Disable quick saving with F6 - Possible?

[FeelsGoodMan]

I have a map where regular saving is disabled by removing the "Save Game" button frame, but it's still possible to quick save with F6. One solution is to trigger an infinite loop with an OSKEY event, but I want something less... "intrusive". Any ideas?

 

[polardude]

try

Event:
OSKEY Event - F6 Key Pressed
Condition:
Action:
-Game - Pause game
-Wait 0.01 seconds
-Game - Unpause game

or

function InitTrig_DisableQuickSave takes nothing returns nothing   
local trigger t = CreateTrigger()   
call TriggerRegisterPlayerEventOsKey(t, Player(0), OSKEY_F6, true)   
call TriggerAddAction(t, function DisableQuickSave_Actions)
endfunction

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

try

Event:
OSKEY Event - F6 Key Pressed
Condition:
Action:
-Game - Pause game
-Wait 0.01 seconds
-Game - Unpause game

or

function InitTrig_DisableQuickSave takes nothing returns nothing  
local trigger t = CreateTrigger()  
call TriggerRegisterPlayerEventOsKey(t, Player(0), OSKEY_F6, true)  
call TriggerAddAction(t, function DisableQuickSave_Actions)
endfunction

Didn't work unfortunately, the game still saves.

 

[polardude]

Didn't work unfortunately, the game still saves.

did you try the jass one ?

if so then iam out of iders

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

did you try the jass one ?

if so then iam out of iders

I did not since my map is in Lua. Will it work if I just remove the "call" prefixes?

 

[polardude]

I did not since my map is in Lua. Will it work if I just remove the "call" prefixes?

it was just an ider to try to Disable f6

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

it was just an ider to try to Disable f6

Should have phrased my question differently. Since my map is in Lua mode, I asked if the map would compile with your JASS code, if I removed the "call" prefixes. It does not compile though, already tested. Got compilation errors, so I have to make a new Lua function the proper way instead. I'll see what I can do, and let you know if it works.

 

[polardude]

iam not sure if it can compile when it is in lua. the jass code was just an ider i had about your question about f6 not sure how to do it in lua sorry

 

[Uncle]

Should have phrased my question differently. Since my map is in Lua mode, I asked if the map would compile with your JASS code, if I removed the "call" prefixes. It does not compile though, already tested. Got compilation errors, so I have to make a new Lua function the proper way instead. I'll see what I can do, and let you know if it works.

Lua and JASS use the same API, it's the same old Warcraft 3 that you're used to.

It's just that different programming languages have different syntax rules:

function Test()
    local t = CreateTrigger()
    BlzTriggerRegisterPlayerKeyEvent(t, Player(0), OSKEY_F6, 0, true)
    TriggerAddAction(t, function()
        print("F6 pressed")
        PauseGameOn()
        TriggerSleepAction(0.2)
        PauseGameOff()
    end)
end

Anyway, polardude did not provide the DisableQuickSave_Actions function in his example so I added it in the above code. But like Polar said, this probably doesn't work even if you can get it to compile.

Another possible solution would be to disable the frame(s) related to saving.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Lua and JASS use the same API, it's the same old Warcraft 3 that you're used to.

It's just that different programming languages have different syntax rules:

function InitTrig_DisableQuickSave()
    local t = CreateTrigger()
    TriggerRegisterPlayerEventOsKey(t, Player(0), OSKEY_F6, true)
    TriggerAddAction(t, function()
        PauseGameOn()
        TriggerSleepAction(0.2)
        PauseGameOff()
    end)
end

Anyway, polardude did not provide the DisableQuickSave_Actions function in his example so I added it in the above code. But like Polar said, this probably doesn't work even if you can get it to compile.

Another possible solution would be to disable the frame(s) related to saving.

Thanks! Although, that didn't work unfortunately.

The solution I have come up with for now is to just ruin the quicksave file by removing units before it's saved, locking the camera, fading to black, and disabling all functions. That way, if they load the quicksave file, they just load into black nothingness. Kinda sucks, since the players unsaved progress will be lost, but that's a mistake they only do one time.

 

[Uncle]

Thanks! Although, that didn't work unfortunately.

The solution I have come up with for now is to just ruin the quicksave file by removing units before it's saved, locking the camera, fading to black, and disabling all functions. That way, if they load the quicksave file, they just load into black nothingness. Kinda sucks, since the players unsaved progress will be lost, but that's a mistake they only do one time.

It was the wrong Event, I updated the code. Although, the Pausing doesn't seem to work.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

It was the wrong Event, I updated the code. Although, the Pausing doesn't seem to work.

Ruining the save file it is then

 

[Uncle]

Ruining the save file it is then

How about manipulating the save at the time of pressing the hotkey?

Here I am trying to load the game:

function Test()
    local trigger = CreateTrigger()
    BlzTriggerRegisterPlayerKeyEvent(trigger, Player(0), OSKEY_F6, 0, true)
    TriggerAddAction(trigger, function()
        print("F6 pressed")
        LoadGameBJ( "LoadFile.w3z", false )
    end)
end

Maybe you can load an older save or something, unsure how this all works.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

How about manipulating the save at the time of pressing the hotkey?

Here I am trying to load the game:

function Test()
    local trigger = CreateTrigger()
    BlzTriggerRegisterPlayerKeyEvent(trigger, Player(0), OSKEY_F6, 0, true)
    TriggerAddAction(trigger, function()
        print("F6 pressed")
        LoadGameBJ( "LoadFile.w3z", false )
    end)
end

Maybe you can load an older save or something, unsure how this all works.

In what way does this manipulate the save file? I tried it, but the game saved fine, and I could load the generated save file. I see you attempt to load a file called LoadFile.w3z, but that didn't do anything I think.

As for loading an older save, sure, but a quicksave file will still be generated that players can load, making save scumming possible (or at least easier).

 

[Uncle]

In what way does this manipulate the save file? I tried it, but the game saved fine, and I could load the generated save file. I see you attempt to load a file called LoadFile.w3z, but that didn't do anything I think.

As for loading an older save, sure, but a quicksave file will still be generated that players can load, making save scumming possible (or at least easier).

You have to edit the code to work for your map since I don't know the name of your save files. That's just the load game function from GUI converted to code.

It's also just an idea. There are a bunch of actions related to saving/loading that you can experiment with.

Detecting the F6 hotkey gives you a way to intercept the quick save process, either before or after it generates the file.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

You have to edit the code to work for your map, I don't know the name of your save files. It's also just an idea. There are a plethora of actions related to saving/loading that you can experiment with.

Aha right, makes sense. Basically you're trying to load another save before the game can save a quicksave file?