Cruel Lot of Condemned v1.0

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Date: 2011/Oct/14 19:42:21 Vengeancekael: VM // PM: Status: Approved Rating: 3/5 Acceptable Rep Received: 1

Reasons: Other: If you have any complaints or questions directed towards a moderator, make a thread here: Map Resource Moderation If you think the moderator's judging is unfair or you have overall complaints, make a thread here: Admin Contact Please read the rules thoroughly: Rules Comment: Review: Gameplay: First off, the spell special effects look awesome, Aton is just badass (although I'm not too fond of the model you've used for him, really low poly and weirdly shaped). However combat is just really slow, 'Storm Bringer' for example has a way too long cooldown and even the first waves have too much HP, you should rather add more waves with less hp to make the map more fast paced and also reduce spell cooldowns. The spell tooltips are informative and well written, but a custom UI texture would've been really nice and I think there are some nature themed UIs on wc3c. You've added nice ambiance sound effects and also sound effects in the intro, but maybe you should play a sound when a new wave is incoming, preferably the unit's voice set. A custom soundtrack has also been imported, making things a bit more fresh. There are also neat custom items with really cool model attachments, but it's lacking more items. (Also think about adding a lot of different potion types, ms, as, ...) Terrain: The arena is really neat, very polished, a lot of detail in every corner and very symmetric actually. It really does look like an ancient arena and very realistic. Other: No custom loading screen image, :/ It's SP, so there's no reason not to use one. The in-game messages are colorized and well written, but try to use different colors for each message type (timer, tips, ...) Also add a quest with the credits. The preview image's quality is also really low. Overall: A neat and kind of polished map by APProject once again, but the combat is really slow, it's nothing original or fresh and there are some things that could be improved.

 

[vdainiusv]

The map was amazing, terraain, sounds, icons, models, music and cinematics were great but it was hard
anyway 5/5

 

[Vengeancekael]

Review:

Gameplay:

First off, the spell special effects look awesome, Aton is just badass (although I'm not too fond of the model you've used for him, really low poly and weirdly shaped).
However combat is just really slow, 'Storm Bringer' for example has a way too long cooldown and even the first waves have too much HP, you should rather add more waves with less hp to make the map more fast paced and also reduce spell cooldowns.
The spell tooltips are informative and well written, but a custom UI texture would've been really nice and I think there are some nature themed UIs on wc3c.
You've added nice ambiance sound effects and also sound effects in the intro, but maybe you should play a sound when a new wave is incoming, preferably the unit's voice set.
A custom soundtrack has also been imported, making things a bit more fresh.
There are also neat custom items with really cool model attachments, but it's lacking more items. (Also think about adding a lot of different potion types, ms, as, ...)

Terrain:

The arena is really neat, very polished, a lot of detail in every corner and very symmetric actually. It really does look like an ancient arena and very realistic.

Other:

No custom loading screen image, :/ It's SP, so there's no reason not to use one.
The in-game messages are colorized and well written, but try to use different colors for each message type (timer, tips, ...)
Also add a quest with the credits.
The preview image's quality is also really low.

Overall:

A neat and kind of polished map by APProject once again, but the combat is really slow, it's nothing original or fresh and there are some things that could be improved.

Rating: 3/5

 

[APproject]

The map was amazing, terraain, sounds, icons, models, music and cinematics were great but it was hard
anyway 5/5

Thank you.

However combat is just really slow, 'Storm Bringer' for example has a way too long cooldown and even the first waves have too much HP, you should rather add more waves with less hp to make the map more fast paced and also reduce spell cooldowns.

Well the Storm Bringer maybe have a little bit too big cooldown, but in my opinion it is quite rather harder to start with Aton than with Hestia due to it, after few bettles the fights might be faster, beginning is supposed to be slow. I decided to make it lots of HP because I am really enjoying fighting long fights in which you must pour a lot of effort to win. Personally I don't find fun in exploding everything around, killing masses anymore. I tried to make more *individual* fights, such as more as 1 on 1, even though it wasn't made there. But I still managed to hold that low number of creeps, at least in a very beginning.

There are also neat custom items with really cool model attachments, but it's lacking more items. (Also think about adding a lot of different potion types, ms, as, ...)

Yes, there ain't a lot of items to choose, but it is currently enough. I may add something more within time. Talking about potions, personally I don't use them at all, I prefer counting on items. Of course in a very beginning potions would be vital for beginners.

No custom loading screen image, :/ It's SP, so there's no reason not to use one.

The preview image's quality is also really low.

I'm having problems making loading screen. The only way to get a loading screen would be asking other people around Hive. Anyway, I don't find loading screen and preview image neccessary at all! It don't affect game itself at all. It basically do nothing but expand map's size.

Also add a quest with the credits.

Oh, I absolutely forgot to add it due to rush.

Thank you for the review and of course for approval.

 

[ashbringer753]

Really good map, one the best in its genres, yet it lacks variety. More items and heroes would be greatly appreciated.

I would also recommend using this skin for the ranger http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...-blp-172446/?prev=search=sylvanus&d=list&r=20 instead of the beta ranger model.

Also the armor attachment adds a blade to the ranger, it doesn't function quite well because it thrusts its cape.
The boot attachment doesn't work well on the mage. Try using this model instead for him: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...aver-182145/?prev=search=archmage&d=list&r=20

at the moment both heroes are made for kiting, maybe add a third with a different gameplay.

 

[APproject]

I agree. I might work on variety once I jump to this project again. Hmm, ranger skin looks quite well I must say, it would fit well, but first of all, I must get to know how to use these skins, hehe. Never used ones before. Hmm, talking of blade, I just had to pick something in order to set right hand attached. I may look into this and perhaps blade would be replaced. I already know how to solve the boot problem, it might include several triggers, so ranger would get attached boots and sorcerer - not. My very first intention to make sorcerer was Malygos, I thought it would be perfect model. Once imported I realised that, if I record correctly, the portrait of model itself was terribly developed and I couldn't let it stay. Of course, third hero with different gameplay instead of killing and smashing would be nice.

Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions.

 

[D a w n]

was really fun, but that movement speed and knockback on contact spell is bugged. When you have exactly the amount of mana needed to activate it, it will be active all the time without draining mana and I don't think that you intended that

 

[APproject]

Hmm, there is an issue with that one. But spell itself is not active, just those lightnings around are. It might get fixed by adjusting mana required to active and some triggers. Also, simply by turning it On and the Off it might get fixed, hehe.. But it might take a while to set it right. Thanks.

 

[D a w n]

it really is active, because the speed is increased and there is the knockback. I tested it yesterday to abuse it

 

[APproject]

Ugh.. Haven't faced such problem yet, gotta test it out. Thanks for support, DonDustin.

 

[deepstrasz]

It starts being annoying when the enemy has four heavy units that heal every other of their units.
-Berserker Arrow knockbacks before hitting
-there was still a Draenei caster but round 2 ended
-at level four, no spell can be chosen?

3.5/5.

 

[Edy]

One of the first maps that made me appreciate how beautiful a good terrained arena can look, such a beauty, the first map that made me think is this beauty possible in warcraft 3