DotCa V. 1.02a

[T. D. W.]

It froze for a bit while it was loading and I thought that it made the computer crash (lol)

Yesterday I decided to try it again but let it sit for a while, and 3 minutes later it finished loading!

ahaha, the load time is a bit slow yes, and if your PC is slow, good time waiting lol and looking forward to solve this issue

 

[Daffa]

Hmm.... Load time can be Object Editor issue.....
Make sure you use good PC for the map for better chance of fast loading.

 

[T. D. W.]

Hmm.... Load time can be Object Editor issue.....
Make sure you use good PC for the map for better chance of fast loading.

If you are telling this to me...
8 GB RAM, 2,56 GHz processor Intel Core i5 600 GB HDD, gd enough? Or perfect ?

 

[Daffa]

^thats a big one
Can be said, perfect

But no matter how fast a PC is, it still at least take 1 Minute to load a map

->Unless an empty map xD

@Dotca
Did you use Widgetizer for compression?

 

[T. D. W.]

The 1.02a version doesn't, the 1.03 does
And btw, news batch..
Removed all of the 6 elemental heroes and added 2 unique and exeptional heroes which means there will be 44 heroes instead of 47 (-3 heroes)
The removal was necesary because the lich king model is 500 KB and i had to remove the other heroes' models to spare the map from 600 KB

 

[Daffa]

Good enough

Well, remember my suggestion for the Undead race replacement and Orcnet's suggestion mate? Those can be prove useful

 

[T. D. W.]

The undead MAY be replaced by the demons and there are some tweaks i added from orcnet's suggestions
Still... The improvements are taking me too much time and i have school in addition so the time taken is doubled (or maybe more) :/

 

[Daffa]

Yep, school always ruins the fun

 

[T. D. W.]

Great news guys, till now the max filesize has been reduced for a max of 7 MB (7.72 for the 1.02a), this can change since there is more work

 

[T. D. W.]

Hello guys, countdown started:
I have set the countdown for myself to 1 month (30 days), starting from 14/6/2013 ending in 14/7/2013 (release) starting at 7:00 AM (GMT +3) ending at first of 14/6/2013 (12:00 AM)
Updates will appear on this page every 2~3 days, hope you will appreciate the new version:

DotCa. V. 1.03 RLC

 

[Daffa]

Can't wait ^^

 

[T. D. W.]

Here is the official new map layout
Reasons for change: "this map has to be approved"

 

[Daffa]

Interesting layout
And that adds a little new flavor

 

[T. D. W.]

Glade you like it , a little update for the new things till now:
New revival system
New secret shops: Flying shops
New Xp gain system
New layout (idea) - (not done)
From the old update heroes:
- Thor Knight
- Bow Sister
- Tauren warchief
- Light Revenant
- Naga Cobra
- Fire Queen
- Axe Master
- Daffa the Mage
- Tank Commander
- Dark Demon
- Lich King
- Lich skills reworked
- Soul Keeper
- Lightning God

Too much advanced improvements
New Backdoor System
New anti-attack friend system
New anti-damage system
Many reworked skills
New Force Names: The Ancients, The Demons
New items: Bestial Bow, Greater Bow
Multiboard improved to one multiboard/player instead of 1 for all
Many Lag issues resolved
Removed Heroes:
-Sniper-Axe-Rhasta-Atropos-Jah'Rakal-Tiny-Pugna-Doom Ravager-Zeus-Centaur Warchief-
Removed items:
- Magic stick - magic wand - Lightning Fly -

 

[Orcnet]

I still can't get over with that intersection lanes

The idea of the 3rd lane for jungling/boss raiding is remarkable, I'll be on a watch for the incoming new layout

 

[Daffa]

We'll see how it will going to Orcnet

 

[T. D. W.]

Hahah, i will provide screenies soon, till now, main objectives are (i am finishing them in this order):
1. Heroes ----- 61%
2. Gameplay ----- 39%
3. Layout ----- 0%
4. Items ----- 10%
5. Testing/bug fixes ----- 25%

EDIT: "I decided to change plans a bit: layout is now the primary objective ;p"

 

[T. D. W.]

Sorry for the 4 hours that should be waited, but i have to update your infs, layout changed
Again
Realised that units can not go under a bridge
So i reconstructed a new layout

 

[Daffa]

Nice layout, but what the middle ones suppose to do?

 

[T. D. W.]

Creeps spawn in the 2 lines that go from the bases, when they reach the part that splits the lane, they will split into 2 groups, the intersection in the middle lines is wanted, no briges, they collide together
If you see what i mean, now the splitted creeps will : 1. Go straight to the opposite base (not the ones in middle) and 2. Will continue the straight path in middle but they will collide at the middle for the big fight
If you do not understand sometging tell me

 

[Daffa]

I understand, I would like to enter the middle to get some tons of cheap XP from creeps xD

 

[T. D. W.]

Hh yeah, but no xD, i am not idiot, ammount of creeps that will go to the middle (in total) will be slightly higher (1~2 creeps) than the orher 2, and remember, in multiplayer, you may have 4 coops, hh so 2 will go to te side lanes and 3 will be in the middle hahah, gd xP gain, no but the number of middle creeps should be higher than the other 2 to prevent inbalance between heroes going to the side lanes and the ones to the mid lanes

 

[Daffa]

Yeah, I know
Waiting for the update

 

[T. D. W.]

I can not provide too many pics for the instance, but the changes are too cool, some things i left off before in the terrain (ex: trees) were put in the map without any charm, now, omg how beautiful they look; this what i am doing right now: removed every single doodads/destrucible in the map, bases restyled, making the lanes. Awesome ^^

 

[Daffa]

Goodluck

 

[Orcnet]

Nice layout, I'll think about the middle part. The spread for 4 lanes looks very unique

 

[T. D. W.]

Haha, the middle part is (don't know) still making it and thx for telling me that it is unique, i first thought that it was common
But now, no more changes, i am on 1/4 of the work for the layout, and don't want to redo something else ;p

 

[T. D. W.]

Update

Creeps changed;
Treants: stay
Druids: Archers
Ghouls: Zombies
Necromancers: Skeletal Mages
All ranged and melee creeps hp reduced for more balance (higher number of creeps in same lane)
Gold Bounty award for all creeps reduced by 15
Towers Hp and Armor improved for balance
Towers size increased: +15/20/25/30% of original size
The Frozen Throne (Main buildings of the Undead) changed to an Icy chair to suit that the lich king returned
Added a gate on the middle oppened way in both bases
Gate can be opened/closed by 2 levers near the fountains


EDIT: DotCa 1.03 RLC BETA will be released in 12:00 hours

You will be able to try some of the new heroes, gameplay
A revolution to the 1.02

 

[T. D. W.]

DotCa V. 1.03 RLC BETA

Here is the Beta Version, try the new heroes/gameplay/layout

DOWNLOAD

 

[T. D. W.]

Informations -

1. the purple boxes in the BETA version is just a wrong tick in the Widgetizer
2. Map Load time calculated; 45 seconds (a bit long but best till now)
3. Main Map Size decreased from 7.72 MB to 7.09 MB (will get bigger [items /spells icons size and maybe an HD loading screen)
4. Check the First Page !!!!! You may be surprised
5. How was the BETA for you?

 

[T. D. W.]

We hitted the 2000 views!!!! Which was 1400 at the rejection of DotCa
Thanks to all of you


PS: plz comment I am feeling a bit alone

 

[Orcnet]

cool WIP, the idea for creeps spreading in level 1 towers is cool but maybe you should reinforce it a little bit? maybe add another tower or so. A scenario may end up like this:

-Pushing lanes(may it be top and middle) can eliminate level 1 tower in a matter of a few minutes so it will be a disastrous proportion.

So I guess the middle lane would be a jungling/boss kill region? that's a new sort to see and looks fine

 

[T. D. W.]

So basically you are telling me to remove the mid lanes ?
And can you explain more the desastrous proportion?

 

[Orcnet]

Its your choice of idea, but I don't see any reason to remove the middle lane its quite a different look

here's what can happen in my theory for the spreading creeps and level 1 tower position:

- pushing heroes(e.g summons, spell spams, micro on lanes) on either the top and middle or middle and bottom lanes can directly strike quickly on the level 1 tower. from about 3-5 minutes any possible aspect can break the level 1 tower/s easily.

But thanks to the before-spreading idea of creeps, that region can be defended in early minutes but when the pressure of heavy push and half-full geared enemy heroes, it can be a straight in.

So my idea can be:

- 2 towers for each level region

- Aura for slow movement speed(Its too imbalance but its just a concept)

- Give the tower AoE(Splash) base damage, don't give it characteristics of mortar, demolisher, glaive thrower, meat wagon-like it will convert the tower to only attack at far distance.

- When tower is in 40-50% life, give it an aura that either heals/exaggerated armor base/etc. to give more time in salvaging the tower


That's all for now

 

[T. D. W.]

Mmm; here is what i got:

- the creep spawning time should go up from 30 to 45 seconds cuz i realised than the 30 s creates gigantic waves of creeps in late game and the 60 s of dota is too long (1 wave/min wtf) so it's a half half

- the towers.... Lvl 1 and higher kill ranged creeps with one shot and melee creeps with 2, so basically a big ammount of creeps comming to one tower will not be exagerated with the theory of (maybe there ia one hero against you and ENEMY CREEPS ARE HERE FOR A REASON )

I have in mind to add something that can inmprove allied towers or maybe unimprove enemies' (how it will be like... Stay tuned..)

And finally, when testing, i saw something pretty interesting, i had destroy te top first 2 towers and left the lane, quicly after that, i saw enemy creeps in te top line at our tower!!! It was very interesting that the fact that when creeps are attacked by a tower the tower's wave of creeps will quicly strike back without any help of heroes

That's all for now except...

New hero [after the Beta versiom]
OI' the Wisp a remake of the Io of dota (just spell names guide to dota because i couldn't find proper ones)

 

[Daffa]

well, was playing yesterday but forgot to send the review + I'm just lazy yesterday

well, the only thing i can spot beside Orcnet's Opinion is the tooltips for Heroes, most of them aren't properly tooltipped, well that's all I can spot for now.

 

[T. D. W.]

well, was playing yesterday but forgot to send the review + I'm just lazy yesterday

well, the only thing i can spot beside Orcnet's Opinion is the tooltips for Heroes, most of them aren't properly tooltipped, well that's all I can spot for now.

I always leave those type of things to last (i usually change some states spell names and things like that (even if you noticed that the map is still called 1.02a and also in the game (in the upkeep place)

Another point that i would know your opinion about (the new heroes) how are they in your opinion?

 

[T. D. W.]

Update

ummm, i'll just show the CL, will be easier

DotCa V. 1.03 Return of the Lich King Changelog

Heroes:

The Lich King is arriving to DotCa.. thx for Kwaliti's model
the main hero of this version, and so for the next few ones, has been created

Dragon Knight replaced by Tank Commander
Furion Replaced with the Wisp
Sniper Replaced by the Naga Cobra
Axe the Mogul Khan is now Grom Hellscream the Axe Master
Bane Elemental has been replaced by daffa the mage
Rhasta the Shadow Shaman was replaced by a new hero: Sage the Light Revenant
Atropos the Bane Elemental has been replaced by a new hero: Daffa the Mage
Jah'rakal has been replaced by a new hero: Bow Sister
Tiny has been replaced by Thor Knight
Pugna was replaced by Dark Terror the Soul Keeper
Zeus the Lord of Olympia is now Zeus the Lightning God
Bradwarden the Centaur Warchief is now Caime the Tauren Khan, spells stay as they were
Huntik attributes rescaled: str: 20 +2.5, agi, 20 +2.5, int 0 +5, and base mana increased to 100
Zeus Thunder mechanic changed, now it is called thunder strike:
	shoots a thunder spear on a target unit when it hits the target it will create a great lightning damaging and stunning enemies in an AoE
Shadow Illidan Skin changed
Chupacabra Skin Changed and cast animation decreased to 0.000 s
Chaos Bolt Reworked; now calls down a meteor from the skys that damages units that step in the area it crossed
Fixed a bug with Warlord's Strength which does not trigger the cooldown of the spell
Hoof Stomp reworked, now called Echo Stomp, damages and stuns units within 375 AoE, affected units will generate another explosion on their location which deals minor damage and stuns units within 225 AoE
Return replaced by new spell, , makes Caime gain 1 strength for each unit he kills, 2 point and permanent if the killed unit is a hero and lasts 45 s if he isn't
Massive Axe damage bonus now pure and equal to 2.5/5/7.5/10% of Caime's Strength instead of 20%/40%/60%/80% bonus damage, Chance rescaled from 10/15/20/25 to 20%
Warlord's Strength damage multiplier decreased, hero damage decreased from 2/4/6x to 1.5/3/4.5x and self damage decreased from 1.5/3/4.5x to 1/2/3x, now it also stuns units within 550 AoE for 2/3/4 s
Shadris Base Attack Speed improved from 2.4 to 2.1 s
Shandris Astral Arrow Reworked; now called Astral Arrows, After 0.5 s cast time, fires arrows on enemy units in 375 AoE damaging them and pausing them (stun) [still unuseable by Traxex]
Shandris Arrow Rain changed; now called focus fire; Grants true sight and vision on target unit, both shandris and traxex will attack him and will have 250% AS bonus and max MS, if they die, attack another target, stop; the spell ends, Lasts 5/7/9/11 seconds max
Shadow Illidan's Skill: Faster than his shadow, was renamed to Darkholme, Icon Changed, AS bonus increased from 10/15/20/25/30% to 15/25/35/45/55%, effect changed
Changed Shadow illidan's Soul Drain for bug causes, replaced it with Soul Leech, leech for health and mana
Lightning Vortex Atract speed Bug Fixed
Lightning Vortex duration decreased from 3/6/9/12 to 3.5/5/6.5/8
Death Shield Dps increased from 10/20/30/40 to 15/30/45/60, damage effect changed
Ritual of the dead effect changed and cast time reduced from 4.4s to instant
Frostmourne wipe out chance increased from 2/3/4/5% to 4/6/8/10%
Changed Purge of Death Effect from a lane of Mana Flare Targets to a lightning effect
Eyes of the Warden duration increased from 3/5/7/9 to 5/7/9/11
Speed Break Ability being created to Anub'Seaker to reduce movement speed now removed, speed break now lasts 5/10/15 seconds even if Anub'Seaker dies during the duration
Fixed the Pause time calculation of Time Lapse which decreases by half the ammount of time it should be (x0.002>>x0.001)
Heal Manacost Rescaled from 125/150/175/200 to 125 and now causes a dispell in 225 AoE around the target
God's Strength now triggers on any damage from Aurius and the weird effect of the knockback has been removed, damage decreased from 25/50/75/100% to 16/32/48/64% of Strength
Empowering Light effect now is way better and damage is now based on intelligence for 25/30/35/40/45/50% of Intelligence
Chain of Dreams improved, no bugs anymore ;)
Berserker's Call damage per second increased to 50/150/90/100
Summon Titans Titans changes:
	-Assasin armor increased
	-Faceless One Animate Dead Removed, Bash Added
	-Forest Troll Warlord Trueshot aura improved, attack animation adjusted, damage set to 50-50, hp increased to 800
	-Dire Mammoth hp increased to 500, attack speed increased
	-Murloc Huntsman armor increased to 25, ensnare improved (+500 cast range, +5 s duration, +2 s cooldown)
	-Nerubian SpiderLord hidden spell improved
	-Ogre Lord armor increased to 15, Shockwave damage increased to 200, devaution aura armor increased to 4
	-Ice Revenant damage decreased
	-Salamandar Vizier armor increased
	-Gigantic Phoenix Armor changed to unarmored and increased to 10

Items:

Items Removed: Magic Stick, Magic Wand, Lightningfly
New Items: Bestial Bow, Greater Bow
Boots of Travel Traveling speed increased from 1s/2500 range to 1s/3000 range
Boots of Travel and Scroll of Town Portal Cooldown Increased from 30 to 45.
Flying Animal Courier abilities bug fixed, model changed, icon changed and burst ability changed

GamePlay:

Fixed a bug where the Ghouls ~ Zombies did not upgrade
Divine Armor damage reduction decreased from 5% to 10% for (spells, siege, pierce, normal and magic) from 4 to 12% for heroes and from 5 to 15% for chaos
Base Number of Melee Creeps decreased by 1
Ranged Creeps hp reduced: 300>200 / 475>350 / 1015> 850 hp
Melee Creeps hp reduced: 550>400 / 700>550 / 1300>1000
Base Bounty Award for Ranged and Melee Creeps reduced by 15
Biger Size Towers: lvl1: +15%,lvl2: +20%, lvl3: +25%, Ulti: +30%
Fixed a bug where the meat wagon does not attack buildings
Towers Improved, now they have:
	-level 1: +200 hp, +2 armor/1500 hp, 15 armor
	-level 2: +350 hp, +0 armor/1750 hp, 20 armor
	-level 3: +500 hp, +0 armor/2000 hp, 25 armor
	-Ultimate: +500 hp, +0 armor/2000 hp, 25 armor
Creeps Changed:
	Ghoul>Zombie
	Necromancer>Skeletal Mage
	Treant>They Stay (Reasonable no replacers found)
	Druid>Archer
Now, when the 2 towers guarding the frozen throne and the corrupted world tree are destroyed, the creeps won't be killed by a wave from the main buildings
The Fozen throne model changed to fit that the lich king has awaken
The Sentinels are now called the Ancients, and the Scourge are now called the Demons
Multiboard Improved, more colorful, and each player gets his own multiboard, fixed a bug where the multiboard tarded to show for other players than Blue
Secret Shop is now a flying shop which travels in the map, there are 2 flying shops for each force, 2 are visible for the first force and 2 others are visible to the other force, you may go to the old location of the secret shops to be helped finding the shops
Xp Gain Range increased from 1200 to 1500
Fixed a bug where a hero kill would count as a normal unit kill (Xp Gain)
Now Denies gives 75% less Xp than normal Kills (0% before)
Added a new Single Player command: -reveal : reveals the entire map
Fixed Bug Slowing game down when overusing single player commands
More stable game than before
Prevented that the game will slow down over the time (due to (3+1+1+1)x3x2 = 36 leaking points every 30 seconds [spawning])
now when you hit an enemy; blood appears and the attack will deal after 0.5/1/1.5 seconds 4/3/2% of damage dealt, only affects physical damage, does not trigger if damage is lower than 35.00
Attacking friends that have not a low hp is now allowed but the rules stay :p, damage goes down to 0 if the target's health is not low (depends on target)
NO BACKDOOR, if you attack a tower or a production structure without any non-mechanical unit within 850 range damage goes to 0 to prevent backdoor

Layout Changes:

Main Bases, reduced volume
Mid Lane Removed
Changed the Lane Types, now there are 2 lanes that start from the bases and then split out into 2 different lanes, for more information contace me
**All the Map Changed

Credits:
pWn3d, WILL THE ALMIGHTY, JetFangInferno, UgoUgo, Pyritie, Champara Bros, Darkholme, Pyramidhe@d, zadelim, looking_for_help, KWALITI
Please notice me if one of your creations is found in DotCa and you want credits for it

 

[meatfactory]

Oh great another dota, how original

 

[T. D. W.]

Oh great another dota, how original

it is not a dota anymore, read the last 2 pages, you'll find out

 

[T. D. W.]

New Hero

The Nevermore Hero has been replaced by a new one: Nichilus the Shadow Bringer

Hero

1.

Malixus
Leeches 3/5/7/9 mana per attack from the target, purely damages the target for the ammount of mana leeched, if the target's mana is less than the amount that should be leeched, it will create a shadow vein with the level of shadow vein
Can be activly used to burn 55/70/85/100 mana from a target

2.

Shadow veins
Passively gives 30% chance in attack to deal 20/35/50/65% AoE damage on attack in 225 AoE, if the target has no allies in the AoE, he will be dealt 2x the normal ammount of bonus damage, AoE affected units trigger malixus

3.

Priscama
Curses a target unit for 12 seconds, while under the effect of the curse, damage it takes will be counted, at the end of the spell, target will be dealt 15/20/25/30% of taken damage and be disabled for 3,5 seconds
Can be cast several times on single target to expand the duration of the spell

------> 3.1.

Release
------> Immediately ends all occurring Priscamas

6.

Shadow Release
After channeling for 1.5/1/0.5 seconds
Will release waves of shadows in 600/1050/1500 AoE
And will deal 150/175/200 damage to enemy ubits and paralyze them for 1/1.5/2 seconds

Can be upgraded by Aghanim's: (adds damage and slow)

6.

Shadow Release (Aghanim's Version)
After channeling for 1.5/1/0.5 seconds
Will release waves of shadows in 600/1050/1500 AoE
And will deal 200/275/350 damage to enemy ubits and paralyze them for 1/1.5/2 seconds and slow them for 35% MS and 25% MS for 5 seconds after they are hitten by the shadows

My own rating for this hero

 

[UndeadImmortal]

You should rename that Aghanim's Scepter.

 

[T. D. W.]

It will, but i haven't began with items yet

BETA 2 arriving for tomorrow if possible, if not, it will Thursday since tomorrow is a vacation for me

What's new in the Beta 2 from Beta 1:

2 New heroes
Fixed some spells, icons, description
Full Map Layout
Hostile Creeps added
Common Bug Fixes like:
No Xp Gain
No Revive dialog appearing
More detailed in the full Changelog

 

[DivineLight]

is it the heroes turn into hive member name?
nice Map, and if you work by yourself, that's awesome
I'll going to try this GJ JAD!!

 

[T. D. W.]

Thx, and yes, i made 2 heroes with names of users on hive (tank commander and daffa)

 

[UndeadImmortal]

is it the heroes turn into hive member name?
nice Map, and if you work by yourself, that's awesome
I'll going to try this GJ JAD!!

Uh, I'm sure it's Hive Arena which Hera_ created?

 

[DivineLight]

DotCa
will you make mine? kidding of course
nice, i'm in work at workshop so i will try it later..

UndeadImmortal
yes, but the Hive Arena is not out yet..

 

[T. D. W.]

I haven't opened hive's arena yet
The heroes are ALL AND ENTIRELY MY CREATIONS

 

[DivineLight]

I haven't opened hive's arena yet

how can you opened hive's arena? it's not out yet.. ~.~"

 

[UndeadImmortal]

I haven't opened hive's arena yet
The heroes are ALL AND ENTIRELY MY CREATIONS

Uh, we're talking about this: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/map-development-202/hive-arena-main-development-thread-234697/