Warcraft III Reforged Superthread on issues.

PTR Patch 1.36.1 is out and i'm seeing some very interesting fixes, ive been lazy with updating this thread but i guess its time to dust off the outdated stuff, expect various updates to the list, adding of new issues and removal of fixed issues, i will not be involved with PTRing that much this time around but i will move in post 1.36.1 launch, do a giant check of all my info, make the changes, and update the thread.

Sorry for delaying, genuinely.

[The changelog exists both at the start and end of the list]


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Visual tags on each bug represent their status.
Simple to fix. issues marked with this tag are straight up easy to deal with.
Problems that are more challenging to fix.
Problems that require consulting with the community, regardless of difficulty of addressing.
New issues on the PTR. issues that do NOT have this tag exist on 1.32.10 and were not fixed for 1.33.
Desperately required features and redesigns.
Issue has not been tested to the fullest extent of its virality and is possibly but not certainly affecting more.
Issues that are reported on the forums and include clickable links to the posts. (Example: Here.)
Issues we know that exist but due to its nature can not be reproduced easily 100% of the time.
(Note issues with this marker still go through long and riggerous discussions, i dont just write any rarely known potential onzie issue)



• Core:
(That which is related and effects the "ingame" experience of players )

1 - There were Camera lock and Camera rotation features lost from 1.30.1 and 1.31.1 that should be recovered.
▶ The Ability to lock our camera with a hotkey.
▶ The ability to Rotate our Camera in many many more directions.

2 - Scale Projectiles are broken, if a mapmaker adjusts the scaling the game will not reflect it accordingly. The problem is Two fold~ First is that pre Reforged release maps have any adjustment to projectile scaling broken. Second is that for post 1.32 maps the scale projectiles work for pre placed units on the map, but its broken for any new tower, trained unit, or summoned and creature. Here.
Test Map for 1.31.1
Test Map for 1.33

3 - Starfall, Monsoon and all abilities based on it, when trying to set a custom buff with a custom special effects model for it in the process of mapmaking, they always forcefully show the model put on the default buffs.

Problems like this are Game Bugs and it is included in this section because even though it is only reproducible through the World Editor, it is not caused by the world editor program but by the game failing to reflect on changes that it sets. Here.
▶ Download the Map for testing.

4 - Setting multiple unit techtree requirement "items" for Abilities ignores all additional "items" except the first on the list. Here.

▶ How it works in 1.31.1
▶ How it works in 1.32+
▶ Download the Map for testing.

5 - Automatic hotkey display in the descriptions of abilities was a feature added with Reforged, however it has a glaring oversight that is ultimately uncomfortable for custom games mapmakers, the reason its highlighted as a feature is because to fix this issue Blizzard needs to provide an elegant solution to manage it for mapmakers, which makes it a new feature.


6 - Tree models for the HD asset mode are animated as viewable when preplaced through the World Editor. Trees are animated in-game for only one cycle of the stand animation starting when you first see them, then they stop. They should always cycle while in view.

7 - Rain effects in Reforged HD graphics need to be further optimized because they tend to crash maps. Here

8 - The topic on providing a modular download option for Warcraft III Reforged did end up on the Blizzard server as an option to vote for "Reduced Storage Size". This has shifted the conversation to if blizzard can do it safely and the fact that people pull HD material in their SD projects.

So the solutions becomes difficult to address. but it has points that need to be understood:

1 - This is a feature taking advantage of the 19 years that passed that made anything from 1 to 4GB of space an extremely minor to almost non-existent issue as opposed to 24GB (more or less) and it increases accessibility. the feature can be developed in a way that explains the full costs and benefits to people, from there the feature can be developed to allow people to easily download or delete that segment of Reforged at their hearts desire whenever they deem required.

2 - People who use Reforged whether or not they have Reforged HD unlocked have access to create maps and update their projects in HD. There is also the fact that when making such a feature, Reforged icons can and should be excluded from this undertaking and be available to everyone regardless. their size is not going to impact the overall feature.

9 - When the games graphics are set to "SD" we can see that all Ribbon Emitters (RIBB in binary) are rendered darker than they were in all prior versions of Warcraft III (patch 1.31 and below), particle emitters were fixed more or less during the attempt to fix the classic visuals looking too dark, but Ribbon Emitters is still an unfixed remnant of that attempt.
An example, any special effect that uses Ribbon Emitters is plagued by the below issue. and and so is all user generated content using this.


10 - Max Pitch Angle (maxPitch) is a field in the Object Editor that could be used to rotate units by setting it to negative or positive values. this is currently broken in Reforged and it needs to be fixed, and because they are use-able on units that use models, many clever visual tricks and creations are done using this method for custom mapmakers.
▶ Download the Map for testing.


11 - Some area of effect spells like Warstomp have a limit on how many units they can effect, this is troublesome for custom mapmakers, this limit did not exist pre 1.32. this limit should be set to infinite and a bonus field in the object editor made allowing us to control it for all spells alike.



12 - A lot of special effects like Warstomp, Revive and Thunderclap loop their sounds over and over when spawned in via CreateSpecialEffect native even if you stop it a mere moment after creation. The bug only happens for the HD graphics.
▶ Download the Map for testing.

13 - Skins changed through triggers, code and object editor are breakable by spells such as Cyclone.

14 - This special effect model
Abilities\Spells\Undead\DarkSummoning\DarkSummonMissile.mdl
does not play its sound correctly it is not a problem with the model, and it was introduced in patch 1.30.1 if you want a comparison on how the sound should play the HD counterpart of this sounds correct, but the SD counterpart remains broken on the latest version, this is probably a Sound Engine issue.

15 - A Collection of texture and model related issues:

• `Textures\GenericGlow2_mip1` is not aliased to `Textures\GenericGlow2`, despite the copy of the same texture under medivh’s folder being so. File aliases are there to prevent asset duplication and they're governed by `war3.w3mod:filealiases.json`
• The classic Reign of Chaos "Furion" is missing from the game files.
• The classic Reign of Chaos "Flying Machine" is missing from the game files.

16 - A Collection of Natives and pure code related issues: (more extensive report Here.)

• BlzSetUnitWeaponXXXField() natives have their indexes starting at 1 instead of 0, and you cannot modify attack 2 at all.
• SetCameraTargetControllerNoZForPlayer native has around a 500 offset on the Y axis on Reforged compared to previous versions.
• Lua Garbage Collector has certain issues and doesn’t always work correctly.

17 - Players getting replay files are able to double click them to open the file with Reforged in order to view it. however, they need to have the map that the replay belongs to in order for the replay to function, both with double click on the replay file or the manual way of doing it.

Now here's the problem, the map for the replay needs to be in a persons Documents > Warcraft III > Maps folder. i highlighted **needs** because Reforged rightfully allows people to put their map files inside subfolders in the Maps folder to better organize it. so a persons maps folder can be customized like so Documents > Warcraft III > Maps > Custom Maps / TDs / Aeon of Strifes / Tank Battles etc. all these are more new folders in the maps folder. the problem is that if the map related to the replay is in any sub folder inside the Maps folder it will be unable to read and play the replay unless you take the map and put it specifically in NO subfolder and only in the Maps folder. even Reforgeds own Downloads folder inside the Maps folder doesn't work for this.

18 - When you look at anything like abilities, upgrades or the construction icon for workers in Reforged there is a divider line in their description, this was part of an unfinished idea that was never completed, it was meant to be a mere option not a definitive thing, mapmakers could and always have put lines like that, either make it an option for melee only or simply remove it because enforcing options like this is not a good idea.



19 - This is a bug that was first looked at thanks to a bug causing issues with Engineering Upgrade. but i think the main problem isn't related to it, i think Warcraft 3 ability descriptions cant display a number like 1.5 or 2.5 etc... it always needs to be round.

This bug can however be displayed by default using the Engineering Upgrade, because if you look at the ability through the World Editor you'll realize that it upgrades Demolish to deal 2 > 2.5 > 3 > 3.5 damage. but ingame these numbers are simply represented as 2 > 3 > 3.


20 - When Searing Arrows, Cold Arrows and Dark Rangers Black Arrows are used manually through clicking or using it with a hotkey on a target, it is sometimes important to be able to instantly cancel this manual use of the ability to avoid using it during intensive micro managing gameplay situations like professional melee and popular custom games like dota, however, when the ability is used but canceled almost instantly then used again should the players mind change the hero or unit in question using the ability will remain frozen in place for 2-3 seconds.

21 - An ancient bug tested to be present ever since 1.21 (might be older) the issue here is that blocked units either by cliff or other units will still be able to use a waygate from wherever point of the map they may be to travel to the connected waygate. units that are super far away will trigger this bug to happen after a little bit of struggling and being unable to find any path.

Although this is a very old bug, i believe it is a major enough exploit to warrant a fix, especially since it effects campaigns, plus why not fix such a cool mechanic of the game that is used by thousands of custom games, however please tread carefully when fixing especially if its related to pathing, do internal tests and get a hang of the system.

22 - If you make a custom unit with a bouncing attack, and maximum total targets being hit by the attack equals to 2 the projectile hits the main target, bounces to a secondary target and then goes back to the main target.

Problem is only once it hits the original again is the damage dealt to the second target.
No extra damage is dealt to the main target.

Bouncing attacks also reset their Z value to their originally launched value on each bounce too.

So to summarize:
if there's 3 total hits (i.e. 2 bounces), but only 2 targets,
it doesn't happen.

If there's only 2 total hits (i.e. one bounce), then it always happens.



• Multiplayer:
(That which is affects players online experience)
1 - The limit for maps in custom games lobby was suppose to be 512MB however the user interface seems to break slowly the more one tries to upload or download a map of 256MB and above in size.
The pair of images below show the current status vs solution. (Click to zoom)


2 - When a private game is created, the host used to be able to tell the gamename to people privately and they would be able to join it simply by typing the correct name all the while the room in the custom games lobby would remain hidden from randos. we can't do this anymore, inviting people manually 1 by 1 works but its very tedious for the host.

3 - Saving and loading multiplayer custom games were disabled or never fixed/reenabled, we used to have the ability to if:
All players of a custom game with the same map saved a game, left, then all the same players rejoined and tried to load said map everyone would get back in where they left off, pretty useful for RPG maps.... this is no longer possible.

4 - Allowing us to choose which server to host our custom games on is a very important part of making sure we can have a smooth experience playing our game, not only that, you should also be notified that as of now when someone hosts a custom game, regardless of which realm they are on they can be assigned an incorrect server to them that is far further than a closer server, this issue is most common EU realm but most likely not exclusive to them.

5 - The quality and quantity of the servers needs to be increased because the current state of the multiplayer connection quality is very poor. servers in US and Asia or Middle East are deeply required as well as a some form of solution for Australias connection, for EU if it is possible a few more wouldn’t be bad either, lets help wc3 have a good global connection for its diverse population.

6 - Map download speed for Reforged is and feels very handicapped and cumbersome. and it is not the fault of the map files because they have been tried and downloaded by other means far faster.



• World Editor:
(That which is negatively affecting or hindering mapmakers abilities.)

1 - Currently the object editor interface for selecting dds textures is lacking, we require to insert the direct path for each usecase manually, please, just like how .blp shows up by default, make dds textures viewable through dropdown menus where we can select textures in the object editor.

2 - Scaling Values for units and buildings need to be adjustable between SD and HD modes.
The reason this is an issue is because editting the current field automatically adjusts itself to inappropriate values that do not properly reflect an acceptable result for unit sizes ingame. please allow us to adjust scaling value for units and buildings in the object editor ~ specifically. for each mode.
How it is:

How it should be:

(Click to zoom)

3 - There is BLP related crash issues for textures, apparently on models only so far, models that require importing a blp file alongside it. Here.
▶Download Map For Testing
If you check this map you should be getting a crash most of the time

4 - With the new Zoom feature added to the game, Mapmakers need to have direct control over it the image below shows what features we should get. full report Here. (World Editor issue 3 and User Interface issue 1 are connected)


5 - in the world editor > Object Editor > Abilities > Any given ability that summons or morphs units:
Attempt to change the summoned unit type and you will see that the UI is offset.
Fields in question affected by this:
Data - Summoned Unit Type
Data - Alternate Form Unit

Before:

After:


6 - The World Editors model viewer on the left hand side scales the Y coordinate based on its preview window size incorrectly.
Resizing the model preview panel on the left of the World Editor screen changes the preview scale of the model.

Use 1.32 as a frame of reference for 1.33 and you will see the stark differences.



7 - Right click any sound in the World Editors Sound Editor, add set sound as new sound, double-click to change the new sound, change name, save, try to save map aaaand... compile error found. Here.

8 - For mapmakers, there are certain limitations to what they can do in the ways of changing the look of the game between asset modes, for example with maps not being able to set different unit models for SD vs HD, nor create "skins" but only use the skins already in the game.

Allowing us to add skins would help remove all these problems as it would allow mapmakers to specify different graphical attributes for every asset mode using the already-made skin system.
Additionally, it would be very good if some of this became doable from the Object Editor, be it by writing HD assetmode data into the files already used for storing this data, or by introducing new (possibly skin system) files to be used.


• User Interface:
(That which effects the interface of War3 from ingame to the WebUI mainmenus.)

1 - Creating Custom Games in singleplayer of Warcraft 3 used to allow you to switch maps without going back and forth between the menus to choose and create a new map every time. and without needing to set a new game name every time. It also allowed you to change the Advanced Game Options, the maps, and set player and computer properties, ALL in one window. ON TOP of remembering the previously hosted map you chose AND it preserved the setup you did before starting the match if you returned to the same map after finishing it the first time.


The current single player custom games creation method copies the menu setup system of Lan games, and is just unacceptable how cumbersome and unintuitive it is.

2 -

5 - If a loading screen of a custom map has a custom image that is not part of the default game, the description that is written for the map will glitch and show up somewhere offputting at the bottom left hand side. fixing this is crucial because it needlessly doubles the work of mapmakers having to bake descriptions on images instead of writing them. (it also makes supporting localization even harder)



6 - Through the use of the world editor, you can set an image to be the preview that shows up for your map in the custom games lobby section, this was however broken, we should be able to customize our maps previews like we used to be able to.

7 - Even though people have suggested adding a search function to the custom games creation list which would be great, its important for me to highlight that the game used to remember which map you created last time and when you went back it dropped you where you left off, this is no longer the case hence it is a bug.

8 - Hosting privately does not seem to work correctly anymore, how a privately hosted game works is that it does not show its name in the public lobby section, however its accessible if the joining friend types in the correct name in the lobby to enter, this is not working.

9 - Custom Games lobbies player numbers are shown inaccurately because it considers computer players as real humans, so a player can put themselves in a 12p map and fill 10 of it with computer slots and from the outside in there is no indication on whether or not the room is filled by real players or not.

11 - A lost feature on this topic, i will use some visual aid for this one:

would be great to get our Filter Button back for custom games lobbies, lets take a look at what is shown here, and how for the retail product these can be improved or reimagined, but before that i feel like its important to point out that the premise of this Filter panel is that, you get to check several settings for your custom games lobbies, then after clicking ok the lobby remains obedient to those options until cleared out manually.

We have:

12 - A general critique of UI's before the game starts, so i will be mentioning multiple issues in one go:

---- Searching Custom Games whether its creating them for multiplayer or singleplayer should have a functionality where typing the name of the maps in the searchbox will automatically filter and bring appropriate responses.

13 - The ending scorescreens should be redesigned to include customizability features that the original one had and to provide a more fleshed out and full experience. a highlight of the older scorescreens was small race specific icons that custom mapmakers could customize for their maps but was also a simple sign telling melee players what race everyone played as when the match ended.

The ability to customize these small icons exists in the world editor, its just that nothing exists on the scorescreen to reflect that.
aside from the small icon, there was also art pieces shown on the right hand side, there is a singular defeat art piece, there is however 8 different faction specific art pieces, split into two groups of 4 from the Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne days. what the team could do is to randomize these art pieces to show up at the end of each score screen, so if you're a human player and you just won, you can get one of the 2 available human victory screens.

I have created a series of images to help showcase everything regarding this topic:

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14 - Warcraft 3 Reforgeds custom games lobby chat should NOT be a merged entity with battle.nets global chat, i have worked hard with consultation and helps from friends to create examples of this on photoshop to help Blizzard understand what we mean:
From top to bottom order:
Default
Compressed classical redesign
Full redesign.






The Zoom feature introduced with Reforged was initially met with some feedback for improvement. after the PTR it did improve but there is room for more improvement. full report Here.(User Interface issue 1 and World editor issue 3 are connected)






• Custom Campaigns:

Alot of people have made it very clear that the feature of Custom Campaigns needs to come back, but not alot of people have made a suggestion or argument for how this should be done.

The goal of this specifically presented idea is to provide something that is respectful to both the SD and HD audience while addressing details of how this feature was developed previously, and how it can be developed now.

Cost ?
1 - UI creation in Reforged using WebUI a concept that the developers are already familiar with.
2 - Recording videos.
3 - Implementing the World Editor options.

This, is an image of the Custom Campaigns selection area from the Betas:


Below is an example of a redesigned area with a clear design on how everything is presented and functioning.
Make sure to read texts elaborations located in the images.



There is a banner that can be uploaded for each project at the right side and it has a place for writing a short description for the campaign, showing the authors name or battletag and number of missions for the selected campaign.

Now comes in the tricky part, set pieces for the campaign were done using 3D animated backgrounds that were models and all of these were available to customize for Custom Campaign makers through here:

These are all the 11 animated backgrounds we had, warning the image is large.
Now one thing is clear here, Classic SD and Reforged HD need to have their separate places for custom campaigns.
Blizzard can record videos of these animated backgrounds turning them from models to webm format videos, however since these pieces were designed for 4.3 aspect ratio the classic section of custom campaigns will need a UI design specific to it.



Now that there is no such thing as models the World Editor will reflect that.

Keep in mind none of these extra options are exclusive to HD or SD, but they will simply load accordingly to what asset mode players choose.

One more time for time we go back to the Campaign selection area, except this time we select an HD project:

These are simply ideas, but similar to the Classic area, make as much pieces of these UI elements customizable.


The End ? Well, yes, this suggestion abides and moves within the rules and bounderies of what is currently available given the resources and asks for something that requires tweaking and creation of UI all the while using modified existing art assets, AI upscaling and basic video recording, the goal of this idea is to ask for an equal and respectful finalization of a feature without asking or demanding to roll back to using the older UI or implementing things like model display/render on a Webbased UI.

Thank you for reading until the end of my thread, I salute you all, long live Warcraft III.

Credits of people who helped compile the information for this list and have provided feedback:
BogdanW3, Yeran, Damage, Kam, Ralle, Ageron, Fieryfox, Retera, Kacpa2, Spellbound, GrimGrents, InsaneMonster, SgtWinter, Deolrin, Vinz, lord sebas, BEARAND Cyclotrutan and AdinizWarcraft.
Also thanks to. Grubby, Wtii, Back2Warcraft whom produced videos highlighting problems they faced.


Recent Update was deployed on August 15. [The changelog exists both at the start and end of the list]
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