BTNHordeFlagLastOne

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11:48, 12th Sep 2014
Sin'dorei300: Commented.

18:30, 23rd Sep 2014
Sin'dorei300: First of all it's a good idea, coz there aren't too many icons of flags here.
The colorful background is a nice touch.
I appreciate that u're trying to improve this icon. But, as i said, the flag should stand out more, to be detached more from the background.
In its present state, it can't be seen quite clearly in the small icon.
Also, the blood and the flag's emblem are almost the same color and is confusing.
The blood isn't really necessary, you can add, for example, some folds, to look more natural.
The white light (coming from the upper right corner) doesn't help too much the flag to stand out, coz the flag is also white. I suggest u to choose a color that might help the flag to stand out.
Make the details more visible, they almost get lost in the small icon.

16:41, 16th Oct 2014
Sin'dorei300: Well, i see u toned up the colors a bit, but the flag still doesn't stands out enough.

20:14, 2nd Sep 2015
Sin'dorei300: My comment still applies, but i approve this coz it can be useful for someone.

 

[GywGod133]

Cool 5/5

 

[Vinz]

Big/Original Image please.

It's simple and looks good.

 

[Kingluis]

 

[Argos]

Maybe make the flag like torn-apart? Orcs are savage and the flag should be damaged. Also maybe some blood would be cool.

 

[A Void]

Your style reminds of the old Warcraft games such as War1, War2 and Lord of The Clans. Keep it up, +rep.

 

[Go'el]

I think it's cool, but maybe another color would fit it better, you know, change the white part to red and the red part to black. 4/5 +rep

 

[Hemske]

Looks good but it is very stiff and flat due to barely any shading.

You can do it much more interesting by editing a bit.

Take a look at this

for example.

 

[Kingluis]

ty for your opinions


I'll be working on it


updated with some friendly ideas, thank you!

 

[WhiteFang]

Damn this is good. It makes...it makes me want to scream for the HORDE!and bash somebodys skull in.

 

[Vinz]

I like your style and step by step proof.

Though, in my opinion, the previous one was better.

 

[Kingluis]

should I save the previous one as a new btn named "cleanhordeflag" ?


is it ok?

 

[Vinz]

Perhaps. Just a note, the color scheme and the background do not fit for a somewhat unclean horde flag.

 

[Kingluis]

idk what colour I should put on background, any idea?

 

[Vinz]

Reddish brown?

 

[Argos]

I agree with mythic, use some dark red/black/brown color.

 

[Sin'dorei300]

The execution should be smoother, but i think the program you're using doesn't help.
I suggest you to work with another program - Gimp - for example, it's free and good enough. And, after you get familiar with it and read some tutorials(which are in abundance here in Hive), try to define better the figure in the foreground, make the details more visible and improve shading.

 

[Kingluis]

I'm going to work on the background then!


And further lightning and polishing


I decided to add some fire and falling light, is this better?

 

[Argos]

The fiery background looks much better now. I think the light falling on the banner should be removed and do something about banner's trim. Triangles are weird, instead make it torn apart at the bottom.

 

[Hemske]

Kind of like Argos said. Background fits much better now but there is too much going on in front of the banner. The banner should be the focus, not the effects.

 

[Kingluis]

ok then, I'm removing the white lightning and making the botton of the flag less triangulated

 

[Sin'dorei300]

The idea for the bg is cool, but the flag should stand out much more.

 

[Vinz]

Create an outline by using Duplicate Layer -> <color> Clipping Mask -> Merge -> Gaussian Blur

 

[A Void]

The first version was great, the newer ones look terrible. You should upload the older version in the comments.

 

[Heinvers]

I don't think it's worse, it just blends too much with the background now.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

I felt like words can't help you too much, so I've taken some liberty to quickly redraw some things on your icon and explain why I did that, and how I did that in the process. I do realize that my work is sloppy, but it's a five minute work to show you what you can do with very simple changes.

The Process

1. Outlines
First before anything else, I've used a very thin (3 pixels large on 512x512 canvas) black brush to outline just about anything solid in there. This has made everything part from each other, giving an impression that there are solid shapes in there.

2. Focus
Because of the sharp light you've used in there, the icon lost it's balance and kept drawing attention to the top right corner. To balance that out, I've used a slight touch of red and enhanced the colors on the top right bottom of the icon, successfully moving the point of focus on in between these two.

3. Focus 2 & a Light Source
In here, I've decreased the darkness on the left part of the icon, moving focus from the right to the center part of the icon, and this alone has done a lot to reveal your icon. I've also applied some light on the details on the flag, as they were too dark to capture attention.

4. Color
This is a very simple step I've took, but it transformed the icon. A slight touch of red on the details made the whole thing pop up and (I hate myself for saying this BUT) grab even more attention.

(optional) 5. Background
I've sampled this great color of yours to outline the flag and give it more edginess and colors. This is optional, and some may prefer the previous icon more, but I'm already late for work and I can't darken parts of it ATM, so, ...


In the end, the comparison:

I hope this can help you to see what can be done to improve your icon.
Looking forward to your update!

 

[A Void]

I felt like words can't help you too much, so I've taken some liberty to quickly redraw some things on your icon and explain why I did that, and how I did that in the process. I do realize that my work is sloppy, but it's a five minute work to show you what you can do with very simple changes.

The Process

1. Outlines
First before anything else, I've used a very thin (3 pixels large on 512x512 canvas) black brush to outline just about anything solid in there. This has made everything part from each other, giving an impression that there are solid shapes in there.

2. Focus
Because of the sharp light you've used in there, the icon lost it's balance and kept drawing attention to the top right corner. To balance that out, I've used a slight touch of red and enhanced the colors on the top right bottom of the icon, successfully moving the point of focus on in between these two.

3. Focus 2 & a Light Source
In here, I've decreased the darkness on the left part of the icon, moving focus from the right to the center part of the icon, and this alone has done a lot to reveal your icon. I've also applied some light on the details on the flag, as they were too dark to capture attention.

4. Color
This is a very simple step I've took, but it transformed the icon. A slight touch of red on the details made the whole thing pop up and (I hate myself for saying this BUT) grab even more attention.

(optional) 5. Background
I've sampled this great color of yours to outline the flag and give it more edginess and colors. This is optional, and some may prefer the previous icon more, but I'm already late for work and I can't darken parts of it ATM, so, ...


In the end, the comparison:

I hope this can help you to see what can be done to improve your icon.
Looking forward to your update!

your icon is much more grainy. Bad compression or useless sharp..

 

[Argos]

It looks good, but i still think that without that light, it might look better.

 

[Kingluis]

im back to work

 

[Vinz]

It looks good, but i still think that without that light, it might look better.

Yup, the light distracts.

 

[Sin'dorei300]

Better, but it's still faint, tone the colors up a bit and maybe add a contour to stand out moar.

 

[Kingluis]

Good to know this icon is becoming better ^^ I always try to improve


I'm working on it from your tips now

 

[Vinz]

A small (~1px) outline for the banner can help it stand out from the background.

 

[Kingluis]

updated btw

 

[Kingluis]

updated again (sry double post, but moderator posted in the avaliation itself)

 

[Go'el]

It's better and awesome. I vote for approval. 5/5

 

[Sin'dorei300]

I hope these examples can help u :

->

(the second one by Apheraz)

 

[Kingluis]

wow omg! Sin'dorei300 I will never be like you

those skills :O :'( it seems my skills will remain in the TRLE (tomb raider level editor).


oh well... I have no idea how to do that, but I'll try to change some things to look like the last picture


>.< it will take a while

 

[Sin'dorei300]

There's no need to make it like the last(is just an example), but at least make it like the first example.
Also, i was like u at the beginning.

 

[Vinz]

Looks great now. I suggest this be approved and the rating be raised if it improves.

 

[Razosh]

This is a true masterpiece, I love it.

 

[Panda]

Looks nice but maybe add a bit more texture too the actual flag like rips and tares.