Fortress Defence v0.91

[Moderator]

14:03, 4th Feb 2009
Septimus: rejected.

 

[NET-RUN]

Terrian looks intresting and well done, but before I download 1299.89 KB a more detailed description would be needed.

 

[hellfire198888]

Added more descriptions.

 

[bounty hunter2]

Here is my rating and comment:

1 - 10 points go on originality
1 - 10 points go on object editor work
1 - 10 points go on scripting
1 - 10 points go on terrain
1 - 10 points go on bug free
1 - 10 points go on gameplay*/fun factor
1 - 10 points go on lag
1 - 10 points go on proper submission and crediting
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->That equals 80 points max.
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+ Cinematic
1 - 10 points on camera work
1 - 10 points on dialog
1 - 10 points on music and or voice acting
- Cinematic
Object editor work
* Not in cinematic
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That equals 100 points max.
To get a Hive grade over 1/5 at least 50% of the 80 (Triggered map) or of the 100 (Cinematic map) points is needed. That means at least 40 or 50 points. However if a map gets rated over 1/5 by me, that doesn't mean that I will imidietly vote it to be approved.

Originality: 3 points
Heroes that build have been seen, basicly a castle fight map, with nothing much to distinct it from the original.

Object editor work: 4 points
Too basic, no custom triggered spells, just old warcraft spells.

Scripting: 3 points
Not good. Why weren't my spawns owned by me? Rather you used up player spots for computer for that. You can't even keep the kill count that way.

Terrain: 3 points
Not good for this type of map. It did its purpose but that's it.

Bug Free: 8 points
At least you managed to keep your map bug free. It runs and should be able to be played till the finish.

Gameplay/Fun Factor: 3 points
Not so fun to play. Yes you have heroes that should help, but it didn't have anything to original to make it fun enough.

Lag: 4 points
No lag ingame, but quite the loading time.

Proper submission and crediting: 6 points
You should write something more about the game, what you think makes it special, add some screenshots.

In overall: 34 / 80
42% minimal 50% not met.
For the hive grade: 1/5 I suggest this map for: Rejection
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In overall it is a map that should run smoothly but you won't have much fun playing. With the boring terrain and non options this map doesn't have much originality in it. Here is what I would suggest for you:

- Adding game modes
- Adding triggered spells
- Hero duels
- Buying special creeps
- Find a terrainer or terrain better yourself

Try to think as much as things that will make your game special, now it is a lame version of the good game Castle Defense. You even copied Rescue strike.

You should improve this map, update it maybe then give it a shot. Don't let me discourage you.

Good Luck in improving, bounty hunter2
I might not be checking this topic for some time. If you have any questions about the review or you update the map and want me to check it again, feel free to PM me or Visitor message me at any time.

 

[ProfessorZmurge]

A bad imitation of Castle Fight.

 

[bounty hunter2]

A bad imitation of Castle Fight.

Haven't I said that? Try giving a more constructive comment to help the author improve.

Thanks

 

[Septimus]

I going to view it soon and give my review about it.

 

[vegetation]

I don't know what bounty hunter2 mean by :boring terrain... Becasue all posts that i can see from him says: boring terrain. The terrain is not so bad... Well i could understand if he would have said that the terrain was not the one for a Fortress, but the terrain was good (for another name but it's cool).

 

[Septimus]

Here is my review about this map via check through WE.

1) The terrain ain't impressive, it was way too smooth at most of the area. Try to use variation to adjust the height. It lack the usage of destructible/doodad as 70-80% of the map was cover by 1 type of tree. Try to improve the terrain at the center of the map as that is where the terrain is at the worst shape.

2) Lot's of defective coding which could be optimize to give it a full performance. An example would be this trigger below.

• player one
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) leaves the game
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Game - Display to (All players) the text: |cffff0000Player 1...
    • Game - Grant shared vision and full shared unit control of Player 1 (Red) units with his/her allies

Instead of setting a multiple trigger for each player, it can be optimize by given it all in 1 trigger only.

• All player
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) leaves the game
    • Player - Player 2 (Blue) leaves the game
    • Player - Player 3 (Teal) leaves the game
    • Player - Player 4 (Purple) leaves the game
    • Player - Player 5 (Yellow) leaves the game
    • Player - Player 6 (Orange) leaves the game
    • Player - Player 7 (Green) leaves the game
    • Player - Player 8 (Pink) leaves the game
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Game - Display to (All players) the text: (((Name of (Triggering player)) + has left the game.) + (Allies now have full control over + ((Name of (Triggering player)) + units|r)))
    • Game - Grant shared vision and full shared unit control of (Triggering player) units with his/her allies

3) Some hotkey not available while it should have. I seen the Marketplace have hotkey of M at WE, but you doesn't set the hotkey M.

4) Map genre was generally try to re-develop the concept of Castle Fight, but there is nothing special at it. Making it blend with other map with the same genre as well.

My vote was 1/5 and mini-moderator vote was REJECT.

Main reason for it to be reject was the trigger coding, try to optimize it and generally remove all those useless code such as Event - Do Nothing.

 

[bounty hunter2]

I don't know what bounty hunter2 mean by :boring terrain... Becasue all posts that i can see from him says: boring terrain. The terrain is not so bad... Well i could understand if he would have said that the terrain was not the one for a Fortress, but the terrain was good (for another name but it's cool).

The terrain wasn't good. As simple as that. Check maps such as Diablo III and you will know the true meaning of good terrain. It is okay for this map, but it isn't good, and therfor I can't give more then 3/10 for it.

 

[ProfessorZmurge]

Comparing Diablo III map to this map is like comparing WoW to Mario.
But yeah, he can learn alot from that Diablo III map.

 

[bounty hunter2]

Comparing Diablo III map to this map is like comparing WoW to Mario.
But yeah, he can learn alot from that Diablo III map.

He must. You see there must be a standard for things, and this terrain is really below the standard. You must compare it, as funny as it seems, but you do must. Anyway if the terrain was the only bad thing in the map then it would certanly got approved, but it isn't.