothes is jsut out of the question.

oh and dont get me wrong, i dont not want to believe in ghosts, i jsut believe in science's point of view becasue i have never experianced anything to make me tihnk otherwise.

 

[marcus158]

Your probably right smite, but i only think the firse one was pathetic. looks like my 4th grade halloween costumeXD

 

[Hakeem]

if you can prove the authenticity of those maybe, just maybe i'll believe in ghosts. to bad you cant

Neither can you prove anything. You can link me all the sources you want, but I'd have to take it on trust that anything they say is valid. Unless you do the experiment yourself, you cannot be 100% sure. And even if you do the experiment...

Good luck reenacting every scientific experiment in the world.

 

[thegreatsmite]

so were at a deadlock you saying? i cant prove there fake, you cant prove there real? then i guess they dont jsut exsist.. there we have it folks! ghosts dont exist

and btw, i can prove that tho photos are photoshoped... do you want me to get started? its called alpha masking and transparency layers

 

[Royy]

so were at a deadlock you saying? i cant prove there fake, you cant prove there real? then i guess they dont jsut exsist.. there we have it folks! ghosts dont exist

and btw, i can prove that tho photos are photoshoped... do you want me to get started? its called alpha masking and transparency layers

You're asking for physical evidence of a paranormal entity, that is contradiction in itself.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

well, for somthing to emit light a chemical reaction must occur, reguardless of weather its infared,visible, or gamma light.

I stopped caring right here, but for courtesy's sake I read the rest of your post. Running an electrical current through a tungsten filament is not a chemical reaction, but it still generates light, even in the visible spectrum. Also, have you ever had a glow-in-the-dark toy? Where's that chemical reaction?

well then ghost have to be large blobs of matter emiting radiation. so how does this happen? simply, it cant. people claim ghosts come from people, but from where in people, when we die we dont emit matter, and according to thermodynamics it cant "just appear" when we die. so ghosts can exist. there the creation of skilled artists and paranoid people with photoshop.

The idea isn't that something is created, but that something is separated from the body.

But what, whats this? you ghost believers have a promanet argument to your side too, you say ghost are the result of the "magical" discharge of the electricity in our brain when we die. well, you know where that proven to go? into the resto fo our body and then into the ground as next to no charge at all, because there isnt that much electricity there to begin with.
ghost's cant exist becasue of simple science, and i am willing to argue this further with more details

Your science sucks, frankly. Using science, it is physically impossible to disprove something, only to prove something that says something else.

Sure, that all sound trustworthy, and i'm a physics-believer too.
But science have been faulty before, or should i say inaccurate. Take the "earth is round" example. The scientists then had arguments of the same types as many of those of scientists today.

lol. Scientists have known the Earth was round since ancient Greece. It was the peasantry that nobody cared to educate that thought the earth was flat.

and true science has been wrong before, but only becasue we proved that science as wrong by using other science! but science isn't always wrong therfore unless you can prove that the science behind proving ghosts as a hoax is false, then the science stands as true

Technically science is never wrong, human interpretation of results are.

also, if ghosts did exist, then how do the form the shape of a person? i went to gettysburg and did a night walk and didn't see a ghost and what the guide says is that the ghosts you may see are spheres. every person there, the tourguides and people who claimed to see the spiritual world said they saw shperes. ghosts in the shape of people adn wearing vlothes is jsut out of the question.

The little spheres of light happen quite frequently actually. I'm not sure what the explanation is, but they do happen in pictures every now and then.

oh and dont get me wrong, i dont not want to believe in ghosts, i jsut believe in science's point of view becasue i have never experianced anything to make me tihnk otherwise.

Science doesn't have an opinion on ghosts so you know.

so were at a deadlock you saying? i cant prove there fake, you cant prove there real? then i guess they dont jsut exsist.. there we have it folks! ghosts dont exist

That is a logical fallacy. The basis of your claim that ghosts don't exist is that Hakeem cannot himself prove that ghosts do exist. However, you said that you cannot prove that ghosts are fake, so anyone else's claims that ghosts exist are equally as valid as your claims that ghosts are fake.

 

[jarri]

why not close this thread since no one can prove their point..?

 

[thegreatsmite]

$3 bucks says that you teh_ephy researched half your post
you have good point, but you cant just simply lay down your opinions as facts. (not all of what you said was an opinion, just most of it was). you have a good voice though for making it seem as if what your saying is fact, ill give you that.


this thread should be closed because its going nowhere i agree.

 

[redscores]

And to tell you teh_ephy, those self-glowing things are a chemical reaction.

 

[marcus158]

This is over.

SOMEONE, this is getting confusing CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!

 

[Teh_Ephy]

Hey, let's all spam instead of just reporting the thread and asking for it to be closed! Wheeeee!

P.S: Those were all facts, but I certainly am good at presenting opinions as such anyways.

And to tell you teh_ephy, those self-glowing things are a chemical reaction.

I was also thinking things like impurities on the film somehow or dust on the lens, but I'm pretty sure I'm missing the most common reason.

 

[Kuhneghetz]

I believe in ghosts.

There, now the OT moderators can close this thread.

 

[brad.dude03]

"Apparently the consensus is that people want this thread closed."

I give the people what they want.