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[Rheiko]

hm, i don't guarantee it..
i just tell you how to remove leaks
anyway, is it doesn't work or something?

 

[Strydhaizer]

Okay , new updates
I have enhanced the fogs , lightings and skies. Please Comment Guys And also , please dont forget to subscribe.

Enhanced Terrain Skies

@Rheiko - I think nothing was changed. But it works

 

[FirstLegacy]

sorry about that strydie, been working with your model, i'll post the screenie when I'm done with ten.. but for now, I have five of them but need some fix since most of them are just a reskin.. but I'm still also doing a project of mine.. but time to time.. I have free time to do yours..

 

[Rheiko]

@Stryder
it's used to remove leaks and make your trigger more efficient
so the player can play your map more smoothly without FPS dropping (there is an exception about this)
anyway, cool terrain.. awesome
i'll never make something like that :\

 

[Strydhaizer]

Well , i have a team , offcoarse i cant do it without them
Thank you ,mate , and to the other members of the team mostly , my brother,Blitz (My System Maker!)

Okay , Rheiko , i noticed that you're really active , and i noticed that you're submitting spells , so

Can you help me on Gore Systems? I mean , the flying gores just like the system of Blades and Gores of Kitabatake , I hope you can help , tell it to me by messaging me on my profile.

Updates

 

[FUJI]

Wow!!! Looks interesting! +Rep keep this project completely ).

 

[Strydhaizer]

Thanks man .

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I still need more support so that someone will gonna nominate my project in the next project spotlight and will make me inspired in making this project . Again , thank you guys.

Also , Dont forget so subscribe

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Yada!

 

[Strydhaizer]

Thanks man .

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I still need more support so that someone will gonna nominate my project in the next project spotlight and will make me inspired in making this project . Again , thank you guys.

Also , Dont forget so subscribe

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Okay , Firstlegacy recently gave me an update to my requested models.

Click

 

[Rheiko]

nice,
good work FirstLegacy

 

[tobyfat50]

Hello there! I'm mainly here to judge the graphics and terrain but the whole project looks pretty cool good luck with it. Gave a good vote since it's still a work in progress.

You could actually change the night ambient dnc to a darker blue for a better night ambience. Could also ad add layers to the models for more contrast and lighting that would make the terrains look great. The models (great models) and textures look decent but the whole scene looks monoton in ensemble could use some contrast and light.
Couldn't help noticing you change the texture on that police car, who made it? I am working on the same model for my cinematic, could of let you use it but it`is not finished yet and I won't make it available until I release the map. Actually working on a police pack.

Dedicated to the OVH POLICE Police Department!

Maybe I can finish the pack before I launch the map. It`s the same old low poly model with a new painted skin.
If there's anything you wish to know or need help with give me a buzz.

 

[Rheiko]

looks cool

 

[Strydhaizer]

Well , i like the suggestion/advice. About the DNC , lol , i really dont want the effect of changing it to bit blue. About the Police Car you had mentioned , it just a converted model from this site http://tf3dm.com/3d-model/cars-66597.html , probably or possibly its not a copyrighted model.

Basing on your image , well , i really like it , i just want to ask if you have the Firetruck Skin because i imported it to my map and the original skin looks ... uhh .. So if you have it in your pack , then i will wait for it

Thanks for your time in commenting on my thread , Tobyfat
~StryderZero

 

[tobyfat50]

I'm afraid I don't have a fire truck but wanted to make one for some time. The police pack won't include a fire truck unfortunately but if it`is finished I'll remember and sent it to you.
Could you send me the Diner Building and Textures?
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...334-dead-end-wc3scrnshot_083113_154721_05.png
I want to make a small adjustment maybe you'll like it.
The Diner logo does not emit any light although the glow seems to suggest that.

 

[Strydhaizer]

So , tobyfat , are you interested to join my project? It seems that i need to include you in my team
Ill send you the model later in PM

 

[Kithraya]

Well , i like the suggestion/advice. About the DNC , lol , i really dont want the effect of changing it to bit blue. About the Police Car you had mentioned , it just a converted model from this site http://tf3dm.com/3d-model/cars-66597.html , probably or possibly its not a copyrighted model.

Basing on your image , well , i really like it , i just want to ask if you have the Firetruck Skin because i imported it to my map and the original skin looks ... uhh .. So if you have it in your pack , then i will wait for it

Thanks for your time in commenting on my thread , Tobyfat
~StryderZero

I can edit this texture. It wont look "uhh.." anymore.

 

[Rheiko]

"uhh.."

what does uhh supposed to mean?

 

[Kithraya]

what does uhh supposed to mean?

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...i imported it to my map and the original skin looks ... uhh ..

I hate questions like that.

 

[Rheiko]

i know, stupid question
just forget about it

 

[tobyfat50]

Uhh... Here to post a little something for Stryderzero. So he added me to the team, even after I refused his invitation, I think.. Conclusion I won't be doing much here, maybe a few things if I got the time.
Here is the Diner model. I fixed it`s normals and added just a slight touch of specular, this should look better in "g" illumination and it won't be much affected by the add layer when it comes to fog, since it`is barely visible specular map. The building models have good HQ textures however they could use a little sharpening, it helps the models look better in far and near distance since they look a little blurry because of wc3 shader. Fixed the Logos, they now emit light even in complete darkness. Thought I'd do that since You have a glow in the picture that comes from nowhere.
Overall the models/textures/terrain look good but the horrible wc3 shading ruins it all making it look monotone. I seen this problem in many maps.

Lighting is step to realism. Old masters used to pay a lot of attention to light in their paintings. The more complex the lighting is the real the objects look. Even if you got cartoon like textures, if it's got light accurate to the real world like photon bounce, ambient occlusion etc it still looks real/better.
The wc3 shares are men... compared to other games evidently. Even StarCraft 2 at the lowest settings still looks better than wc3 because even if the low settings have basic and simple stuff the shaders are still way better.

Example: Oclusion using radiosity on wc3 models

Rest

I know that you're going to say that there's not much difference but put the 2 models side by side and you will notice.
Couldn't help myself so I am working on a more physically accurate light model I'll try my shadow maps on it I now you will probably use this but I want you to see how it looks.
The models, probably send them to you tomorrow.

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I can edit this texture. It wont look "uhh.." anymore.

You don't have to change anything, just do what I said with the textures, add slight specular maps (but not everywhere, you should not use this where the models are too far from sight and foged heavenly) and change that DNC. This should improve the visual quality of the entire map.

 

[Strydhaizer]

Uhh... Here to post a little something for Stryderzero. So he added me to the team, even after I refused his invitation, I think.. Conclusion I won't be doing much here, maybe a few things if I got the time.

No i didnt , what i mean is its on your decision if you will help me or not =)
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I know , thats why im using ENB Series to enhace the game graphics.
About the Diner model , sorry but i only have little knowledge in ... modelling .

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Okay , just changed the DNC , doesnt look good for me.

 

[tobyfat50]

No i didnt , what i mean is its on your decision if you will help me or not =)
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Sorry that's how I understood the message.
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Now that looks way better than before, the color actually looks like it's the sky color in the background which is good. If you still don`t like how the DNK looks you could gently make the color little by gray but it looks good to me.
About the shadows, I can see that you really are interested in them. There are 3 ways:
1. The shadow map technique discovered by me and Travaj. (Like tehnic 3 only a lot more complex and took weeks of research just to make it work.) Using 3ds max + art tools or neodex. (Your going to have to do some material layer managing here) - resource and size wise; Bugs - YES
2. Integrating the doodads in the actual terrain so that the shadows actually shade the objects. This is just something that I kame up with becouse it seems efficient and I need it in the moment, still in testing mode so it's incomplete. I'll show you how it's done, with this simply calculating the shadow could become a thing of the past. resource and size wise; Bugs - YES
3. Simple baked shadows on the diffuse texture with 3d max. (how I got the shadows on the planks you were mentioning. I don't use this anymore\much because of the first technique which is better.)resource and size wise - NO; Bugs - NO

I'll make you a quick tutorial after I finish with the diner.

Edit:

I know , thats why im using ENB Series to enhace the game graphics.

Don't rely on that, not everybody uses the ENB Series.

 

[tobyfat50]

BUMP
Here is how the model looks with shadow maps. Think you will like it in your map!
Put a glow to that logo and it should be complete.

 

[Rheiko]

cool, tobyfat

 

[tobyfat50]

I should've made a darker contrast, the shadows aren't as visible as I planned.
The diner is made with technic nr 1

Here are some video tutorials on technique nr 3 --->

There are a lot more, study them...

 

[Strydhaizer]

Sadly , i dont have 3dsMax

I just want to know if you have blended those light textures in the model.

 

[Rheiko]

nice work
that's just awesome
btw, stryder
Mia doesn't has damage but has attack UI? how could that be?

 

[Strydhaizer]

It was triggered by my System Maker

• Manual Attack Action
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Strike Air
  • Actions
    • Animation - Play Mia's Attack animation
    • Sound - Play Rifle_Shot <gen>
    • Unit - Order Mia to Stop
    • Unit - Pause Mia
    • Trigger - Turn off UpPress <gen>
    • Trigger - Turn off DownPress <gen>
    • Trigger - Turn off RightPress <gen>
    • Trigger - Turn off LeftPress <gen>
    • Wait 0.05 seconds
    • Set Mia_ManualAttackCaster = Mia
    • Set Mia_ManualAttackPoint = (Position of Mia)
    • Set Mia_ManualAttackStrength = (Strength of Mia_ManualAttackCaster (Include bonuses))
    • Set Mia_ManualAttackConvert = (Real(Mia_ManualAttackStrength))
    • Unit - Create 1 Air Projectile Dummy for (Owner of Mia) at (Mia_ManualAttackPoint offset by 300.00 towards (Facing of Mia) degrees) facing (Facing of Mia) degrees
    • Set Mia_ManualAttackDummy[1] = (Last created unit)
    • Trigger - Turn on Manual Attack Damage <gen>
    • Wait 0.40 seconds
    • Unit - Unpause Mia
    • Trigger - Turn on UpPress <gen>
    • Trigger - Turn on DownPress <gen>
    • Trigger - Turn on RightPress <gen>
    • Trigger - Turn on LeftPress <gen>
    • Wait 0.40 seconds
    • Trigger - Turn off Manual Attack Damage <gen>
    • Unit - Remove Mia_ManualAttackDummy[1] from the game

• Manual Attack Damage
  • Events
    • Time - Every 0.01 seconds of game time
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Unit - Turn collision for Mia_ManualAttackDummy[1] Off
    • Set Mia_ManualAttackDummyPostition = (Position of Mia_ManualAttackDummy[1])
    • Set Mia_ManualAttackDummyLocation = (Mia_ManualAttackDummyPostition offset by 20.00 towards (Facing of Mia_ManualAttackDummy[1]) degrees)
    • Unit - Move Mia_ManualAttackDummy[1] instantly to Mia_ManualAttackDummyLocation
    • -------- =============== --------
    • -------- Distance to Bullet --------
    • -------- =============== --------
    • Set Mia_ManualAttackTargets = (Units within 30.00 of Mia_ManualAttackDummyPostition matching (((Matching unit) belongs to an enemy of (Owner of Mia_ManualAttackCaster)) Equal to True))
    • -------- =============== --------
    • -------- Damage to Targets --------
    • -------- =============== --------
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in Mia_ManualAttackTargets and do (Unit - Cause Mia_ManualAttackCaster to damage (Picked unit), dealing 50.00 damage of attack type Normal and damage type Normal)

Oh F^ck , it LEAKS on dummy unit.

 

[Rheiko]

i see
i forgot that she is using bullet

 

[Strydhaizer]

Okay , give me suggestions in making this Kowloon City , Hongkong Terrain. Its just part of Cinematic.

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Okay , just noticed a glow is misplaced , heres the new one.

 

[tobyfat50]

That looks cool, I'm glad that it worked. If you can do that to all your models then your whole terrain would drastically change to a carnaval of lights.

Sadly , i dont have 3dsMax

I just want to know if you have blended those light textures in the model.

Yes they are blended together but through material coordinates.
Sorry but it can't be done without 3ds max, not even the most simplest technique.
You could use Photoshop to paint on the textures but that would be preposterous, absurd, not happening! There's a way to paint shadow with 3ds max. I use that too but the best way is to bake the light.

 

[tobyfat50]

_Bump_
The city looks good but the buildings could use some windows with lights on. It feels like it's 4 o'clock in the morning and everyone's asleep. If that's not what you actually intend.
If you want I can help you with those as well.

 

[Strydhaizer]

Note:

Those buildings are lowpoly (They are just cubes/box , resized to become a building)
-cant find more variation of 3d buildings on web
I just want someone to add omnilights to those models

I think helping me with that thing will take you time, there are 51 variation of buildings.
Forget it , there are only 10 hongkong buildings (again, theyre only show at cinematic so dont need to make much effort on it ) were made , 40 others were seen in the game.

Ill just send them later

 

[tobyfat50]

Using the shadow technique wouldn't be such a good Idea in this case anyhow. It has one major flaw and that is that it does not fog if you noticed in the Diner model. I actually use 2 modems, one with shadow maps for close up and another with simple baked textures for backgrounds.
The picture below is made simple by highlighting the windows in photoshop, no complicated techniques used. You can get the same results by taking a night texture and making the material unshaded.

Here is a link for night textures
http://www.cgtextures.com/

 

[Strydhaizer]

Should i make it as unshaded material?

Oh forget that , its a useless question. Gonna update this thread later.

 

[tobyfat50]

Don't know , do what you think. Good luck with your tests!

 

[Strydhaizer]

I need comments , dunno why only few are replying on my project.

 

[Rheiko]

i'll comment but because both of you was in the middle of conversation, i guess i shouldn't bother you guys
btw, i like that buildings and it's placement.. nice stryder

 

[bethmachine]

I have been looking at this project for a while and I think I am going to finally say something. First, dude your terrains are just excellent, I know I can somewhat terrain but your just on another level, mind if you share a few of your tips.The story, I'm not so sure about but maybe I can help you with it. The gameplay sounds awesome but I don't get enough information. And your city is looking beautiful keep it up I give this project a 8/10. How to improve add a bit more info to thread and maybe add more in-game screenshots just do that and you will get a 9/10 map. Can't wait for release!!!

 

[Strydhaizer]

-bethmachine
There are actually more than 20 screenshots are posted somewhere in this thread , dont just look at the first page , try looking more screenies in page 2-4

BTW , i just asked a request , bethmachine , i will respect your answer.

-Rheiko
I much like persons who comment even it is just to say that your proud on my project . Again , thanks Rheiko

 

[Rheiko]

you're welcome

 

[bethmachine]

Stryder- Okay I see now nice job. I will now give this map a 9/10.Yah,when will beta be released?Keep up the good work.

 

[XdarkHUNTERevilX]

congratulations even if its just for the interesting

 

[Strydhaizer]

Okay , story were updated , i would like to thank bethmachine for helping me. Also , new character/s were added.

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Beta will be released in the end of the year , not sure , maybe delayed because of incoming Holidays.

 

[Rheiko]

wow, i like the story
now it's better than before, much better
good job for both of you!

 

[Strydhaizer]

A new Project Cover

 

[Rheiko]

ah, it's awesome
good job stryder

 

[tobyfat50]

Cool! The Cover reminds me of resident evil.
I wish I had time to upload to you a tutorial on some different shadow techniques which don't require 3ds max but I was involved in some serious work projects + I had to escort A foreign girl from Romania so I had a lot of stuff on my head. No progress so far... i haven't posted anything anywhere and I noticed that people are usually occupied in this period of time School, work etc...

 

[Rheiko]

after you mention it
yeah, it kinda looks like resident evil

 

[Strydhaizer]

Cool! The Cover reminds me of resident evil.
I wish I had time to upload to you a tutorial on some different shadow techniques which don't require 3ds max but I was involved in some serious work projects + I had to escort A foreign girl from Romania so I had a lot of stuff on my head. No progress so far... i haven't posted anything anywhere and I noticed that people are usually occupied in this period of time School, work etc...

No need , mate , i have some little knowledge in blending shadows , its bit simple to do , im just using brush with a color of black (offcoarse) blended with a half opacity , ill show a screenshot later.

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Okay , its good to remember my old games , they are still pretty inspiring.

The City Terrain Basis (Dont Open if you are not interested)

The City Terrain Basis

Oh i just recently opened my old game Need For Speed Most Wanted , i just like to see a New York-like terrain. Models arent problem.

 

[Strydhaizer]

Just Tried Modelling and my model seems , hmm , its not so good than i expect. Textures were downloaded from cgtextures
Built using Blender 3d and mapped with MDLVIS.

Factory/Garage

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