Skeletal Orc Grunt (Optimized, WC1 & WC2)

tillinghast · Aug 18, 2025

birth axe is not hidden in portrait

loktar · Aug 18, 2025

tillinghast said:
birth axe is not hidden in portrait

Oops, fixed

May add WC2 version later too.

DREADMAN · Aug 18, 2025

Nice optimized

I initially thought that you made a death animation without "Dummy"

loktar · Aug 18, 2025

DREADMAN said:
Nice optimized
I initially thought that you made a death animation without "Dummy"

I tried and failed xD Well, actually, I tried replacing the dummy with a copy of the main mesh, but that didn't really work. Without a dummy isn't really possible, unless you completely change the animation, because the skeleton falls into pieces. You need to have the different pieces attached to independent bones.

DREADMAN · Aug 18, 2025

loktar said:
I tried and failed xD Well, actually, I tried replacing the dummy with a copy of the main mesh, but that didn't really work. Without a dummy isn't really possible, unless you completely change the animation, because the skeleton falls into pieces. You need to have the different pieces attached to independent bones.

This resource has implemented it in some way, you can see it as an example

Dark Minions

Interview Dark Minions are skeletons summoned from the corpses of creatures killed by Banshee Rangers' skill, Dark Arrow. This bundle is an edit of skeletons equipped with Forsaken-style armor and weapons to reflect this background. Preview Features Hand drawn custom texture and...

www.hiveworkshop.com

loktar · Aug 18, 2025

DREADMAN said:
This resource has implemented it in some way, you can see it as an example

Dark Minions

Interview Dark Minions are skeletons summoned from the corpses of creatures killed by Banshee Rangers' skill, Dark Arrow. This bundle is an edit of skeletons equipped with Forsaken-style armor and weapons to reflect this background. Preview Features Hand drawn custom texture and...

www.hiveworkshop.com

Hmm, maybe I'll try again later. Would be nice if the dummy looked the same as the main mesh.

tillinghast · Aug 18, 2025

loktar said:
Hmm, maybe I'll try again later.

each piece would need a parent helper and a child bone to which the mesh is attached
for regular animations you only move/rotate the helpers, for death you freeze the helpers and then move/rotate the bones into a pile on the ground

loktar · Aug 18, 2025

tillinghast said:
each piece would need a parent helper and a child bone to which the mesh is attached
for regular animations you only move/rotate the helpers, for death you freeze the helpers and then move/rotate the bones into a pile on the ground

View attachment 546617

Oh, I see. Will definitely try this. If I can do it this way, the WC1&WC2 versions will be much easier/quicker than if I were to make a copy of the main mesh.

edit: hmm, it's working generally but the thighs/upper legs are being weird and I don't know how to fix it.

deepstrasz · Aug 18, 2025

Warcraft I: Peon with a Grunt's cap.
Warcraft II: Grunt.

loktar · Aug 18, 2025

Alright, removed the dummy, death animation now uses main mesh

Thanks @tillinghast for helping out.

Kotol · Aug 19, 2025

It's good to see you are back to modeling. I hope you will make water elemental and fire elemental from Warcraft: Orcs & Humans soon (Your suggestions about elementals were good but they are not same as good old original game).

loktar · Aug 20, 2025

Kotol said:
It's good to see you are back to modeling. I hope you will make water elemental and fire elemental from Warcraft: Orcs & Humans soon (Your suggestions about elementals were good but they are not same as good old original game).

Problem is I don't know how I would start on them. I can't model from scratch and I don't know what WC3 model I could use as a base. They're so different from anything in WC3 AFAIK.

Kotol · Aug 20, 2025

loktar said:
Problem is I don't know how I would start on them. I can't model from scratch and I don't know what WC3 model I could use as a base. They're so different from anything in WC3 AFAIK.

You can use vanilla Water Elemental as a base model, Water Elemental (Re-Classic) for hands and a female unit model (maybe vanilla Sorceress but hair model is not same) for face. Fire Elemental is much easier than Water Elemental because vanilla elementals are male and Fire Elemental is male too. I understand making elementals are hard but I am sure you can do it.

DREADMAN · Aug 20, 2025

tillinghast said:
each piece would need a parent helper and a child bone to which the mesh is attached
for regular animations you only move/rotate the helpers, for death you freeze the helpers and then move/rotate the bones into a pile on the ground

View attachment 546617

Thanks for the very valuable advice

Thanks to you, the death animation is more natural, and the models weighs 40% less
Before that, I used death animations from this resource, slightly modifying them for my own use:Dark Minions
As a backup option, there was a death animation using "Dummy"

Mortimm · Aug 22, 2025

Pretty cool idea! The more skeletal orcs the better! Loving the variety, gives me an idea for a future project. Hope this inspires you and others to continue cool stuff like this.

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