Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[Vengeancekael]

Lol why did you use trees for the villagers that are going to explode in order to create the abomination, because when they died, there were dead trees XD

 

[CloudWolf]

Lol why did you use trees for the villagers that are going to explode in order to create the abomination, because when they died, there were dead trees XD

lol what? xD

That's something no one has encountered so far Are you in fact, referring to the rubble on the floor? Because that's not something we encountered in out testing :S

Are you telling me the 3 female villages who get sacrificed are appearing as trees for you? xD

Would you be able to provide a screen-shot of it

 

[Amigurumi]

I'd like a little more info please Does your camera shake permanently, and fall during cinematics? or are you just talking about the rate at which the camera follows the hero? In which case, I can just adjust the frequency of the trigger

for me, it shakes everytime I move my character. First I thought there was an endless earthquake D:

 

[CloudWolf]

for me, it shakes everytime I move my character. First I thought there was an endless earthquake D:

I see, so it's definitely not permanently shaking? and definitely not falling downwards during cinematics?

Because if neither of those are true then I'll be happy xD

 

[Vengeancekael]

Lol well no they weren't appearing as trees, but when they died, then there was this piece of a tree when the die(the trees i mean) and i'll provide you with some screenshots the next time.
Edit: lol i'm not sure why this happened: When i was fighting the siegebreaker, then i opened the inventory to place my potions in my belt and when i closed the inventory, then he was already dead:O (he had full hp)

 

[Amigurumi]

for me, the siege breaker was very fast down. the only problem was, that he made sometimes stomp-like attacks, and after them, my hero was almost dead...
I played as monk, (I don't know the name of the ability) is too overpowered. It was the ability with the purple slices. It did huge damage to the siegebreaker.

 

[CloudWolf]

for me, the siege breaker was very fast down. the only problem was, that he made sometimes stomp-like attacks, and after them, my hero was almost dead...
I played as monk, (I don't know the name of the ability) is too overpowered. It was the ability with the purple slices. It did huge damage to the siegebreaker.

Currently, the map contains an auto-balancing feature. So if your playing single-player, all the creeps will have 1/6 of their total HP, and the exp rate gets adjusted accordingly. For best playing results I'd recommend playing with a full-house on battle.net

Balancing a game to cope with 6 players and 1 player with the same game content is a hard task I'll be tweaking it for v1.20 depending on the feedback we get for the current version

perhaps an idea would be to decrease boss damage for single player, and increase their HP a bit so they last longer?

 

[Narrat0r]

You only need a talent tree and attachment system, and that's Diablo 3 made before Blizzard ;-)

 

[CloudMax]

The mana potion still have the normal potion icon in the full screen inventory ´
And i find the seven sided strike or w/e its named a little imbalanced.
In single player its like using an instant kill stomp 7 times killing all the waves of ghouls at start etc.

So Monk is now officially my new main! xD

 

[Vengeancekael]

Well i always thought that the seven sided strike ability would deal damage to one single target and not area damage with every move.

So Monk is now officially my new main! xD

Yeah i will now use him too, IMBA ftw^^

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

I think when Narrator is talking about the shaking camera he's referring to the same issue I mentioned already. The period in which the camera position is adapted to the hero's position is too low. Thus the camera will always follow you 1-2 frames later. And that looks like it is lagging.
Unfortunately there's little that can be done about this apart from reducing the period. I use a 0.0125second timer which is 80fps. Somehow I still can realize some lag when set to 0.015 but I guess that's because some kind of synchronization issue :<
(And yah, that eats quite a bit performance >.<)

 

[CloudMax]

I think when Narrator is talking about the shaking camera he's referring to the same issue I mentioned already. The period in which the camera position is adapted to the hero's position is too low. Thus the camera will always follow you 1-2 frames later. And that looks like it is lagging.
Unfortunately there's little that can be done about this apart from reducing the period. I use a 0.0125second timer which is 80fps. Somehow I still can realize some lag when set to 0.015 but I guess that's because some kind of synchronization issue :<
(And yah, that eats quite a bit performance >.<)

Yeah, it moves the camera to slow.
What im wondering is why the camera isnt locked to your hero, and then it manually changes the camera view. That way it will always be stuck to the character but still have the right camera view.

 

[CloudWolf]

Yeah, it moves the camera to slow.
What im wondering is why the camera isnt locked to your hero, and then it manually changes the camera view. That way it will always be stuck to the character but still have the right camera view.

I guess thats the way forward if we want a smoother camera Its a shame, because it means we wont be able to use the minimap to issue commands

I think when Narrator is talking about the shaking camera he's referring to the same issue I mentioned already. The period in which the camera position is adapted to the hero's position is too low. Thus the camera will always follow you 1-2 frames later. And that looks like it is lagging.
Unfortunately there's little that can be done about this apart from reducing the period. I use a 0.0125second timer which is 80fps. Somehow I still can realize some lag when set to 0.015 but I guess that's because some kind of synchronization issue :<
(And yah, that eats quite a bit performance >.<)

Thanks for finally giving me a straight answer lol Everyone else was like "Argh the camera's shaking" but didn't give any details

Im a little more relaxed now, its not as bad as I thought

 

[Amigurumi]

I guess thats the way forward if we want a smoother camera Its a shame, because it means we wont be able to use the minimap to issue commands

when I played, I didn't used the minimap, and I think it's better to 'disable' the minimap, so it prevents from clicking on the map, if you wanted to click elsewhere.
I also didn't look much on the minimap (well I played alone ), but in multiplayer it's important, to see other players, so you shouldn't remove it

 

[CloudMax]

In multiplayer your suppost to stay in group anyway
You should never get far away enough so that the group have to look on the mini-map.
I actually never use it myself and just want to cover it with an UI of the d3 logo or something and disable all the mini-map features xD

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Good news for you and me ;p

What im wondering is why the camera isnt locked to your hero, and then it manually changes the camera view. That way it will always be stuck to the character but still have the right camera view.

I had the same idea earlier today and tried around with that stuff now. And as it seems it is perfectly doable to lock the camera to the target so that the camera center will follow it with blizzards engine, which is smooth! That means there's no need of super high periods at all!
There still must be done some stuff with a periodic timer that still should have a kinda low frequency, like the angle of attack and the rotation. However that's yet a superb performance improvement and you gain a perfectly fine camera movement that won't be "shaky" anymore ;p

 

[Vengeancekael]

Why dont you make a minimap system and disable the warcraft minimap? XD

 

[Craka_J]

Or replace the minimap image with your own image (Diablo III WarCraft logo!)

 

[redmarine]

Well, it would be kinda troublesome to find people.

Anyway, I'm done with a feature to change the view between players once they're perma dead using left and right arrow keys. I think it'll prove to be a great addition.

 

[CloudMax]

or we could make a cooler looking mini-map, huh?
Like some kind of map like in wow insted, still same size and position and everything, just that it is a map making it look awesome x)
Im sure CloudWolf would be able to make some cool map xD

 

[redmarine]

or we could make a cooler looking mini-map, huh?
Like some kind of map like in wow insted, still same size and position and everything, just that it is a map making it look awesome x)
Im sure CloudWolf would be able to make some cool map xD

That's actually a great idea!

Should work on it.

 

[CloudWolf]

Fact is, the map lets you know where you are in relation to the game If players get separated, then the map helps them re-group

E.g. if a player is afk and chooses a characters 5 mins after everyone else, how are they going to know where to go? xD

We tried having a minimap pic for v1.15 i think it was, and it was just awkward to play nice idea though

 

[TwistedImage]

Is this map like a WC3 phenomeno(mnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnom)n?

 

[Craka_J]

English?

Minimap isn't really an issue the way it is right now. Just could be cooler.

 

[redmarine]

English?

Minimap isn't really an issue the way it is right now. Just could be cooler.

CloudWolf has just made it even cooler. You'll see.

 

[Vercas]

How about Fake Minimap? I'm using a system like that in my maps.
You have your own minimap and some dummies to be shown on the minimap. Heroes won't be shown.
Add more regions to detect the positions of heroes, and moving the dummies on the map.

 

[redmarine]

How about Fake Minimap? I'm using a system like that in my maps.
You have your own minimap and some dummies to be shown on the minimap. Heroes won't be shown.
Add more regions to detect the positions of heroes, and moving the dummies on the map.

I'm sure CloudWolf will show you the minimap soon.

 

[Vercas]

Ye', can't wait to see it.

 

[redmarine]

Anyone thinks we should add this?
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/spells-569/preventsave-disable-game-saving-149329/

 

[CloudMax]

Anyone thinks we should add this?
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/spells-569/preventsave-disable-game-saving-149329/

Yeah
Saving can cause glitches to the map and it is not recommended aswell.
And you should not have to save during this map anyway.

 

[Vercas]

You should also add another dialog saying "The game was not saved!" and some arguments.
Players will be annoyed when they hear a strange sound and the game doesn't save.

 

[redmarine]

You should also add another dialog saying "The game was not saved!" and some arguments.
Players will be annoyed when they hear a strange sound and the game doesn't save.

Sounds like an idea.

 

[Oziris]

I couldn't solo with the Monk :'(
The terrain is awesome. You my boy, are talented. Well, not really, it's blizzards terrain. The spells are great.

 

[Craka_J]

You forgot to include a screenshot of the Monk in the "Classes" tab in the first post.

 

[Amigurumi]

oh and about the monk:
can it be, that there are no items for the monk? he was able to wear everything (wizard,barbarian,witchdoctor), but there was no tooltip about monk.
Or are the items for him just under construction? and he can wear all items, so it's fair?

 

[CloudWolf]

oh and about the monk:
can it be, that there are no items for the monk? he was able to wear everything (wizard,barbarian,witchdoctor), but there was no tooltip about monk.
Or are the items for him just under construction? and he can wear all items, so it's fair?

I'm planning to make items non-class specific for the coming versions. Its just more hassle than its worth. For v1.20, you can expect a much better inventory system, and an array of new refined items

 

[Amigurumi]

maybe you can make the potions stackable? was very annoying to have only 4 potions in the inventory (hero inventory)

 

[CloudMax]

maybe you can make the potions stackable? was very annoying to have only 4 potions in the inventory (hero inventory)

Its suppost to be like in diablo. And in diablo 2, you had a specefic amount of belt slots, and you could not stack.
But this is something we should work on.

 

[Amigurumi]

well, you can mabye make it that you can max stack 5 potions. I always have to go fast in the big inventory, throw it in the small one, exit inventory and click on the potion

//Edit: oh, and maybe make the boss damage smaller, if you play in singleplayer. I was only able to kill the insect boss (the first one) with cheats. he casted rage, and I was down in less than 20 seconds, and I dealt him no damage. after I died, his life regneration healed his life to 100%.
So the only way to continue playing was cheating... sry D: ^^

 

[redmarine]

Its suppost to be like in diablo. And in diablo 2, you had a specefic amount of belt slots, and you could not stack.
But this is something we should work on.

Well, it wouldn't hurt to make potions stackable.

 

[CloudMax]

Well, it wouldn't hurt to make potions stackable.

I know

I just told the reason to why it is like it is.
Im not sure how potions is in diablo 3 now, but we should make it the same as in d3, if it is stackable items there, then it is stackable items in our map!

 

[wahahaha123]

It so cool

{EDIT 1}
I want to down this map. It is very interesting I think.

{EDIT 2}
This map is the most impressive Diablo map I have ever seen.

And the fact that you made this from a few gameplay videos is just amazing.
Really, this deserves a 5/5.

{EDIT 3}
Its suppost to be like in diablo. And in diablo 2, you had a specefic amount of belt slots, and you could not stack.
But this is something we should work on.

{EDIT 4}
well, you can mabye make it that you can max stack 5 potions. I always have to go fast in the big inventory, throw it in the small one, exit inventory and click on the potion

 

[Catch_ya]

Hey.. I just saw this model that was made out from a model in Diablo III i think you guys might needed it so i uploaded this link

Kazra warrior

EDIT:
Right now it maybe aint that good but its new uploaded so he might fix some of the things.

 

[redmarine]

Wahahaha123, you might consider merging those messages into 1 post. As it stands now you can get seriously punished by the site moderators.

Hey.. I just saw this model that was made out from a model in Diablo III i think you guys might needed it so i uploaded this link

Kazra warrior

EDIT:
Right now it maybe aint that good but its new uploaded so he might fix some of the things.

Yeah that would be awesome if it looked more like the one in the gameplay trailer. Perhaps a new skin would help. =D

 

[Catch_ya]

What you mean ?:S how i do that ?

 

[redmarine]

What you mean ?:S how i do that ?

You could check the skin/texturing section or ask people in the chat.

 

[Craka_J]

The Kazra Warriors should've been based off of the Felguard model instead of the Tauren Cheiftain IMO.

 

[redmarine]

The Kazra Warriors should've been based off of the Felguard model instead of the Tauren Cheiftain IMO.

Hmm, valid point considering that the animations will fit.

 

[Catch_ya]

Yea it looks really bad but it was just for helping ^^ hm this has been updated to 1.19 is their new inventory in this new version ?

 

[redmarine]

Yea it looks really bad but it was just for helping ^^ hm this has been updated to 1.19 is their new inventory in this new version ?

Well, thank you anyway. Perhaps CloudWolf can just make a new texture for it or something as it'll be a lot better than what we got at the moment. =D

Nah, the new inventory system will be in version 1.20 since it'll take some time to implement and make sure it works.