[Trigger] Cheats?

[Saryeit]

Alright, Im making an RPG and I dont want the programmed cheats to make the RPG easy. Instead, I added my own bit of cheats, and they work fine, but I cannot find a way to disable the other cheats. So, I tried making a defeat trigger. As the events, I made many seperate ones, each containing the text for a cheat. I tested the map, the cheat worked, no defeat. Then I tried adding the text "Cheat enabled!" instead. That also didnt work until I actually typed it.

So, I want to know if there is any way (and what that way is) to disable the programmed cheats, or to make a defeat trigger.

Thanks!

 

[PurplePoot]

If it's a multi player RPG, you could always just disable them from playing it in single player

if bj_isSinglePlayer then
    call EndGame( false )
endif

Otherwise, you could just check to find sudden gold increases, damage nullifications, and so on, I suppose.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

if you are talking about the single player cheats where people type stuff in chat then you need to take the strings that people type in an reverse its effect. so if someone types in the word to add gold, you need to reverse its effect by taking away the gold when the person types it in.

 

[PurplePoot]

What he was saying, GST, as far as I can tell, is that warcraft doesn't let you detect that "iseedeadpeople" or any other cheats are typed in.

 

[Chaos Overlord]

For iseedeadpeople, is there an event "A unit is visible"? If so, you could make a unit, give it no sight range at all, then if that unit becomse visible.... kick 'em..... muwhaahhahahahhaha

 

[PurplePoot]

+put it on a cliff where you wouldn't otherwise be able to find it.

For Greedisgood, just look for gold irregularities, + lumber for leafittome

For whosyourdaddy, detect damage irregularities.

For thereisnospoon, check mana before and after casts.

I don't think there's a way to stop thedudeabides

But other than that, there you are!

In general, though, if it's a multiplayer RPG, just end it if it's in singleplayer. They can play it on LAN with no problem, which is fine, since even singleplayer LAN or BNet doesn't allow cheats.

 

[Wolverabid]

For single player maps this trigger seems to be (partially) effective at combating iseedeadpeople:

• iseedeadpeople
  • Events
    • Time - Every 0.10 seconds of game time
  • Conditions
    • (Fog of war is enabled) Equal to False
    • (Black mask is enabled) Equal to False
  • Actions
    • Visibility - Enable black mask
    • Visibility - Enable fog of war

The trigger ignores chat strings and rather detects if black mask and fog of war are enabled: if so the trigger immediately disables them again. The Mini-Map's contents do still remain visible however.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

What he was saying, GST, as far as I can tell, is that warcraft doesn't let you detect that "iseedeadpeople" or any other cheats are typed in.

seriously?!?!? wow that sucks..

 

[paskovich]

Perhaps, you should detect if the game is a singleplayer or not (LAN, but one person could play) with the code that Purple posted. If the game happens to be a single player one, disable saving, or instantly close the game.
Somewhere in a map init trigger:

• Custom script: if bj_isSinglePlayer then
• Defeat All player (something like that)
• Custom script: endif

 

[PurplePoot]

EndGame(false)

instantly exits the game, without showing scores, which is why I posted it.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Just do not bother removing cheats, it only raises the risk of your map being hacked. It takes me aproximatly 5-6 minutes to reallow single player mode without stopping any triggers, even if the map is protected. If cheats are allowed in singleplayer then I would not need to waste that time enabling them. Same goes for all SP only kicks and such. For SPing MP rpgs all that is needed is that appon detecting a cheat, the save system is disabled and thus the cheating is pointless. The cheats are there for a reason, to give people the choice to use them, disabling them only shows that you can not stand your own map being played. I often use the cheats to quickly test maps or to look at map construction and stuff, then I play MP not being a total noob to the map.

Just do not waste your time disabling them since there is no positive gain.

 

[Codexx]

I disagree, it's the map maker's choice to let there be cheats. I personally would just set up things to counteract the cheats. Like this:

Player 1(red) types an exact message "greedisgood" set Gold to 0

Thus if anyone cheats it actually does them no good, since they would only be hurting themselves

And then of course, I can do things suck as the fog of war trigger above, and I could always disable saving, end the game, or I could even disable control for the player until they retype the cheat, disabling it again.

Of course things like allyourbasearebelongtous ends the level early, so I'd just have to end the game. But even if they turned on god mode, I can still do

player 1(red) types "whosyourdaddy" as an exact math
Disable player control for Player 1(red)
Enable Trigger "no more god mode"
Diable this trigger
and then of course "no more god mode" is
disable saving

Player 1(red) types an exact match "whosyourdaddy"
Enable player control
Enable the 1st trigger
disable this trigger
enable saving

So yeah, it requires work but the map can be set up so that you either end up hurting yourself, or don't get anything out of it.

But if you're making a single player map/campaign it's probably worth it.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

yeh thats what i was talking about doing in my first post, is that not possible?

 

[DragoonZombie]

Simply disable Singleplayer.
Its still playable in Lan mode, where you cant use cheats.
If you try to start in singleplayer defeat the player with the message:
"Play in Lan mode"


Or disable Save/Load in singleplayer (thats actually nonsense)

 

[Pyritie]

Isn't there a thing under Player that lets you turn off cheats? I could've sworn I saw it... or maybe it was in WEU, I don't rememeber.

 

[Just_Spectating]

first of all, is your RPG going to be public? or just something you would just want to play for a one player thing? If so Public u could do a trigger like

• No cheating whosyourdaddy
• Events
  • Player - Player 1(Red) Types a chat message containing (whosyourdaddy)
• Conditions
  • Integer - (Number of Players in(All Players controlled by a User player)) Greater than or equal to 2
• Actions
  • Game - Defeat (Triggering player) with the message: Dont Cheat!

Do that for any player that is playable (all u have to change is the Player event) and for each cheat code. and if its just single player then do the same thing with out the conditions. they can just learn the lesson.

 

[Pyritie]

Do you even bother to read the whole thread? Wc3 doesn't pick up when someone types a cheat. So your trigger would never run, no matter how many times they typed in the cheat.

 

[Just_Spectating]

ok then. do what wolverabid said. i think that would work. if they type in some cheat, make a counteract trigger to it.

 

[Pyritie]

The only problem is how to counteract whosyourdaddy or thereisnospoon et al.

I could've sworn there was something under the Game or Player triggers that let you disable cheats.

 

[Just_Spectating]

The only problem is how to counteract whosyourdaddy or thereisnospoon et al.

I could've sworn there was something under the Game or Player triggers that let you disable cheats.

yah i think i saw that b4 too somewhere