BTNBeatstickV4

[Moderator]

15:18, 27th Nov 2011
enjoy: Very nice!

 

[Chucky]

The wood needs to be more of a brown tint and darker. Also remove the background highlights, it looks cheap. 4/5

 

[JollyD]

ohoho nice icon!

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

what do you exactly mean cheap?

 

[Chucky]

I mean it doesn't look right...everything else is worked on and that light is just so simple I can't describe it...

 

[Crayons]

omg this is a bad icon. pyra should reject it for being disgusting.



looks nice ingame. .I think the white background fits the fact that it's a weapon. the highlights make it distinct and people can clearly see that it's a "beatstick". UNLIKE MOST OTHER ICONS.

although the blood looks like jelly. mind darkening it? at least a little. that it can still grab attention through the background?

 

[RiotZ]

The metal looks pretty bad, you need to add much heavier shading to the top piece then add scratches to both pieces. After that fix the blood, it looks like blackberry jam right now.

Also, why aren't you the model moderator? That seems much more suitable.

 

[Chucky]

The metal looks pretty bad, you need to add much heavier shading to the top piece then add scratches to both pieces. After that fix the blood, it looks like blackberry jam right now.

Also, why aren't you the model moderator? That seems much more suitable.

Because he's the icon moderator. Does that answer your question ?

 

[RiotZ]

Because he's the icon moderator. Does that answer your question ?

No.

 

[JollyD]

Why do you off top ? Trolling ?

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

I mean it doesn't look right...everything else is worked on and that light is just so simple I can't describe it...

if you see my tutorial (which this icon comes out from) the glow is merely there to break up the flat black background. there isnt anything special about it. and it doesnt need to be anything special

although the blood looks like jelly. mind darkening it? at least a little. that it can still grab attention through the background?

After that fix the blood, it looks like blackberry jam right now.

i'll see what i can do about the blood and the metal

 

[I3lackDeath]

if you see my tutorial (which this icon comes out from) the glow is merely there to break up the flat black background. there isnt anything special about it. and it doesnt need to be anything special

... Riiiiiight. -.-
Anyhow, don't you think that gray is just way too bold?
Either remove it completely or do something with it, it's adding a huge bunch of "boredom" to the icon itself.

 

[Cakedog345]

Nice work! (But: the blood - looks like is viscous and the metal - looks more like Al or Ag, does not appear to be some hard metal.)

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

updated. fixed metal so it is less chrome, darkened metal and wood. wood bit more saturated, toned downed the grey bg, added scratches to metal

 

[EloTheMan]

Probably the most natural looking icon I have ever seen. 5/5

Can you share a big picture? I wanna know how it looked before re-size (educational intentions)
EDIT: nvm just saw your tutorial :S

 

[RiotZ]

It looks like you fixed the metal? Great work on it, it looks so much better now.

 

[Cakedog345]

Good job! Looks better now!

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Get out of the Hive, Samwise Didier!

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

It looks like you fixed the metal? Great work on it, it looks so much better now.

I just darkened the base colour which increase the contrast. and then i added some more scratches and what not. so it look better i think.

 

[RiotZ]

I just darkened the base colour which increase the contrast. and then i added some more scratches and what not. so it look better i think.

It does indeed.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Nice, although the dripping blood seems a little off, can't quite put my finger on why. Maybe the highlight is too grey?

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Nice, although the dripping blood seems a little off, can't quite put my finger on why. Maybe the highlight is too grey?

It appears purplish to me.

 

[RiotZ]

Nice, although the dripping blood seems a little off, can't quite put my finger on why. Maybe the highlight is too grey?

No no, it's the shadow, it's waaaay too dark purplish like Apheraz said, even in the shadowed part of it, blood would still be relatively shiny.

 

[Chucky]

ahh what I meant was this:



See the cool glow around the items ? That's what I was talking about, your is just so "bleah" if you ask me. That's all...Overall is very nice !

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

ahh what I meant was this:



See the cool glow around the items ? That's what I was talking about, your is just so "bleah" if you ask me. That's all...Overall is very nice !

like I said in the tutorial, you do not need a fancy glow. a beatstick is a weapon carried by like a stupid small town guardsman. its a stupid and simple, but humble, weapon and therefore do not need a spectacular glow of awesome.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

It appears purplish to me.

No no, it's the shadow, it's waaaay too dark purplish like Apheraz said, even in the shadowed part of it, blood would still be relatively shiny.

I don't see any purple. And blood is pretty dark, not pretty shiny.

 

[RiotZ]

I don't see any purple. And blood is pretty dark, not pretty shiny.

Blood is very shiny, even in low light it reflects well because of its density. The problem with this blood is that the highlights are bright enough, and the lowlights aren't the right color, they should be deep red.

This is a very realistic attempt at blood, and good reference, it's not shiny enough, but the complexion and deepness of it is accurate. This picture also depicts it as much thicker than it actually is. Blood is quite thin contrary to popular belief, not that any of you have never seen blood.

 

[Chucky]

Blood is very shiny, even in low light it reflects well because of its density. The problem with this blood is that the highlights are bright enough, and the lowlights aren't the right color, they should be deep red.

This is a very realistic attempt at blood, and good reference, it's not shiny enough, but the complexion and deepness of it is accurate. This picture also depicts it as much thicker than it actually is. Blood is quite thin contrary to popular belief, not that any of you have never seen blood.

Blood becomes thick once it comes in contact with oxygen in time.

 

[RiotZ]

Blood becomes thick once it comes in contact with oxygen in time.

Interesting point, it does then become, quite thick, and sticky.

 

[Crayons]

the blood on the beatstick seems recent, which means it should not be thick and sticky.

 

[RiotZ]

the blood on the beatstick seems recent, which means it should not be thick and sticky.

Yes yes. This is correct.

 

[I3lackDeath]

Looks totally OK to me. I would pick a different colour for the wooden parts or add more colour variety, but that's just me.

However, I still think that the grey background degrades the whole icon. It just doesn't fit together with the club itself, it looks out of place.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

grey glow removed. not too sure if i like it or not. now that i think about it, they are about the same, i think. but who knows. you guys prefered the no glow so. also. the blood. i really dont know what to do with it so. meh. it will have to do as is for now.

...hmmm there is prolly a way to remedy both problems at once. defeats the purpose of the original glow though but whatevers.

also. this is great to see a little discussion going on here. i hope you guys also carry this over to all the other icons in the section. it is good to critique each other and you should all do it more often in the future. mutual critiques are great way to improve upon your skills. i personally prefer valid critiques over flat praises.

 

[I3lackDeath]

grey glow removed. not too sure if i like it or not. now that i think about it, they are about the same, i think. but who knows. you guys prefered the no glow so. also. the blood. i really dont know what to do with it so. meh. it will have to do as is for now.

...hmmm there is prolly a way to remedy both problems at once. defeats the purpose of the original glow though but whatevers.

also. this is great to see a little discussion going on here. i hope you guys also carry this over to all the other icons in the section. it is good to critique each other and you should all do it more often in the future. mutual critiques are great way to improve upon your skills. i personally prefer valid critiques over flat praises.

Looks definitely better, this might be a vaild candidate for upgrades, no?
Bigger, sharper spikes, improved and creative clubhead and (sorry to say this word again) some dangerous glow. XP

I don't see ANYTHING wrong with the blood. It's really hard to show it properly in an icon sized image, and you did a great job on this one.

 

[Crayons]

keep the glow. or pyra would reject this icon for being homo.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

keep the glow. or pyra would reject this icon for being homo.

Um... wat? Please don't troll around, especially not across a mod's resource.

 

[Crayons]

oh wow, this is trolling.

 

[RiotZ]

grey glow removed. not too sure if i like it or not. now that i think about it, they are about the same, i think. but who knows. you guys prefered the no glow so. also. the blood. i really dont know what to do with it so. meh. it will have to do as is for now.

...hmmm there is prolly a way to remedy both problems at once. defeats the purpose of the original glow though but whatevers.

also. this is great to see a little discussion going on here. i hope you guys also carry this over to all the other icons in the section. it is good to critique each other and you should all do it more often in the future. mutual critiques are great way to improve upon your skills. i personally prefer valid critiques over flat praises.

It looks great now. 4\5.

 

[Chucky]

Told ya it was better to remove the white glow

 

[WindowsVistaSucks]

Its a great looking icon. But something about it makes me feel like the wood should be slightly darker. Other than that this is a very well put together icon.

 

[InfernalTater]

Looks great, but the blood is hardly noticeable. 4/5.

 

[Lore-Wolf]

It looks used. very nice :3 Love the blood.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Blood is very shiny, even in low light it reflects well because of its density. The problem with this blood is that the highlights are bright enough, and the lowlights aren't the right color, they should be deep red.

This is a very realistic attempt at blood, and good reference, it's not shiny enough, but the complexion and deepness of it is accurate. This picture also depicts it as much thicker than it actually is. Blood is quite thin contrary to popular belief, not that any of you have never seen blood.

Reflective rather than shiny. Gold is shiny, certain metals are shiny. Blood is reflective, pretty much like all liquids. Surfaces that are wet (read: eyes), are also, obviously, reflective. And (semi-) transparent, smooth stuff is usually reflective as well (read: diamonds) - especially prominent with dark backgrounds. But the concentrated light on liquid surfaces is not shine, because it is hard and accurate, it is reflection - a direct relation to source and target, a mirror. As opposed to gold, where the light spreads across the surface, seemingly made stronger, and shine back at you - shiny. /rant

In that regard, fresh blood is pretty dark with concentrated spots of light reflection. Light reflection is most easily done with hard white, circular or square (with rounded sides according to the shape of the surface), shapes. In this icon, the shapes seem to be more grey than white, they're too large and they blend - shine. However, I do see the problem of making this look right in a tiny icon. I think it would be much better already if you use a darker red tone, even black will work, to be honest. It will better transmit the idea of it being semitransparent and reflective.

Anyway, this is a pretty neat icon. It seems a little empty, in my opinion, without the glow. Good job, nonetheless.

 

[RiotZ]

Reflective rather than shiny. Gold is shiny, certain metals are shiny. Blood is reflective, pretty much like all liquids. Surfaces that are wet (read: eyes), are also, obviously, reflective. And (semi-) transparent, flat stuff is usually reflective as well (read: diamonds) - especially prominent with dark backgrounds. But the concentrated light on liquid surfaces is not shine, because it is hard and accurate, it is reflection - a direct relation to source and target, a mirror. As opposed to gold, where the light spreads across the surface, seemingly made stronger, and shine back at you - shiny. /rant

In that regard, fresh blood is pretty dark with concentrated spots of light reflection. Light reflection is most easily done with hard white, circular or square (with rounded sides according to the shape of the surface), shapes. In this icon, the shapes seem to be more grey than white, they're too large and they blend - shine. However, I do see the problem of making this look right in a tiny icon. I think it would be much better already if you use a darker red tone, even black will work, to be honest. It will better transmit the idea of it being semitransparent and reflective.

Anyway, this is a pretty neat icon. It seems a little empty, in my opinion, without the glow. Good job, nonetheless.

Did you take that from Wikipedia or are you just that smart lol? xD

On another note, will you ever fix the blood Pyra? :|

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

nope. too lazy. and too many different opinions everywhere.

 

[RiotZ]

nope. too lazy. and too many different opinions everywhere.

Yes, I suppose there are.

Cheers to being lazy.

 

[Mgeterno11]

Really nice icon, looks like you did much work on it. It is beautiful, too.
Btw, I saw it in your new tutorial, so i will look at it how did you make it and i will try to make a good sword icon, too.
I are it 5/5

 

[Hemske]

How this icon is not DC is a mystery to me. It is easily one (if not THE one) of the best rendered icons we have here at Hive.

 

[Vinz]

Agreed, we cannot ask for more. <3

Lovely.