[General] AI refuse to work

[Chaosy]

Basically I wanted to make an AI for a campaign of mine. I used the normal AI editor and got a .wai file which I imported and ran with triggers.

The player is the correct race (orc) and is of the type computer.
The .wai file work fine when testing in melee games from the AI editor and as well in a clean test map. However when I add it into my campaign it does nothing.

Someone knows what's up?

 

[Mr. Gameplay Knowledge]

Hmmm...what event contains your trigger for the ai?
EDITn the recent reports with this problem"i can't run ai"was the problem that the event is not periodic...

 

[Chaosy]

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Map initialization
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • AI - Start campaign AI script for Player 2 (Blue): CampOrcAIMission1.wai

It has nothing to do with triggers. As I said it works in my test map but not in the campaign.

 

[Sclammerz]

Does they have enough resources? How many repeat waves?

Edit: I think you it should like this:
[trigger=Trigger]
Events
Map initialization
Conditions
Actions
AI - Start melee AI script for Player 4 (Purple): war3mapImported\PurpleChapterFour.ai
[/trigger]

AI - Start melee AI not Start campaign AI.

I am using it and it works fine.

 

[Chaosy]

As I said it works in the test map why wouldn't it work when I use the exact same stuff in my campaign?

 

[Shar Dundred]

You shouldn't run an AI within the Map Initialization itself - actually, most actions shouldn't have the Initialization event. You should create a new trigger for the AIs and add the "Trigger - Run Trigger" action to it to start the new trigger that runs the AI. Also, use "Run melee AI", as Sclammerz said. Trust me and try it.

If it still doesn't work, I guess the AI is broken or doesn't like the map or something special that has been placed on the map. AI Editor AIs have the tendency to just not function without any reason. Recreating them from scratch is the only option then.

 

[Chaosy]

Nope. Tried the following, didn't make any difference.

• test
  • Events
    • Time - Elapsed game time is 1.00 seconds
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Visibility - Disable fog of war
    • Visibility - Disable black mask
    • AI - Start campaign AI script for Player 6 (Orange): CampOrcAIMission1.wai
    • AI - Start melee AI script for Player 6 (Orange): CampOrcAIMission1.wai

The AI is not corrupted either, I stated many times. The AI works fine in my test map which I have attached.

 

[Shar Dundred]

• test
  • Events
    • Time - Elapsed game time is 1.00 seconds
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Visibility - Disable fog of war
    • Visibility - Disable black mask
    • AI - Start campaign AI script for Player 6 (Orange): CampOrcAIMission1.wai
    • AI - Start melee AI script for Player 6 (Orange): CampOrcAIMission1.wai

What the-

You don't run the .wai, you gotta run the .ai that appears when importing the .wai!

 

[Chaosy]

There is none.

edit: or actually.. I think it's JNGP fucking shit up. Let me check on that..

edit2: JNGP doesn't generate the AI file so I imported it with the vanilla editor. No difference.

 

[Sclammerz]

I just test the test map the reason why it won't work because of 2 things.

1. You run .wai, you must run the .ai and not with AI - Campaign it must be with AI -Melee. Here this is my trigger and it work fine.

Screenie

2. There is no .ai imported so I did open your AI to the AI Editor and check it and it was OK and I use save as and save it then I deleted your imported AI in the map and imported your AI again and two files must be there the .ai and the .wai it should be like this.

image

I tested it and it works fine. I uploaded your test map. Check it.

 

[VeljkoM]

Ok allow me to clear things up:
1) AI works on regular Map;

2) The moment Map is in Campaign Ai refuses to work. I used AI - Melee, AI - Campaign and even basic Blizzard Melee AI. I tried Map Initialization and Time Elapse event and neither work.

3) I actually know WHY AI won't work. It is because when you start campaign map something very strange happens. Player 1 who is set in editor as Human for some reason random, Player Orange is set as Computer but Computer isn't activated at all. AI can't be activated if player slot isn't set to Computer.

The problem is not in the actual AI or .wai/.ai or if trigger turns on campaign or melee AI. Problem is that campaign ignores the Player Slots and refuses to turn on computer player and you can't turn on AI if computer player isn't there.

The only thing I can think of is to make a new campaign and import there campaign maps.

 

[Shar Dundred]

The problem is not in the actual AI or .wai/.ai or if trigger turns on campaign or melee AI. Problem is that campaign ignores the Player Slots and refuses to turn on computer player and you can't turn on AI if computer player isn't there.

The only thing I can think of is to make a new campaign and import there campaign maps.

I see.

You have set to "Fixed Player Settings" in forces from the scenario properties, right? I'm just asking since even simple things like this can be forgotten and precent things from working. This would also explain why Player 1 is set back to random.

If you sent me the campaign, I could look at this matter myself and see if I can find any reason for it.

Edit:

3) I actually know WHY AI won't work. It is because when you start campaign map something very strange happens. Player 1 who is set in editor as Human for some reason random, Player Orange is set as Computer but Computer isn't activated at all. AI can't be activated if player slot isn't set to Computer.

This pretty much sounds like the player settings haven't been set to fixed in the forces tab.

 

[Chaosy]

This pretty much sounds like the player settings haven't been set to fixed in the forces tab.

Confirmed. It works for me now. Rep+

edit: inb4 I can't give you. Sorry.

 

[Shar Dundred]

The problem has been solved, that's all that matters.

Glad I could help.