Creep Arcade 1.30c

[Moderator]

20:53, 13th Aug 2010
ap0calypse: Approved

 

[DX Generation]

Well,the map is great,everything else too,but this is mini-game,add models from Hive to make it look better.

 

[DredLord2]

There needs to be a kicking system... People just summon 10 ports at a time...

 

[BestZero]

I don't know what is this map genre so if you said that, I will just change. For custom models I don't really think I should add one, because Blizzard's models are always fine with my map and if I add them, size will greatly increase. And if I were to add, I don't really know to make hero skills for them either so that's why I go for Blizzard's standard models.


Yeah I also find it troublesome playing in pb.... people just mass spawn which I don't know for what sake but you may just close it one by one, or you are gonna siege enemy castle you may always click at The Helper to close all.

And I'm thinking, should I make only player blue and player pink can control portals but that will surely make game less complex.

 

[Vincent]

Nice map could add a few stuff though...
but either way good map

 

[Hormonij]

Nice map 4/5

 

[redragex]

i agree, need some more stuff

 

[Interium]

Normal map 4\5

 

[FrozenFenrir]

liked it alot but it need some newbie limitations...my enemies team always have 10 portals and die because of it even if i told then 10 times their sent creeps are for theirselfs...
maybe u could use a food system which allows only a few portals at the beginning but the number of portals increases over time (like +1 ever 2 mins or something...starting at 3 max)

 

[BestZero]

That case has already been fixed with -cm mode. All you need to do is making someone who knows how to play (or at least not an idiot) acquire pink slot then start the game with -cm.

 

[FrozenFenrir]

well this is something else
if u dont HAVE any intelligent lifeforms in ur enemies team(which is common) this mode doesnt make any differences...
thats why im asking for something else like the descripted mode above =O

 

[LostFlip]

Uhh, noobs cant get this game enough.
They always send lots of creeps
Do something about it.

 

[BestZero]

I have no other bright idea besides of adding AI that I won't build for this map. Perhaps next version I will add limitation of portals which will increase as time passes (mode). But in the end you need to make them understand or else they will be doomed later.

 

[BlackEnvyX]

A kicking system would be nice. Its a good map. 4/5

 

[Malcous]

Good map 4/5

 

[SecretTrader]

best zero it doesnt work anymore on wc3 because of the patch fix your lock error

 

[BestZero]

Updated for the 1.24 patch, don't know if this will cause any bugs related to the recent new system or not, if found reporting here would be appreciate.

 

[KillerNick]

very nice but i think need some more items , and heros, bisides that is a very nice original game

 

[TheBlueOne]

It would be look better if there would be the older changelock within hidden-tags.

 

[Hamsamwich]

Balance the heroes in my opinion.

EXAMPLES

The mana hunter is horrid. Especially in comparison to heroes like the priestess of the moon.

His mana thing should be based on an orb effect so it doesnt' consistently drain mana. He might be better if there were more .. specified items. For example a few more sets of gear that lack normal stats but add abilities.. OR as i have heard other peopel say "every one likes a combination system" So possibly you could buy 5 different ones each of them upgrading the last one making a mix and match scenario. Wow.. I got offtrack fast and hard. Some of this even seems like nonsense to me..

Anywho ya, some heroes are just horribly worse, and other horribly better.

I will be bot hosting this more often!

Also this might have just been me but the moutain kings passive was misleadding, i feel like it said that the thunder clap had a chance of working. ALso i would think that type of passive would work better when most of his moves weren't passives or minute+ cool downs.

 

[BestZero]

I am kind of lazy to make a changelog everytime, you see this is rarely hosted so not much of people play it so I decided not to include that, not worth writing you can say.

Priestess of the Moon was just remade so she is freaking... hot. I know this and she will be getting some nerfs, the numbers to be specified.

About the Mana Hunter... yeah he is one of the very slow-paced hero because he doesn't have AoE damage spell. To be precise his spells are ineffective against creeps and was made to be very specified to some situations (where there are a lot of enemy Casters). He will be getting one or two spells remade maybe his Mana Drain to be AoE spell, I'm going to work that out.

About Mountain King... thanks for that maybe I'm going to write a better tooltips and a better spell name. You pointed out the real fact about he should have more active spells, but I already know that because of I could not think some nicely fit active spells so I put him one more basic passive, despite that the current Mountain King is very balanced and enjoyable to play.
I'm not a native English speaker. In fact, I never use it in real life and I studied it on my own via some books and... Internet, that's why I could not make some nice spell names and tooltips.

For the balance of heroes, excluding that I listed I think most of them are balanced enough. I will not explain here how to play all of them, that would limit the strategies so better go and try for yourself for the builds that you like. Also you could list them if you think they are imbalanced I'm an open-minded so I will look at them more specifically.

About items, I know people are going to complain that there are only a few items but I have a nice explanation for that.
This map is intended to be simple yet competitive for advanced players. Adding more unneeded items and combination system, new players will complain "WTF there are too many items and I couldn't figure it out what should I buy." then some people may spend 10-20 minutes so they can make a decision and by that time the game should have already finished. And yes there are a lot of players that want some really freaking imba items like +250 damage maybe? so they can rock everyone in the game, but you know this is a fast-paced game so the amount of sum they gather to buy that freaking imba items may be all of time they use to farm. They should spend their gold elsewhere like buying reinforcements or auras to keep harassing the enemies. So I can only say this, there will be no combination system but of course this doesn't limit to variety of new items, like artifacts that have spells inside. I will look deeper before I will add any more items.

Lastly, thanks for all feedbacks. I love them. Anymore is welcome.
Also thanks for hosting this for me. I don't host because of my high ping it would be impossible to host for people... that live across the world.

 

[Hamsamwich]

I like your Point about items. I am thinking of making my bot host it at specific times (Is there a way to make a bot host a "playlist" of games?)

 

[warblazer]

i think the "Soul Eater" skill of the Obsidian Destroyer, is broken, unless it doesnt work for spells, in which case this should be said in the tooltip, but i dont seem to gain any hp when i kill them

 

[MortAr]

Screenshots are somehow bugged and I can't really see them.
Also, does it support AI?

 

[BestZero]

i think the "Soul Eater" skill of the Obsidian Destroyer, is broken, unless it doesnt work for spells, in which case this should be said in the tooltip, but i dont seem to gain any hp when i kill them

"Soul Eater" works as long as you are the one that kill a unit, including any source of damage type. (Notice the effect when you kill a unit.)

Screenshots are somehow bugged and I can't really see them.
Also, does it support AI?

Thanks. Changed to image hosting service now.

AI is tempting but I haven't done any of it and it's hard to just wander around by myself... might be good to have some nice and clear descriptive resource to learn.

 

[Cweener]

Review Time #20

Review # 20

Rating System (in weener points:)

1-10 Originality
1-10 Replayability (discounted for most cinematics*)
1-10 Triggering (discounted for protected maps*)
1-10 Terraining
1-10 Object Managing (custom items and destructibles etc...)
1-10 Spells (if applies**)
1-10 Description (On THW and In-game (Loading Screen and information))
1-15 Engaging a.k.a. fun to play
1-15 Misc (size, system implementation, laginess etc...)
-100 or +100 for abiding by THW rules.
_{* = when one is discounted then other sections maximums are raised, and those sections are judged harder (if your map applies then it will show you what i raised later)
** = some maps dont really need spells so this section is discounted and given an automatic 10.}

Rating System Scores

Less than 100 = FF- (Reported, You clearly didnt abide by all of the posting rules, and i have reported you for (not) doing so.)
100-150 Points = F- (Rancid and Needs major work. Vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
151-160 Points = F (Bad and Needs work. vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
161-170 Points = D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)
171-180 Points = C (Okay but Needs updates. has potential. vote for rejection* and no +rep.)
181-190 Points = B (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval but no +rep)
191-199 Points = A (Great and probably has reached full potential**. good job. vote for approval and +rep.)
200 Points = A+ (Amazing, you did everything right and went all out, approval and +rep)
_{* = depending on the map really, and what categories it scored low in
** = not always but most cases.}

Creep Arcade 1.30b

_{Triggering scores not available, so other maximums were raised(see rating system*)}

1-11 Originality *10* while this map has unique aspects, it's main concept has been done on rare occasions.
1-11 Replayability *9* It's fairly fun, and decently balanced leaving a lot of room for playability
1-11 Terraining *6* While this map doesn't need an epic landscape it needs more than it has currently. Mainly in tile variation.
1-11 Object Managing *11* A lot of good work.
1-11 Spells *11* Bugfree and a lot were original
1-11 Description *9* Gives all necessary info, however could add more to it.
1-17 Engaging *15* It was fairly engaging.
1-17 Misc *17* Everything here was perfect.
-100 or 100 Rules *100*
0-200 All-in-all *188* B+ (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval and +rep was given)

Author's Note,

This map was great, I liked the concept and execution. The only thing that kept you from an A was terrain. You just need more tiles, and make sure they look good. That'd raise your score there 3-4 points.

Bugs I found

Bugs:
Nothing, that I found.

Recommendations

Recommendations:
Fix up the terrain tile variation.
Possibly add some height variation, or little puddles.

Likes&Dislikes

[Liked]
Well, there is simply too much to say about what I like.


[Didn't like]
The terrain.

If any map I've reviewed has been updated, feel free the ask me to re-review it. or if I haven't reviewed YOUR map, feel free to ask me.

 

[Ironside]

Review # 20

Rating System (in weener points:)

1-10 Originality
1-10 Replayability (discounted for most cinematics*)
1-10 Triggering (discounted for protected maps*)
1-10 Terraining
1-10 Object Managing (custom items and destructibles etc...)
1-10 Spells (if applies**)
1-10 Description (On THW and In-game (Loading Screen and information))
1-15 Engaging a.k.a. fun to play
1-15 Misc (size, system implementation, laginess etc...)
-100 or +100 for abiding by THW rules.
_{* = when one is discounted then other sections maximums are raised, and those sections are judged harder (if your map applies then it will show you what i raised later)
** = some maps dont really need spells so this section is discounted and given an automatic 10.}

Rating System Scores

Less than 100 = FF- (Reported, You clearly didnt abide by all of the posting rules, and i have reported you for (not) doing so.)
100-150 Points = F- (Rancid and Needs major work. Vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
151-160 Points = F (Bad and Needs work. vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
161-170 Points = D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)
171-180 Points = C (Okay but Needs updates. has potential. vote for rejection* and no +rep.)
181-190 Points = B (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval but no +rep)
191-199 Points = A (Great and probably has reached full potential**. good job. vote for approval and +rep.)
200 Points = A+ (Amazing, you did everything right and went all out, approval and +rep)
_{* = depending on the map really, and what categories it scored low in
** = not always but most cases.}

Creep Arcade 1.30b

_{Triggering scores not available, so other maximums were raised(see rating system*)}

1-11 Originality *10* while this map has unique aspects, it's main concept has been done on rare occasions.
1-11 Replayability *9* It's fairly fun, and decently balanced leaving a lot of room for playability
1-11 Terraining *6* While this map doesn't need an epic landscape it needs more than it has currently. Mainly in tile variation.
1-11 Object Managing *11* A lot of good work.
1-11 Spells *11* Bugfree and a lot were original
1-11 Description *9* Gives all necessary info, however could add more to it.
1-17 Engaging *15* It was fairly engaging.
1-17 Misc *17* Everything here was perfect.
-100 or 100 Rules *100*
0-200 All-in-all *188* B+ (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval and +rep was given)

Author's Note,

This map was great, I liked the concept and execution. The only thing that kept you from an A was terrain. You just need more tiles, and make sure they look good. That'd raise your score there 3-4 points.

Bugs I found

Bugs:
Nothing, that I found.

Recommendations

Recommendations:
Fix up the terrain tile variation.
Possibly add some height variation, or little puddles.

Likes&Dislikes

[Liked]
Well, there is simply too much to say about what I like.


[Didn't like]
The terrain.

If any map I've reviewed has been updated, feel free the ask me to re-review it. or if I haven't reviewed YOUR map, feel free to ask me.

Information:
Review Marked.
1st add a category, I won't contact the moderator until you do!

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I end up writing a fast review, or just posting the end state of the map, rating is not always included!


Current State for this map: Approved


I will contact the moderator to Approve/Reject the map, depending on what you recieved.

 

[dead-man-walking]

Hey there. Tested this some minutes ago on Singleplayer. No full review because I don't want to waste your time. But my main points:
-Terrain is well, bland. :/. Maybe add some shrubbies to give it a livelier atmosphere?
-It would be fun if one mode forces a portal to open on both sides' area for every now and then.

That's pretty much all now. I'll have some more when I have tested this in Multiplayer (Of course if the DotArds aren't in BNet... Sigh).

However, this Map is pretty much approvable disregarding the Terrain. It would be fun if this is Singleplayer compatible, though. :/

 

[BestZero]

Category added.

First, I would like to thank for approving and reviewing this map, since I don't want to bother you guys by sending a PM back so I will just post it here. I just want to let you know that I already read all PMs and posts directing to me.

-Terrain is well, bland. :/. Maybe add some shrubbies to give it a livelier atmosphere?
-It would be fun if one mode forces a portal to open on both sides' area for every now and then.

Certainly. I will fix terrain of I ever have a time and inspiration to update this map.

About mode, indeed, it seems interesting and fun to play.

At the moment, I'm working on SC2 project and I have much workloads to do so I don't really know if I will go back to WC3 modding.

 

[drakexx]

i like this map 4/5

 

[Naman]

Hi I found some glitches in the map: at start you can spam -random and you get a bunch of heroes. However, when your hero dies, they dont respawn unless there are none left alive. Also, the "max portals" is glitched. Apparently it still counts closed portals or something. The enemy team once could not open any portals at all because of this glitch. Also, a suggestion is to give the host a little more time at start to pick mode. I am not that fast of a typer so i fail to type in the mode i want in time. And is there any way for a hero to get back from the enemy side? This map has a great concept and I hope you continue working on it.

 

[royalmurder]

Hey,

can anyone point me in the direction of more games like this?
Me and my buddy both remember playing similar maps, but cannot seem to find them, nor recall their names.