Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[CloudMax]

I mean that i could choose my heros level and items before the actual battle and that way i was able to balance everything, but i never did balance it, it ended up in some fights and then the trash.

 

[GooS]

Got tired of that mountain giant so I made a skin that could be used for The Unburied, tell me if you want it and I'll upload it.

+Look better than the mountain giant
+It has real horns
+/- will fix the body faces so don't get so smudged
-It's additional filesize to the map
-It doesn't really look like unburied, but still better than Mountain Giant

 

[CloudMax]

Got tired of that mountain giant so I made a skin that could be used for The Unburied, tell me if you want it and I'll upload it.

+Look better than the mountain giant
+It has real horns
+/- will fix the body faces so don't get so smudged
-It's additional filesize to the map
-It doesn't really look like unburied, but still better than Mountain Giant

It needs some work and i think that there is models that could fit in better if using custom skin. AND the maps file size has almost reached the top.

 

[GooS]

It needs some work and i think that there is models that could fit in better if using custom skin

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AND the maps file size has almost reached the top.

Contradicts eachother, A skin takes less space than a complete model plus skin, hence I offered this skin. A diablo model could work wonders with a custom skin for The Unburied. Yes it need a bit more detail which is why I'm working on it as we speak

 

[CloudMax]

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Contradicts eachother, A skin takes less space than a complete model plus skin, hence I offered this skin. A diablo model could work wonders with a custom skin for The Unburied. Yes it need a bit more detail which is why I'm working on it as we speak

I was talking about changing to another warcraft 3 model that may look even better with custom skin. And i cant see anything that makes that look like an Unburied, seriusly :S
Practice, better model choices, more detail & it might end up with something awesome =)

We are on page 13(3)7 =D
For the LET! Just 1200 more pages to go now!

 

[GooS]

I was talking about changing to another warcraft 3 model that may look even better with custom skin. And i cant see anything that makes that look like an Unburied, seriusly :S
Practice, better model choices, more detail & it might end up with something awesome =)

There is not better model choices, the model of choice for something big, fat and rotting would be Abomination, which I thought of using, but it has no horns at all, making it necessary to use attachments, which might be possible through triggers and spiked carapace model, however the spell effect attachments are often oversized making them hower a good feet from the model. It might look more like an unburied than mine but I chose to try with this model. Mostly actually because abominations are already in use on your map.

Abomination model:

The same stance
Same head

Owlbeast:

Horns
The big hands
The correct physic, more muscles then fat, upper torso big instead of the stomach of abomination.

 

[SuperCoke]

one word Cloud, Fucking Epic

I played this, and i have to say, its awsome. Gj man, you made one of the most popular maps ever made.

 

[Dentothor]

This map is positivley epic! This map is just warcraft orgasm!!! 10000/5!
If you want or need any improvments on the map or any icon artworks or cinematic improvments i would be incredibly glad to help

 

[Darkholme]

Have you considered making all the creatures spawn dynamically via scripts? If you did that you could scale it based on the number of players, for a better control on difficulty.

 

[saphiree]

Have you considered making all the creatures spawn dynamically via scripts? If you did that you could scale it based on the number of players, for a better control on difficulty.

I think thats a good idea
Also, that unburied model, i think its way better than the mountain giant. If it wasnt because you needed more space in the map i would recommend you to use it

It looks great, but LTGH says something when he says its not looking that much like the unburied from Diablo III official homepage.

 

[hermie1]

yeah the map is nice and the camera could not go anywhere else except to your character because some people cheat iseedeadpeople and now its very exciting traps surprise attacks pretty nice

 

[CloudWolf]

Got tired of that mountain giant so I made a skin that could be used for The Unburied, tell me if you want it and I'll upload it.

+Look better than the mountain giant
+It has real horns
+/- will fix the body faces so don't get so smudged
-It's additional filesize to the map
-It doesn't really look like unburied, but still better than Mountain Giant

oh wow

Ive gotta say, the skin is really nice, however, as LTGH says, the shape just doesnt fit an unburied :S

For final release, Tyrael isnt going to be in the map, so we can always use the extra 1mb of space he will give us on a few more skins, or music We'll just have to see what we can spare

 

[GooS]

Ive gotta say, the skin is really nice, however, as LTGH says, the shape just doesnt fit an unburied :S

Yeah, god I wish I could make models, I would model the crap out of the Unburied.

Anyways gonna submit it as random monster as I've fixed the smudge body faces and added some detail.

 

[CloudMax]

We can use Abomination as model, and i rather see him without horns then that "thing" with horns You just need to do a small trick to change skin on the unburied and keep the old one for the boss. Or well, if we remove tyrael we can give thousend punder a texture AND the unburied a texture too! I remember seeing an awesome Thousand Pounder model on wc3c but maybe its not for public and only used in the other D3 map.

 

[saphiree]

Remember that much of the space tyrael takes will probably be needed for the other heroes when that time comes :S

 

[CloudMax]

Remember that much of the space tyrael takes will probably be needed for the other heroes when that time comes :S

I know, i know. But tyrael takes like 1MB and a model normaly takes about 200/300kb so we will have some space to add some features, and if you ask me the main characters/bosses is kinda important, but the bosses is just an option.

This is some stuff that i think can be nice to have in our map too, used in D3: The Fallen Angel.
Ghoul
Thousand Pounder
Animation Thousand Pounder 1
Animation Thousand Pounder 2
Animation Thousand Pounder 3
Its still in progress!

 

[saphiree]

I can open any of those links. It says "vBullitin messeage. Invalid address" or something.
Anyway, Blizzard is prop gonna make like 3-4 new classes, and then you will need all tyraels 1mb i guess?

 

[CloudMax]

I can open any of those links. It says "vBullitin messeage. Invalid address" or something.

Ops.. Copyed the links with ... inside it, i update in a min.

Anyway, Blizzard is prop gonna make like 3-4 new classes, and then you will need all tyraels 1mb i guess?

Yes and THEN we remove the models/skins.. But why dont use it when we have the space? It doesnt make sense to not use it.

Barbarian spells:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilbrzIOeY1Y
Created by emjlr3. I love the Charge & Leap abilitys he made. I hope he releases it to the public.

 

[CloudWolf]

I know, i know. But tyrael takes like 1MB and a model normaly takes about 200/300kb so we will have some space to add some features, and if you ask me the main characters/bosses is kinda important, but the bosses is just an option.

This is some stuff that i think can be nice to have in our map too, used in D3: The Fallen Angel.
Ghoul
Thousand Pounder
Animation Thousand Pounder 1
Animation Thousand Pounder 2
Animation Thousand Pounder 3
Its still in progress!

Yea Ive seen their project, and its looks rather neat Especially the fact that theyre making their own models Not to mention the thousand pounder they made is probably the best warcraft 3 model ive ever seen

While the models would definately "kick some arse" in our map, I doubt Archian would let us use them as they're one of the many things that make his map so unique And I can understand that. Its why I have'nt made a distributable version of our UI

However, theres no harm is asking lol I guess we could offer some of our resources as a show of good faith lol

 

[redmarine]

Guys, I'm not really able to work constantly on the inventory as it has affected my school work quite a bit. I'm settings boundaries from now on but every opportunity I get I'll work on it.

 

[CloudMax]

Yea Ive seen their project, and its looks rather neat Especially the fact that theyre making their own models Not to mention the thousand pounder they made is probably the best warcraft 3 model ive ever seen

While the models would definately "kick some arse" in our map, I doubt Archian would let us use them as they're one of the many things that make his map so unique And I can understand that. Its why I have'nt made a distributable version of our UI

However, theres no harm is asking lol I guess we could offer some of our resources as a show of good faith lol

Now check the abilitys in the video i lenked. I have already asked if he is going to make them public or if we could have the Leap/jump & Charge spells since that is the ones we are in need of right now and they looks just awesome.

Guys, I'm not really able to work constantly on the inventory as it has affected my school work quite a bit. I'm settings boundaries from now on but every opportunity I get I'll work on it.

How far have you come with the inventory? :O

 

[Super-Sheep]

Use paladons jump system adsads -.-

 

[CloudWolf]

Use paladons jump system adsads -.-

Yea! Thats definately a good suggestion I used his knockback system and its rather neat so I'm sure his jump system is equally as good

Ive got other commitments right now, but I'll definately be adding it in at some point

 

[CloudMax]

Use paladons jump system adsads -.-

We can do that too but why not use two spells made by the same guy insted of one spell from one guy and one spell from another. And that jump spell in the video is a copy of the one in d3 and will have the Pushback Stomp in it which means that we dont need to modify it.
But yea, i guess we are going to use paladons jump system. CloudWolf likes the pusback so...

Edit:

Yea! Thats definately a good suggestion I used his knockback system and its rather neat so I'm sure his jump system is equally as good

Ive got other commitments right now, but I'll definately be adding it in at some point

Yupp, yupp. I was right.

 

[CloudWolf]

Guys, I'm not really able to work constantly on the inventory as it has affected my school work quite a bit. I'm settings boundaries from now on but every opportunity I get I'll work on it.

dont worry about it Like ive said before, theres absolutely no rush to get any of this finished, treat it as a hobby rather than a job.

Just do what you can, when you can I'll admit ive spent more time on this project than I should have while at Uni xD It's just so addictive

EDIT:

Now check the abilitys in the video i lenked. I have already asked if he is going to make them public or if we could have the Leap/jump & Charge spells since that is the ones we are in need of right now and they looks just awesome.

Yea! Ive seen that before If theyre ever made public, ide be more than happy to use them

 

[saphiree]

I looked at the Diablo III homapage for some time and saw the gameplay video, and i saw some things you could improve, so here we go

Firstly: You've said you would remake all the spells, and i think thats great. But i dont see you need to make too much to the barbarian. You could just remove his stamina, and then add leap. Although it might not be that east

Ive also found an easy way to make those ghouls climb up the wall, but it might not be too good. You could just set pathing blockers as you already did, and then you could make the ghouls that need to climb up flying units with a fly high on 1. But that would make a problem, which would be that grond units such as the heroes can just walk below them. I dont know if theres any way to fix this.

I also have some improvements for weapons. Now i dont know how you made you're new inventory system, but i have an idea. I guess you've made all weapons one handed in your new system. But maybe it would be better if staffs and such was two-handen and also some large axes, while there also would be some small one handed weapons. I would also suggest you make it so only some races can use two one hand weapons at one time. I dont recall that the caster classes in Diablo II could have two weps at one time. But i dont remember this for sure.

The cultists i dont think really fits into the Diablo III gameplay video. There they summon demons, but in your map they summon skeletons, aint that a little weird? Maybe they should summon one strong demon instead of two skeletons.

In the gameplay video the hero also gets the archer guards to follow him. So maybe you could make it so there spawn archers for the number of players in the game, and then each player gets one. I think that would be nice Then you would just have to make sure that they would follow the heroes into the boss areas such as the one with the Skeleton King. Because mongrels dont follow the Witch Doctor in there.

Also, i dint see where that big murloc boss comes from. Maybe you could make some more cultists turning into that lich like demons on that place instead?

After i have played the map many times, ive kinda got tired of the same items. I know you dont have time to make too many new ones, but maybe you could make the drops much more random. Ofcause not the boss drops, and not too powerful items in the start, but i still think its kinda shame with the same and the same and the same items. I would ofc mostly like many new ones, and i know there comes a bunch new ones in v1.18.

Last i would like to talk about something thats been said before. The siege breaker's entry is quite boring :S He just comes running through the gate with very slow speed. Maybe you could make it so that when he enters the camera zooms down like a cinematic, then you set his movementspeed to 999, and let him bash out the gate, and when thats done maybe let him do something nice with cool effects, and then set his movementspeed to normal again.

 

[CloudMax]

I also have some improvements for weapons. Now i dont know how you made you're new inventory system, but i have an idea. I guess you've made all weapons one handed in your new system. But maybe it would be better if staffs and such was two-handen and also some large axes, while there also would be some small one handed weapons. I would also suggest you make it so only some races can use two one hand weapons at one time. I dont recall that the caster classes in Diablo II could have two weps at one time. But i dont remember this for sure.

We are going to make item types and such things. A wizard cant hold a two handed axe for example.

Also, i dint see where that big murloc boss comes from. Maybe you could make some more cultists turning into that lich like demons on that place instead?

And also make the cultists better made. Now they change at a special amount of life. They should transfor after a specefic amount of time in battle insted.

In the gameplay video the hero also gets the archer guards to follow him. So maybe you could make it so there spawn archers for the number of players in the game, and then each player gets one. I think that would be nice Then you would just have to make sure that they would follow the heroes into the boss areas such as the one with the Skeleton King. Because mongrels dont follow the Witch Doctor in there.

They only follow in a special place, its like a event in the dungeon they are in.

 

[saphiree]

And also make the cultists better made. Now they change at a special amount of life. They should transfor after a specefic amount of time in battle insted.

i dint know that, but you're right.

They only follow in a special place, its like a event in the dungeon they are in.

It would still be nice if ppl could control them But maybe not the most importat in that message anyway XD

 

[CloudWolf]

yeaa... I know what you mean about the current cultists I realised the other day that the still change into demons even if you kill them xD

I guess we could make it that when they reach a certain health, theres a 1/3 chance of turning into a demon or something that would give players the illusion of killing them before time runs out

 

[redmarine]

Regarding the pitlord. It would be quite awesome if we made him attack the gate and then run forwards. Perhaps some earthquake and camera shake effects.

 

[CloudWolf]

Regarding the pitlord. It would be quite awesome if we made him attack the gate and then run forwards. Perhaps some earthquake and camera shake effects.

too right Ill see what i can do for 1.18

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Right! I think as far as the ghouls are concerned, were done

 

[redmarine]

too right Ill see what i can do for 1.18

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Right! I think as far as the ghouls are concerned, were done

You're amazing man. Keep it up.


Look what I found lol.

Battle.net - Welcome to the Battle.net Web Site!

 

[CloudMax]

That actually looks almost exactly the same as the ones in diablo 3. First i thought it was diablo 3 (was removing some shit from my glasses) but when i putted them on i saw that it was a different shape xP Keep it up!

Lul wut?

 

[saphiree]

They're awesome! I cant wait to see them. What about my idea with making them climb up walls, or would it be too hard to make?

I guess we could make it that when they reach a certain health, theres a 1/3 chance of turning into a demon or something that would give players the illusion of killing them before time runs out

What about making a region, and then when players enter it, then there goes some time before they turn into demons?

 

[CloudMax]

They're awesome! I cant wait to see them. What about my idea with making them climb up walls, or would it be too hard to make?



What about making a region, and then when players enter it, then there goes some time before they turn into demons?

Or we can make an event that detects if a unit walks near a unit
And then wait (random value between 10/20) seconds before they turn into demons. BTW cloudwolf, they should be weak when they are in normal shape and then turn stronger if they manage to turn into demons in time.

 

[CloudWolf]

They're awesome! I cant wait to see them. What about my idea with making them climb up walls, or would it be too hard to make?

Yep Im also working on that After much consideration, ive decided to make a "flying" version of the ghoul set at 0 height (so it looks like he's walking) And literally make a trigger that replaces them with the ground versions once they enter the playable area This should give them the illusions of walking up the cliff face

Or we can make an event that detects if a unit walks near a unit
And then wait (random value between 10/20) seconds before they turn into demons. BTW cloudwolf, they should be weak when they are in normal shape and then turn stronger if they manage to turn into demons in time.

In the current version, the triggers start when a players enteres a region, but we can easily change that

I just need to make a way of cancelling the trigger, should the unit die before it is activated. This can be a pain in the arse when several units are using the same trigger

 

[saphiree]

Hmmm, for me they never turn into demons when i killed the cultist, they just keep playing they're animations.

 

[CloudMax]

Yep Im also working on that After much consideration, ive decided to make a "flying" version of the ghoul set at 0 height (so it looks like he's walking) And literally make a trigger that replaces them with the ground versions once they enter the playable area This should give them the illusions of walking up the cliff face

Why dont you just give the unit crow form and that way give it the flying ability and then remove it to make it walk again? :O

 

[saphiree]

thats also a posibillity ^^ I dont see anything much different in it, i guess both things would take the same amount of time to make

 

[redmarine]

I've sent CloudWolf a version of the system RC. If it works then it's done.

On the side note, there is a bug with the inventory but i think it's just a conflict between the old trigger and the new one.

Going to work now.

 

[saphiree]

AWESOME! So we only need some minor stuff fixed from cloud now and then we have a v1.18!?

 

[CloudMax]

AWESOME! So we only need some minor stuff fixed from cloud now and then we have a v1.18!?

We need items :S CloudWolf was suppost to work on that now but he is bussy with study now. :/

 

[saphiree]

aaaw that sucks :S But i guess real life is kinda more important than a WC3 map... Or is it...?
Just kiddin'

 

[CloudWolf]

dont worry too much, as of the 15th, all my coursework deadlines will have finished and I'll have plenty of time to work on it Expect a release within the next 2 weeks for sure =]

 

[saphiree]

nice, but i dont blame you. Im in the middle of my own exam atm, so i cant make anything on my own map.

 

[DrPepper1]

It looks BLOODY AMAZING!

 

[redmarine]

dont worry too much, as of the 15th, all my coursework deadlines will have finished and I'll have plenty of time to work on it Expect a release within the next 2 weeks for sure =]

I do have some ideas which could be applied though. Once you're done with it let me see.

The items are the least of our problems at the moment. Only the descriptions are needed to actually create the items.

Anyway, I'm going to install Windows 7 RC Build 7100 64bit now. Have fun guys.

 

[saphiree]

Tell me if its good, cus then i wait with my new comp till its out. (sorry for off-topic)

 

[hermie1]

I like it
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awsome maps at this link

 

[CloudMax]

If anyone wants to, join room "D3W Clan" in battle.net europe. We are going to make a clan that all the d3w fans can join.
CloudWolf as Chieftain. Me and RedMarine as Shamans. So just join! We need 8 people + Me & CloudWolf to create the clan!

For people that doesnt have time, try to join 17:00 or 19:00 UTC + 2 hours. I will be there. I hope that we success to create the clan today.