Clash Of Forces

[SYLAR18]

ok so i have started making this map like 3 years ago maybe. i dont even remember now and than i stopped when i stopped playing wc3 . ok so i want some help like feedback and someone who knows triggers well to check a bit. map is laggy a bit, there is 1 strange thing when u want to host map, like when u enter custom maps or something and choose this map it lags for seconds, no idea why. BTW my old nick here was dachi15. there are 2 maps 1 optimized for playing and 2nd normal for checking triggers and etc.

Game Info

Overall

You need to choose race and class.there are 3 classes, engineer, tower builder and altar of hero(hero). you can upgrade units and towers if you choose engineer or tower builder or there are many items for hero if u choose hero. to win you must destroy enemy castle.

Units

Every race has some special units
Human - Healer - Heal,
Night Elf - Dryad - Trueshot Aura,
Orc - Shaman - Bloodlust,
Undead - Abomination - Disease Cloud.

Every 30 seconds there are spawning all creeps near castle and they attack enemy castle.

Troops:
100 gold : melee unit
300 gold : ranger unit
500 gold : unit with race ability
1000 gold : unit with range upgrade
3000 gold : flying unit
5000 gold : range unit with splash attack

Upgrades

There are upgrades for every unit or tower, every upgrade has 10 level.
Upgrades :
Damage : 20%
Attack Speed : 10% (5% for units with range upgrades)
HP : 20%
Armor : 20% for units, more for buildings
HP Regeneration : 100%
Range : 50 (only for 1 unit per race)
Ability : increases 1 level

When you research some upgrades for units it will be researched for all players (lets say you upgrade 5 lvl footman attack and your teammate upgrades 5 lvl footman defense, your troops get both and you can upgrade to lvl 6 both attack and defense). also units and towers can be upgraded to better units or towers for 10x cost of that unit or tower.

Heroes

Every race has 6 heroes, 2 for every attribute.
hero can be trained in altar of hero if you choose that and hero cost 1 wood so you can only have 1 hero.
max hero level is 1000, hero has 5 spell, 4 normal and 1 attribute bonus, every spell has 20 lvl, every level of attribute bonus is giving hero 10 bonus to his attribute and 5 to other 2 attributes.

There are many items for heroes, shops are in 4 places but they have big range and you can buy item everywhere, there also are recipe shops, there names are level 1, level 2 and etc. aura shop is only for aura items, there are many auras(damage , lifesteal, armor and etc.). and item shop there are orb effect weapons , if you buy this weapons it has special effects and can be upgraded, there is item named weapon it costs 10000 and gives every hero some special effects and also some skills, damage or attack speed. Shop is for normal items that are required by recipes.

Bosses

Bosses are neutral creeps that are on map, they are for money and xp and they are not dropping any items, if boss is killed it will not respawn, money is given only to killer. all bosses have spell immunity

Brood Mother :
hp : 20000
Damage : 500
CD : 2sec
Armor : 20
Gold awarded : 2000

Dire wolf :
Damage : 1000
CD : 1.5sec
HP : 30000
Armor : 40
Gold awarded : 5000

Ursa Warrior
Damage : 2000
CD : 1sec
HP : 50000
Armor : 60
Gold awarded : 10000

Murloc Nightcrawler
Damage : 3000
CD : 1sec
Armor : 80
HP : 75000
Gold awarded : 15000

Satyr Hellcaller
Damage : 2000
CD : 0.5sec
Armor : 100
HP : 100000
Gold awarded : 20000

Razormane Chieftain
Damage : 5000
CD : 0.5sec
Armor : 120
HP : 125000
Gold awarded : 25000

Berserk Wildkin
Damage : 10000
CD : 0.5sec
Armor : 140
HP : 150000
Gold awarded : 35000

Centaur Khan
Damage : 5000
CD : 0.1sec
Armor : 200
HP : 200000
Gold awarded : 50000

Screenshots

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/screen1vu.png
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/screen2pu.png
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/screen3un.png
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/screen4p.png
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/screen5b.png

Credits

Some terrain help : BlinkforFear
almost everything else : ME

 

[SYLAR18]

2 days and not even 1 reply?

 

[Zenonoth]

1-Terrain is so terrible
2-Heroes are not balanced, some heroes can combat others of the same level and triumph over them while their health is still 90%
3-Units that fight each other are not balanced and the good side can easily overpower the evil side
4-The map fails to be an AoS that if it was intended to be one due to a single branch when it is supposed to be at least 3 lest a faction gains the upper hand over the other on one branch
5-Grammar needs improving such as ''satyr hellcaller'' ''dark castle'' ''brood mother'' etc..
6-Spells, Heroes, Models, Map-style are not unique or creative, you seem to be trying to make another AoS map with Blizzard stuff
7-Map lags due to the terrible use of triggers, some triggers have repeated actions when they can all be used in a single one

 

[Urlock]

"Clash of Forces"

Really? That's what you're calling it? Needs a good name.

 

[SYLAR18]

1-Terrain is so terrible
2-Heroes are not balanced, some heroes can combat others of the same level and triumph over them while their health is still 90%
3-Units that fight each other are not balanced and the good side can easily overpower the evil side
4-The map fails to be an AoS that if it was intended to be one due to a single branch when it is supposed to be at least 3 lest a faction gains the upper hand over the other on one branch
5-Grammar needs improving such as ''satyr hellcaller'' ''dark castle'' ''brood mother'' etc..
6-Spells, Heroes, Models, Map-style are not unique or creative, you seem to be trying to make another AoS map with Blizzard stuff
7-Map lags due to the terrible use of triggers, some triggers have repeated actions when they can all be used in a single one

well zenonoth thanks for review, i'll answer some things:
1 , i'm bad at terrain i would like help with that, i had even worse but 1 guy here helped me i forgot his name .
2 , yes ofc there is not much balance its just alpha its like i made map's 1-2% i need new ideas and i need to know what to change add or remove. and tell me what u think is too strong and what is too weak so i can change it please, thanks.
3 , how good side can win? i dont understand what is that big difference if u mean sniper's upgrade thats just i havent add others yet.
4 , no idea what u meant i dont understand that.
5 , i'm not from england sorry tell me what to change and i'll do it. and whats wrong with dark castle? (btw i have started making this map when i was like 14 so i think its quite normal )
6 , i'm not moddeler i make map with blizzards stuff yes for now.
7 , i dont know what else to do with that. i would like help with that too thanks.
you are telling me what is wrong, but i knew many things from this that they are not good like hero balance and terrain but tell me what exactly is wrong so i can fix it.

"Clash of Forces"

Really? That's what you're calling it? Needs a good name.

i was calling it good vs evil i swear, 1 guy here gave me this name idea so its better i think, tell me better and i'll rename thanks for replay.

 

[SYLAR18]

bump?

 

[SYLAR18]

bump

 

[HammerFist132]

dude do u know to you cannot do this. Every1 can do your fucking bump just to your thread get on the top of the list. Whe u get more popular or have good map with many detailed story adn screenshots then your map will have atenction of the others.

 

[SYLAR18]

dude do u know to you cannot do this. Every1 can do your fucking bump just to your thread get on the top of the list. Whe u get more popular or have good map with many detailed story adn screenshots then your map will have atenction of the others.

ok i'll add them thanks for help.

btw i need help with trigger.

• archer 4
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Finishes an upgrade
  • Conditions
    • (Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Archer barracks
  • Actions
    • Set archer1 = (archer1 - 1)

it doesnt work any ideas?

 

[gorillabull]

go host this map on garena or b net

 

[SYLAR18]

go host this map on garena or b net

i have pirated version of wc 3 i'm playing on iccup.com if u know that. i've hosted many times on garena and almost everyone liked it i have heard that ppl were hosting it even after i was not playing wc 3 at all.

 

[SYLAR18]

bump

 

[Luorax]

dude do u know to you cannot do this. Every1 can do your fucking bump just to your thread get on the top of the list.

Everyone is allowed to bump his own thread every... hmm, either 24 or 48 hours. However, not everyone may use words such os "fucking".

 

[SYLAR18]

Everyone is allowed to bump his own thread every... hmm, either 24 or 48 hours. However, not everyone may use words such os "fucking".

ok but anything about my map? lol i gave you rep and u got blue ball

 

[SYLAR18]

bump

 

[SYLAR18]

i'll upload new version today i've changed a lot of things. basically hotkeys and infos, also some balance changes.

EDIT : Done

 

[Catch_ya]

It seems like you are a bit new to mapmaking, anyways you should know that it is totally okay, but what you need to do is practicing. If you keep trying to improve something e.g. terrain then you need to keep trying to make it look good, look at other maps, look at other terrains and get inspiration from it, you can even get inspiration from other games! Good luck to you and don't let the harsh comments above demotivate you. We all start somewhere.

 

[SYLAR18]

It seems like you are a bit new to mapmaking, anyways you should know that it is totally okay, but what you need to do is practicing. If you keep trying to improve something e.g. terrain then you need to keep trying to make it look good, look at other maps, look at other terrains and get inspiration from it, you can even get inspiration from other games! Good luck to you and don't let the harsh comments above demotivate you. We all start somewhere.

y i'm not a pro just learnt everything myself but i'm very bad at terraining i need someone to help me with that and with triggers too cause i dont know how to make them better. other then that i'll just add more things and balance but i cant make new skins icons etc. thats why i've made thread here cause i need help if u could do everything myself then i would do it and not write to you .

 

[SYLAR18]

bump

 

[SYLAR18]

updated to 67 which is very huge update. i've balanced a lot of things fixed bugs and added better descriptions, also hotkeys and some other things. i'll balance and add hotkeys to all hero spells on next version and probably upgrades after that. i was making this few days so i'm a bit tired and decided to upload now and than make another version with fully made hero skills.


EDIT : updated to 0.68, worked 5-6 hours or more, reworked triggers and fixed some things.

EDIT 2 : uploaded 0.69, quick fix for bug.

 

[SYLAR18]

another update, again added and fixed lot of things, added upgrade for ranged units of every race.

 

[darkzxx]

um.. can you attack the images to your first post and then copy the url of the image and post it with the

tags? i can't see it from imageshacks for some reason :3