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From World Editor to Computer Science

Discussion in 'Computer Tech' started by Ralle, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. bisnar13

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    I played warcraft III since I was about 5-6 years old, (2005). Since then I enjoyed playing warcraft games, including DotA and custom games, I was kinda taught by my older brother how to play, so when I was 12 years old, I aspired to make my own maps! Since after my first try, I got better and better, understanding the triggers and how to make things happen and stuff, now, some of my classmates were surprised because, it looked quite cool for a game in warcraft, and having my own game in it. So about two weeks ago, I was also aspired to make my own models :D, and thank you to Misha, Maestros, TLI-Inferno and others. I learned how to make good ones, now I got a few approved models after just a few days :D, now I aspire on making a few spells or icons :). Well after I have done that, I will make my own map that would include my models, spells, icons and other stuff. :)
     
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    That's cool! You will be creating everything yourself at some point. Just like Rao Dao Zao :)
     
  3. bisnar13

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    Thanks Ralle :D
     
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    On another site related to Wc3 and the Editor I know many longtime posters which are also somehow related to computers or mathematics by study or profession.

    I guess its the fun and curiosity when exploring new things that makes us want to do that in later life.
     
  5. CRAZYRUSSIAN

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    I played warcraft3... when I was... 16ish

    got hooked for like 4 years, found this community by accident and began posing my resources. Tried to make my own maps but always got stuck on tigers and never made complete map.
    So I left map making for professional map creators, lolz, and decided to aid them with my art things. At that point I played nothing but maps created here.

    Stopped playing warcraft then, but never stopped making assets for this community!
    4+ years later about +/- 800 icons and other art things created for this community.

    Had an honor to be awarded the "best member award" or something like that, then award was removed for some reason.

    Through the icons I made for HIVE One programmer found me and commissioned me to create his game MatchCraft Here http://www.gameyeti.com/
    That game is about to comeout on Ipad, Iphone, Ipod.

    I work now as a professional UI artist in the industry with GaryGames on their new game SolForge http://www.solforgegame.com/ in collaboration with the creator of Magic the Gathering, Richard Garfield.

    I got that job because of the UI I created for HIVE, the frozen warcraft UI.

    Proudly I show off my work that was created with in this community on my site.
    http://antonmagdalina.carbonmade.com/projects/2494254

    Happy to be here.
    (just wish still had my user award back lolz)
     
  6. Ralle

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    Thank you for sharing your story. Amazing that this was actually basically a resume for you in some fashion.
    I will see what I can do.
     
  7. CRAZYRUSSIAN

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    Well, cant put fan art for resume.
    But yes, it is in my portfolio of the work am proud of.



    About the awards... I think mods or admin removed that one because of some issues people had a while back, so I doubt they will reinstate it.

    Thanks anyway.
     
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    I don't usually share personal stories, but because Ralle is a hell of a guy I will.
    Computers run in my blood. My father did it for 30 years before he passed away 2 years ago :( His skills far exceeded that of the CCNA certification. When I first started joining forums, much like this one, I got more interested in web development, and it has become a freelance job for me. Working with the world editor and other programmers in forums like this have pushed my interest into application programming, but I'm afraid I do not yet have time for it. As far as profession, I am currently A+ certified, and plan on having my Network+ by the end of next month. I am currently on externship with a company called Higher Information Group as a Network Technician until December, and they will most likely hire me. Future plans include going back to school for other sciences such as EE and Robotics.
    "Don't worry; I'm a professional"
     
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    Thanks man.
    It is good to know a bit of something about people I spent 7+ years with on this forum.
     
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    I started coding before I discovered Warcraft 3. I wasn't good at it, but JASS didn't really ever teach me anything I didn't learn in another language before.

    I'm currently doing last year of high school, then I'll see where it takes me.
     
  11. Ralle

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    Thanks for the support. I appreciate it :)
    Too bad about your father. It's tough when your loved ones pass away.
    It's nice with some work experience on the resume. Robots since exciting. I have always wanted to add a layer of "controlling physical things" on top of my current education. I want to make home automation things and remote control the coffee maker. Make a web site where I can unlock my door. Stuff like that.

    Thanks to you all for your participation in this thread. I found it highly interesting.
     
  12. RED BARON

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    Hmm while this is slightly necro posting I find it a great topic and would like to contribute given that I feel myself included in the category.

    I have always been a gamer from the first time when I got a computer at the age of 8 (Old DOS - with the game Captain Kaper (First danish produced computer game) on it and Larry). I then moved on when we got a machine running windows 1995 (that being the one I was allowed to play on) and about 2 years later I got my own comp. It was running 1998 and I played a lot of RTS on it - and played with the editor if they had any (usually just to mass units and other random stuff). (Among those were Warcraft - Warcraft II - Battlenet). My old computer then exploded and I got a new one with the fancy XP and one of my first new games for it (besides age of empire II) was Warcraft III. At first I just played the campaign, then I moved on to Battlenet and then finally seeing what others had done I moved to modding it with the intention of actually creating playable maps. My first maps were bad (I still have them), for one thing I didn't know about triggers at all, but while working on it and playing it with others on battlenet I improved upon it, and finally moved on to a new map with increased knowledge. I wanted to make a James Bond map, which brought be first to attempt it with only editor stuff, but then seeing as other people had used models in their maps I went on the Internet to search for such and how to do it. Which brought me to wc3sear.ch (Btw you can still access via the Internet archive, even some of the models can still be downloaded). There I had some fun trying to learn how to model, doing some 2D art..later got interrogated by Kimberly (when she was known differently) in regards to a picture I had made by happenstance while playing around with photoshop. Then the Hiveworkshop took form in connection with wc3sear.ch though for me it took a while to move. But during all of this I learned more about the editor, got a notion how to model, how to use triggers and I continued to play with it for years to come quickly coming to the fact that I enjoyed helping people almost more than I did making something for myself. So I have a whole bunch of maps, icons, models laying around that I began on - but never finished. I have everything saved from back then - except some of my earlier work as I lost them due a lightning strike that burned my computer (Insurance granted me my next much better computer). I was active on Hiveworkshop during most of my study, and more than the editor I believe that Hive was instrumental in what I ended up doing. After taking the most geeky line I could in the gymnasium (similar to college preparatory high schools), I ended up going to college and taking an education in medialogy. So now I have a bachelor of science and is currently taking a master degree in science with focus on visual design - which if everything goes as planned I will have in half a year. I'm also part of a game company which me and a couple of friends from the study have started and we're developing our first game where I serve as one of 4 3D artist.

    So yea, Warcraft 3 and even more Hiveworkshop have had a huge impact on my life. It bears a large responsibility for what I dedicated 5 years of education to and it will likely be part of what I will be working with the rest of my life. So for me its natural to hang around and help when I can/have the time. :wink:

    So yep, thanks for wc3sear.ch and even more thanks to Ralle for creating Hive. Damn this place have memories. :thumbs_up:
     
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    Thank you very much for sharing your story :).
     
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    Hehe no problem - found this and considered it a perfect thing to post in.
     
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    I'm considering in requesting change of course from Informatics Engineering (similar to Computer Science from what I've heard) to Biomedic & Biophysical Engineering this week and then try to get onto Medicine by June, but am unsure if I want to do this. Multimedia and webpage development doesn't seem to be one of the focuses of my course, I'm learning Assembly and Java right now and am starting on C next year, I understand them and sort of like them, but am in a bit of a "meh" state — my original application was for Medicine. Though, I have no guarantees that there will be any openings for Medicine through the Course Change regime. What should I do?:con:
     
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    In regards to computer science, the job market is almost impossible to saturate and I suspect it will be this way for many years to come. If you can, this would be extremely valuable for your economy for the rest of your life. I can only recommend it. If it's easy for you but you are like meh, then maybe do it anyway. It can only get more fun when you get to chose what to make and actually build cool stuff.
    But you also have to take your heart into consideration. Can you live with this? Can you see yourself doing this for the rest of your life? You may want to compare it to medicine in that regard, but I think it's easier to get a job with computer science.
     
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    I think many people started in this community before actualy trying some studies in the related field. I started modding wc3 at the age of 14 and it was thanks to that, that now a days I'm studying the software engineering master at Univertaet Stuttgart.

    I think most people who started modding at a young age are very grateful for what this community has offered them. Many no longer mod, but deeply inside their heart they still recall how their experience here allowed them to decide what they wanted for their future and what they would turn out to be.

    [Wow my 1500th post and it's a thanks to the community, :D i'm so happy about it]
     
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    Wow that's cool. It's also cool to see you back and posting, it's been a while. I hope you're well. Thanks for sharing your story :)
     
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    So true, and congratulation on that 1500th post :smile: Also very good to see you here again. (I feel with the grateful part of it, which is why I still look in and help out if able).
     
  20. BlinkBoy

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    Thought it would be helpfull. I always come and have a look at how are things going around.

    I still try to help as much as I can, even though my areas of interest differ from what the community needs now-a-days.

    Thanks I’m also glad to see you guys around.

    I wasn’t planning to extend my post further, but I do believe I should. Therefore, I would like to share some other interesting points which I've learned and I hope anyone who is starting knows a bit of how modding can really change your life. Some important points:

    Modding, at a first glance, is just a hobby, something we do for burning free time. However, it may be more than what it looks like. I believe modding is, for many of us, our first work experience. We learn to work in teams, we set objectives and we work them out from our own self motivation in order to achieve the creation of artifacts which could make our main hobby (gaming) more interesting and delightful. During my experience, I was: an artist, a mapper, a programmer and a 'lecturer'.

    As an artist, I produced material in order to incorporate my own imagination and passion for the things I liked (history for instance) into the different mods who saw my creations as key elements for their creation to take shape. This discipline instructed me to be precise, learn of perspective and actually look to the shapes and colors deeper than I could ever do before. As I had specialized in 3d animation, I learned to understand movement and how to achieve certain human like effects in a very systematic way.

    As a mapper, I produced maps for creating new ways of playing a good game which people could find interesting and enjoyable, as well, as useful for future maps and ideas. From this experience, one learns to design, brainstorm ideas, talk with clients/customers as well as learn values like humility(which to my own shame was something that sadly took me a while), honesty, empathy, gratefulness, to be willing of mind, as many others.

    As a programmer, I used my knowledge of logic and math to systemize ideas and bring them from a very abstract view into real solutions to many of the problems presented in other disciplines. It was programming who taught me to be organized, methodological and visionary on my ideas. It teaches you to think out-side the box and learn to solve problems in a very organized way. Not only that, but the science itself behind it, Computer-science, can be used to solve many of the problem present now-a-days within the market (not only software wise as many of s tend to ignore).

    As a 'lecturer', I used my experienced before mentioned to help newcomers travel along the hard path of each discipline. Using your knowledge to help others, teaches you about many aspects of social interaction, like learning to express your ideas, learning to give your ideas from one person to another and teaching yourself the importance of intellectual sensibility(how to be on their position).

    Among other important things: the modding community is an international community; one learns to work with people from different cultural backgrounds and how can you synergize within to make more creative products than you could from just one perspective. Furthermore, the need for all of us to communicate in one common language (English) different from our own mother language (Spanish in my case), gives us linguistic skills and helps us learn to express ourselves in a more fluent way.
    It is for all these reasons that I believe my time here was completely worth it. I'm grateful for being part of this community and grateful to all the different people in it which opened their heart and shared what they had. There's no more and better thing to say, that thanks to that I became a better man and i was able to improve to some point i could have never imagined.

    With great joy I say these words, Fernando Andreas Sahmkow Beicos, aka BlinkBoy.