Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[CloudWolf]

Woohoo! Sure do it.



This is not true as it does require newgen. Move the question down there.

P.S. Congratulations CloudWolf! Your map is the first one to ever beach the 10.000 download mark in a single month! [applaud]

Weell.... to play it you won't, but to edit it you will I'll make sure thats clarified a tad better

and ty! ^^

As for the emails, if you PM your current email, I can make anything sent to the Diablo3warcraft.com one forward emails to you

 

[CloudMax]

The new mail is much cooler then the one i currently have.
Sure, make it so that it comes to my current mail also =)
Can i set my own password for it? And will you be able to see the password i have if i change it? :O

Add a contact list containing our diablo3warcraft adresses so people can contact us if they want to ask something and is not a member of hive.

You should also add that the map is open source and that anyone can edit it if they give credits to the original creators. Its just one thing, i dont want my inventory system to be open source. Atleast people could ask me befor using it when it comes into the map.

Edit:
I see that you fixed the contact mails. =D

 

[saphiree]

awesome atlast a link to the homepage!

Btw. You should make somewhere on your homepage where ppl can discuss about it. I dont want to go off topic. But i cant post this at the homepage XD

 

[CloudWolf]

Aye, well, ive contected Ralle, and hes forwarded my project hosting request to Ghan04. I posted a request in the forum before, but it didnt get a reply xD

If all goes well, we will get our own forum on the hive, which I'll link to from the site

Theres no point in making another forum for diablo3warcraft.com if we've got one here ^^

 

[redmarine]

Some of the text in our information boxes regarding our position in our team are centered. Shouldn't these be set to the left like yours? Btw, the FAQ looks epic now nicely done.

Will we be able to use the accounts over Live Messenger? It would give it a nice touch.

Btw, shouldn't we try to snap the position as the 3rd most downloaded map before the end of the month?

 

[CloudWolf]

Some of the text in our information boxes regarding our position in our team are centered. Shouldn't these be set to the left like yours? Btw, the FAQ looks epic now nicely done.

Will we be able to use the accounts over Live Messenger? It would give it a nice touch.

Btw, shouldn't we try to snap the position as the 3rd most downloaded map before the end of the month?

I dont think it can the URL is just an Alias, and thus, doesnt have its own hosting features :S

I dont really know for sure though, let me investigate!

 

[CloudMax]

My mail is [email protected] as you know.
It would be nice if we could use them on Live Messenger :]

Just 400 more downloads until we reach 3rd most downloaded.

 

[CloudWolf]

oh wow xD I just tested it and it works Just create a new account with that email lol

yea! exciting stuff isnt it 10,000 downloads in less than a month xD thats like a few hundred per day so far

EDIT: Your emails are now set up and ready to use

 

[redmarine]

oh wow xD I just tested it and it works Just create a new account with that email lol

yea! exciting stuff isnt it 10,000 downloads in less than a month xD thats like a few hundred per day so far

EDIT: Your emails are now set up and ready to use

I received the email. Great job!

 

[CloudMax]

I received the email. Great job!

awesome =)

 

[redmarine]

awesome =)

Have you finished 'descripting' all the items? It would become handy soon.

 

[CloudMax]

Have you finished 'descripting' all the items? It would become handy soon.

Uhmm... actually forgot it. I havent got so much free time this week. Home test, home work, tests in school tommorow its a special day in school but then im free from the school for the rest of the week and i will get some time to work on it.
As you know i used my free time to test TcX, lol.

 

[redmarine]

Hehe yeah. It's alright.

The system is now compatible with 2 players! The rest of the compatibility will be done once the reviving system is fully functional. <=== LTGH's department hehe...

 

[Yixx]

I have to say, the progress is amazing! That site is like: =O W00t! An own site! And i heard blizzard itself contacted you? I guess i can only say: Omg! You guys do an amazing job! =D,, keep up the work!
Unfortunately, i cant test this map for you, not becuz i dont want to, or i dont have time, but for the simple reason that MY COMPUTER SUCKS BROKEN BALLS IN DAYLIGHT AND EVEN DURING NIGHT! >=[,, i even lagged at the introduction cinematic thing,,
But i had a look at the video,, and tested my patience while playing for about 15 minutes,, but then i was about where you guys would be in 5 mins,,
but w/e,, you guys do a great job!
(Dont think the map is lagging, my computer REALLY sucks, it is cuz of the video card and also a not too big memory,, i got a laptop so i cant replace the video card,,
but i also lagg at Line Tower Wars,, so dont mind it )

Though, i wonder,, how do you keep the map multi-player when you want to add maps to it (like a campaign,, or is it not like that? Cuz that was what i thought was meant in the description in the site)

 

[saphiree]

I can tell. This map dont lag, just so you all know.

And yeah your comp must suck alot XD I have really crappy one and i only lag little.
But just so all know. It doesent lag ;D (unless theres a leak im unaware off XD)

 

[CloudMax]

I have to say, the progress is amazing! That site is like: =O W00t! An own site! And i heard blizzard itself contacted you? I guess i can only say: Omg! You guys do an amazing job! =D,, keep up the work!
Unfortunately, i cant test this map for you, not becuz i dont want to, or i dont have time, but for the simple reason that MY COMPUTER SUCKS BROKEN BALLS IN DAYLIGHT AND EVEN DURING NIGHT! >=[,, i even lagged at the introduction cinematic thing,,
But i had a look at the video,, and tested my patience while playing for about 15 minutes,, but then i was about where you guys would be in 5 mins,,
but w/e,, you guys do a great job!
(Dont think the map is lagging, my computer REALLY sucks, it is cuz of the video card and also a not too big memory,, i got a laptop so i cant replace the video card,,
but i also lagg at Line Tower Wars,, so dont mind it )

Though, i wonder,, how do you keep the map multi-player when you want to add maps to it (like a campaign,, or is it not like that? Cuz that was what i thought was meant in the description in the site)

When we say that we are going to make more maps, they are going to be separated. But in map two the players should start with about level 15. And when we have done many maps enough people will have to use save/load to level up their characters by going through all of our maps.

And good luck on the pokemon project! I have followed it for a while but i think you have noticed that i posted in the thread a few times already :]

 

[arthas_king]

The....Site.....Owns....Ballz!Amazing work cloud i wanna explore it and check it all!Just amazing!

 

[CloudMax]

The....Site.....Owns....Ballz!Amazing work cloud i wanna explore it and check it all!Just amazing!

Is it.... good.... if it own.... ballz? Just wondering :S
I dont want the site to own balls, that means that its a male and i dont want to sit here checking around a male the entire day O.O''

Anyway........... Have you done any progress Cloud? Same with you RedMarine. I will fixing the item descriptions tommorow night and then i will have time for almost the rest of the week!

 

[redmarine]

Is it.... good.... if it own.... ballz? Just wondering :S
I dont want the site to own balls, that means that its a male and i dont want to sit here checking around a male the entire day O.O''

Anyway........... Have you done any progress Cloud? Same with you RedMarine. I will fixing the item descriptions tommorow night and then i will have time for almost the rest of the week!

I made the system 1/3rd mui lol... I hate myself but each transaction takes 30 minutes meaning I still have 4 to go...

I got an idea... I could further optimize the triggers so it'll only take 5 minute each. I'll test this idea.

 

[CloudWolf]

Well, on my part, theres not much to do until the inventory is in :S I dont wanna make some fixes, only to have to do them again when you hand me the version with the inventory

We need to be really carefull now, or we're gonna end up having several versions all with different changes on them xD We really want to be passing round only one copy of the map to stop this from happening

I've got a list of stuff that needs fixing, so as soon as I get the map with the inventory back, I'll do the fixes

oooh btw, The_Silent has rejoined the team, and hes gonna help us make some more spells

 

[redmarine]

Well, on my part, theres not much to do until the inventory is in :S I dont wanna make some fixes, only to have to do them again when you hand me the version with the inventory

We need to be really carefull now, or we're gonna end up having several versions all with different changes on them xD We really want to be passing round only one copy of the map to stop this from happening

I've got a list of stuff that needs fixing, so as soon as I get the map with the inventory back, I'll do the fixes

oooh btw, The_Silent has rejoined the team, and hes gonna help us make some more spells

I raised the waters hight to fix the graphical erretation or whatever it's called.

I'll send you my latest version so you can personally see what I've been battling all along. The messy camera that is. Ask the creator for a way to totally disable the til-camera for one specific player.

 

[Yixx]

I can tell. This map dont lag, just so you all know.

And yeah your comp must suck alot XD I have really crappy one and i only lag little.
But just so all know. It doesent lag ;D (unless theres a leak im unaware off XD)

Ya,, it really sucks,, but it is not the game that laggs, i sometimes even lagg at a flash game =\,, so i guess it is the CPU or something,, but w/e this is not the place to discuss that,,

@LTGH: Ya i have seen it,, i like it that people post some ideas sometimes, but i appreciate it when they stick to it a little longer ,,

Back on topic: Not one friggin thing that could be improved here,, but i guess that is cuz i cant test it good enough,, i think ill take a look at my friends computer one of these days >:],, but expect me to come back with feedback from a GOOD computer! ^^



Some time,,

 

[redmarine]

Ya,, it really sucks,, but it is not the game that laggs, i sometimes even lagg at a flash game =\,, so i guess it is the CPU or something,, but w/e this is not the place to discuss that,,

@LTGH: Ya i have seen it,, i like it that people post some ideas sometimes, but i appreciate it when they stick to it a little longer ,,

Back on topic: Not one friggin thing that could be improved here,, but i guess that is cuz i cant test it good enough,, i think ill take a look at my friends computer one of these days >:],, but expect me to come back with feedback from a GOOD computer! ^^



Some time,,

Well, we do have some areas which we could improve

Old Screenies
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/138637-albums1422-picture10890.png

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/138637-albums1422-picture10767.png

It's quite bright in the current build.

EDIT: The layout for all players has been placed on the map. As soon as I fix the reviving system I'll make the entire system MUI.

 

[CloudMax]

Well, we do have some areas which we could improve

Old Screenies
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/138637-albums1422-picture10890.png

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/138637-albums1422-picture10767.png

It's quite bright in the current build.

EDIT: The layout for all players has been placed on the map. As soon as I fix the reviving system I'll make the entire system MUI.

Thats awesome! I cant wait for it to get finished =D

I got sick this night and that means that im not in school. So i think i will have some time to work on the mutliboards, we will see what happens.

 

[CloudWolf]

Thats awesome! I cant wait for it to get finished =D

I got sick this night and that means that im not in school. So i think i will have some time to work on the mutliboards, we will see what happens.

Wow... what a coincidence xD I woke up this morning, was about to go out the door, and had to rush back in to throw up :S lol Maybe theres an outbreak of something?

Back on topic, its all coming together now pretty soon we might have a final build, which means we can finally start making the second map ^^

 

[CloudMax]

Wow... what a coincidence xD I woke up this morning, was about to go out the door, and had to rush back in to throw up :S lol Maybe theres an outbreak of something?

Back on topic, its all coming together now pretty soon we might have a final build, which means we can finally start making the second map ^^

We will keep working on the inventory even after the release. It has a lot of stuff that can be done. Like Inspect for example, players can look in each others inventorys. And some small stuff like that.
BTW Cloud, The inventory doesnt have a good "Drop item button" as you maybe have noticed in the last few pictures, its just a empty slot button on the left bottom of the inventory, maybe you could make a better one?

 

[CloudWolf]

We will keep working on the inventory even after the release. It has a lot of stuff that can be done. Like Inspect for example, players can look in each others inventorys. And some small stuff like that.
BTW Cloud, The inventory doesnt have a good "Drop item button" as you maybe have noticed in the last few pictures, its just a empty slot button on the left bottom of the inventory, maybe you could make a better one?

Sure I'll see what I can do

EDIT: Taadaa! Literally just a down arrow with the same old border

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=3oxdsl

 

[CloudMax]

Sure I'll see what I can do

EDIT: Taadaa! Literally just a down arrow with the same old border

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=3oxdsl

Looks funny and good at the same time xD
We will for sure use that insted!

Btw, why is the our profile information on the website centered when your isnt? :O And Redmarines and my Garena ID isnt on the same row

 

[CloudWolf]

Looks funny and good at the same time xD
We will for sure use that insted!

Btw, why is the our profile information on the website centered when your isnt? :O And Redmarines and my Garena ID isnt on the same row

Really? :S What broswer are you using cus it looks fine on mine xD

I'll take a look at the coding and make sure everything is alligned correctly

 

[CloudMax]

Really? :S What broswer are you using cus it looks fine on mine xD

I'll take a look at the coding and make sure everything is alligned correctly

Internet Explorer.

 

[CloudWolf]

Internet Explorer.

hmmm.... how bout now? I made sure it was all alligned left

 

[CloudMax]

hmmm.... how bout now? I made sure it was all alligned left

It works. :]
Anyway, if you want me to add any specefic items to the new system, just tell me. Remember to decrease the item stats MUCH now since that now you will be able to wield more then two weapons, two armors and Two Other.

You shold try to make so that the pictures popup like on Diablo3Warcraft.com. That would be awesome =)

 

[redmarine]

Internet Explorer.

Firefox 3 showed it as well.

CloudWolf, is it time to change the banner? You've launched a new website after all.

EDIT: Great news! I got the reviving system to work! I need further testing to confirm if it is fully operational but we're very close to finishing it now.

 

[saphiree]

I played this map again after long time and i found some minor things you could improve. I dint play the whole map cus my parents freaked, but i have theese two things.

1. There are several items in the map which gives minor/moderate/greater mana/life bonusses. I dont really know how much it is they give, so maybe you could write how much extra life/mana they give per sec.
2.Maybe you could change the names of agillity and intelligence to some more diablo like stats? agillity could be Dextrity or Vitality and intelligence could be Energy. This is taken from Diablo II and maybe theres some new stats in Diablo III. I dont know. But just a suggestion.

 

[CloudMax]

I played this map again after long time and i found some minor things you could improve. I dint play the whole map cus my parents freaked, but i have theese two things.

1. There are several items in the map which gives minor/moderate/greater mana/life bonusses. I dont really know how much it is they give, so maybe you could write how much extra life/mana they give per sec.
2.Maybe you could change the names of agillity and intelligence to some more diablo like stats? agillity could be Dextrity or Vitality and intelligence could be Energy. This is taken from Diablo II and maybe theres some new stats in Diablo III. I dont know. But just a suggestion.

As for the stats, we dont really have a reason to change it since we wont modify the bonuses they give and the names of them explains exactly what they do

And the items. Maybe you get Health/Mana becouse of the Strength/Intelligence?
It would also be pointless to work on the old items cus we are making the new inventory system.

 

[saphiree]

And the items. Maybe you get Health/Mana becouse of the Strength/Intelligence?

Think you misunderstood me. There stands at the items they give a minor bonus for excample. But how much IS a minor bonus? is ir 1/2/3 bonus mana per sec?
But as you say, you're making inventory system atm. So maybe it doesent matter, tho it would be good to see in the new inventory system

 

[CloudMax]

Think you misunderstood me. There stands at the items they give a minor bonus for excample. But how much IS a minor bonus? is ir 1/2/3 bonus mana per sec?
But as you say, you're making inventory system atm. So maybe it doesent matter, tho it would be good to see in the new inventory system

The inv system will have much better descriptions since we have an entire multiboard to use for the description.

 

[redmarine]

The inv system will have much better descriptions since we have an entire multiboard to use for the description.

Orbs do not provide any descriptions at all. We will probably have to write the amount of health/mana each orbs provides in the item description text box.

The inventory is facing some slowdowns as I'm trying to further optimize it in case we have to change some 'underthehood' functions. This may or will reduce painstakingly long time it might take to apply them to all players, but you will still have to do some changes manually.

CloudWolf, would it be okay if I let you in change of the item setup for the inventory? It'll provide you with the necessary skills needed to use such a system. It's somewhat user-friendly.

 

[CloudMax]

CloudWolf, would it be okay if I let you in change of the item setup for the inventory? It'll provide you with the necessary skills needed to use such a system. It's somewhat user-friendly.

Now i remember why i asked CW to come online on MSN today..
I was about to ask him what items and stats he wanted & if he wanted to create the item multiboards himself.
Since that isnt really my part, my part is to create the system, not the items involved with it, the first items i made was just to test the system and see so that everything worked.

 

[redmarine]

Now i remember why i asked CW to come online on MSN today..
I was about to ask him what items and stats he wanted & if he wanted to create the item multiboards himself.
Since that isnt really my part, my part is to create the system, not the items involved with it, the first items i made was just to test the system and see so that everything worked.

There is no reason to create items as the map already contains a lot of items. You should only create the multiboard and then the inventory will do the rest with some minor adjustments.

 

[CloudMax]

There is no reason to create items as the map already contains a lot of items. You should only create the multiboard and then the inventory will do the rest with some minor adjustments.

All i can keep in the items is the name, icon and description. But all the stats have to be redone since you can have much more items now.

BTW, we should make "Item" contests later there people can sign up and show us a item and what it does and the 3 best items get added ingame. (Less work for us, more people gets happy and can be a part of the map xP)
We just have to make a quest in the questlog like this:

[Contests]
Item contest #1
Winner = CloudWolf
Item = CloudCloak

Item contest #2
Winner = RedMarine
Item = Unfriendly Fire
-----------------------

Ofc we cant enter the contests but this is just an example...

 

[Super-Sheep]

Weapon that gives % chance to increase attackspeed on an attack. Or armor that has a chance to increase armor when taking damage.

 

[CloudMax]

Weapon that gives % chance to increase attackspeed on an attack. Or armor that has a chance to increase armor when taking damage.

What was you commenting on? Im allways getting confused when people dont quote things >.<

 

[GooS]

3/5 If it was a finished map, since it's a beta i'll go with 4/5

+Terrain is great
+Diablo feeling*

And that's about all I got on the big plus side.

-Booring abilities
-Unbalanced
-Diablo feeling*

Anyone that reads this should also know that I did not play it in multiplayer, in multiplayer many of the negative sides go away.

But seriously, in single player one has to kite tha F around with the bigger mobs, the mana waits are killing me and the need for "rage" with the barbarian made me cry.
*Diablo was and still is as it seems from the trailer all about slaughter, even as a single hero, but the mobs have to much health and even the smaller mobs take to much damage for that to really come true. Yeah sure, when you have mana/'rage' for spells you can own anything in range rather fast, but more often than not I got closed in with nowhere to go with no mana and health becoming a serious issue, the health orbs laughin at you on the other side of a wall of ghouls.
However the feeling of the terrain and the atmosphere with all thoose mobs closing up on you is pure Diablo.

Recommendation for improvement (imo), don't make the orbs Items, make it so that sometimes when you kill a unit a dummy unit appears and casts a healing spell at you, with a slow missile speed so one can see an orb of health/mana/both closing in.
Cus even if you got enough mana for a spell, the gap in units filled up faster than I could get through and the orbs would still be stuck on the other side. Also, units laugh at you as the place themselves infront of the orbs making them 'impossible' to click.

I have NOT read through comments so I don't know what other people think or what you are already planning to change etc.

 

[redmarine]

I doubt I will be able to finish the inventory soon. I've just notices that it's getting very complicated and huge. I'll try to finish most of it if not all tomorrow. It might take 2 hours of constant work...

 

[CloudMax]

3/5 If it was a finished map, since it's a beta i'll go with 4/5

+Terrain is great
+Diablo feeling*

And that's about all I got on the big plus side.

-Booring abilities
-Unbalanced
-Diablo feeling*

Anyone that reads this should also know that I did not play it in multiplayer, in multiplayer many of the negative sides go away.

But seriously, in single player one has to kite tha F around with the bigger mobs, the mana waits are killing me and the need for "rage" with the barbarian made me cry.
*Diablo was and still is as it seems from the trailer all about slaughter, even as a single hero, but the mobs have to much health and even the smaller mobs take to much damage for that to really come true. Yeah sure, when you have mana/'rage' for spells you can own anything in range rather fast, but more often than not I got closed in with nowhere to go with no mana and health becoming a serious issue, the health orbs laughin at you on the other side of a wall of ghouls.
However the feeling of the terrain and the atmosphere with all thoose mobs closing up on you is pure Diablo.

Recommendation for improvement (imo), don't make the orbs Items, make it so that sometimes when you kill a unit a dummy unit appears and casts a healing spell at you, with a slow missile speed so one can see an orb of health/mana/both closing in.
Cus even if you got enough mana for a spell, the gap in units filled up faster than I could get through and the orbs would still be stuck on the other side. Also, units laugh at you as the place themselves infront of the orbs making them 'impossible' to click.

I have NOT read through comments so I don't know what other people think or what you are already planning to change etc.

Have you even seen a "Hack and slash" map in Warcraft 3? Its pretty damn impossible to create a map with the same gameplay feeling as in diablo.
Warcraft 3 is created to have a few units with much hp. And that makes it harder for us to customise it to be so fast. If we spawned about 200 "murlocs" and your able to just use a whirl wind through all of them its pretty hard to make that balanced, its nearly impossible.
What about rating the map after you know the faqs that this map wasnt originally suppost to be a replica of diablo 3? It was just suppost to have contents from the gameplay videos.

 

[kitantage]

Trouble with doors and chests

I've got a newbish question, how do I open chests and doors? I'm not very familiar with Warcraft 3, but love the idea of a Diablo 3 mod as I'm a big fan of the series. So far from what I've played, this mod delivers a nice substitute until the game is released.

 

[CloudWolf]

Have you even seen a "Hack and slash" map in Warcraft 3? Its pretty damn impossible to create a map with the same gameplay feeling as in diablo.
Warcraft 3 is created to have a few units with much hp. And that makes it harder for us to customise it to be so fast. If we spawned about 200 "murlocs" and your able to just use a whirl wind through all of them its pretty hard to make that balanced, its nearly impossible.
What about rating the map after you know the faqs that this map wasnt originally suppost to be a replica of diablo 3? It was just suppost to have contents from the gameplay videos.

Aye, I'll admit, the project has somewhat evolved since I started it But, all criticism is welcome We'll try our best to make the gameplay faster and less dependant on there being a healer

For 1.18, I'm going to rebalance the orb drops to make players less dependant on healing abilities Lets face it, in the current build the whole team is screwed if theres no healer

As for adding items, ide be more than happy to If you guys can give me some sort of template, I'de be happy to import all the items in the new inventory

Also, that contest you mentioned sounds like a really nice idea Would definately help to keep the interest

 

[CloudMax]

Aye, I'll admit, the project has somewhat evolved since I started it But, all criticism is welcome We'll try our best to make the gameplay faster and less dependant on there being a healer

For 1.18, I'm going to rebalance the orb drops to make players less dependant on healing abilities Lets face it, in the current build the whole team is screwed if theres no healer

As for adding items, ide be more than happy to If you guys can give me some sort of template, I'de be happy to import all the items in the new inventory

Also, that contest you mentioned sounds like a really nice idea Would definately help to keep the interest

Just talk with me on MSN and i tell you exactly what to do.
At the moment all you have to do is the multiboards for the items and that shouldent be to hard for you, i just have to explain some small stuff.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Eheeheh very nice, I tried it and it looks very Diablo3-ish. Really well made, has the feeling of D3 to some extent indeed. Aren't the ud ghouls better than murloc?? And indeed... there'd better be spells with 1 second cooldown or 0.5 seconds, diablo III will never have such cooldowns there. 'This item is cannot be carried by ...' rather 'This item cannot be carried by ..' ; larger inventory, many made such systems etc. These are my notes on the map. As the others said, I also think the terrain is beyond perfect, that's what's giving this map the awesomeness. Again it's not diablo if it doesnt have 0.5 1 second cooldowns.