Throwback Challenge

~Void~ · Mar 4, 2013

Hey, did anyone notice? It's been 10 years since RoC came out, and almost the same for TFT. So I had an idea - let's have a throwback challenge.

What does this mean? Well, I've seen so many terrains over the past few years that don't even look like Warcraft anymore. That was cool in 2007, because Warcraft was still a relatively new game and it was fun to see what kind of tricked-out maps you could make with custom models. Now, though, I find the old Warcraft III look very nostalgic and appealing, and the custom models look pretty awful compared to newer modder-friendly games that are coming out.

The conditions are these:

No imported resources
No custom settings/object editor
Must use the standard version of the World Editor (NO newgen, NO miscdata.txt, etc - must be as is from installation)
Must be fully playable
Does not need to be a melee map

This isn't a contest or anything, just a challenge - you'll receive major props from me if you come up with something really creative or just damn well done, for all that's worth.

Who's interested? Come on guys, I even made a banner.

Sin'dorei300 · Mar 5, 2013

This is a great idea, i might make somethin' if i''ll find some time!

PROXY · Mar 5, 2013

No custom settings/object editor means what? you have to work direclty what is given to you, so no scaling of rocks for example?

Deleted member 212788 · Mar 5, 2013

This sounds very interesting, might join in

Celaquil · Mar 5, 2013

While I don't totally agree to the whole "Wc3 is so nostalgic and HQ models look like crap compared to better engines"
I might just have to spew something out for you, since you went through the trouble of actually nudging me about this.

I take it this is a slack challenge with no particular deadline, cause I won't be able to get anything done in at the very least a weeks time or so.

~Void~ · Mar 6, 2013

PROXY said:
No custom settings/object editor means what? you have to work direclty what is given to you, so no scaling of rocks for example?

You can scale them in the editor itself, but only within the default parameters (0.80 to 1.20 for most objects).

Likewise you cannot change the max/min scale, default scale, pitch/roll angles, tint colors, OR PATHING of any object.

2-P said:
Pretty much the worst idea since the holocaust.

Bernkastel said:
Sounds like a big smelly poop.

Then don't participate? Also gtfo my thread.

Celaquil · Mar 7, 2013

Right.
- Now I'm starting to see what's wrong with this.

You expect us to not tint, not roll, not even scale the doodads as we want to?
What other stupid limitations are there, cause I'd like to know em all before I consider
making anything for this challenge.

Oh and playable? In the sense that you want us to provide you the map?
- Not just a screenshot?

PROXY · Mar 7, 2013

I'm really interested in this, though I don't really like those hard limations. But maybe I can make something up.

~Void~ · Mar 10, 2013

Well, the point was to make something that looked like the Warcraft 3 campaign.

But if you guys really are gonna bitch about it, go ahead and scale shit.

(wankers)

SA Dashie · Mar 10, 2013

As long as I am able to change the terrain fog value and am able to be able to switch around the tiles, I will gladly join.

Also lolz at the banner.

PROXY · Mar 10, 2013

~Void~ said:
Well, the point was to make something that looked like the Warcraft 3 campaign.

But if you guys really are gonna bitch about it, go ahead and scale shit.

(wankers)

Well, you made it up like this, so it's gonna be like it. :ogre_datass:

Naze · Mar 14, 2013

Well I'm interested in this, seems quick and fun.

And do you expect the map to be animated and playable in the fashion of a blizzard campaign? Or only the terrain?

I see what you're looking for, just like what we used to do with the World Editor back when we were around 12 (or maybe older, but with little "intimacy" with the WE)!

~Void~ · Mar 20, 2013

Naze said:
Well I'm interested in this, seems quick and fun.

And do you expect the map to be animated and playable in the fashion of a blizzard campaign? Or only the terrain?

Naw you don't have to make triggers or anything. For mine I just made a custom unit to explore the map and put a few enemies in.

I see what you're looking for, just like what we used to do with the World Editor back when we were around 12 (or maybe older, but with little "intimacy" with the WE)!

Totally.

ldragogode297 · Mar 24, 2013

I'm totally gonna try this, and also posting because I'm interested.

ldragogode297 · Mar 24, 2013

Here! It's playable, but for some reason the town hall in the mines area keeps teleporting outside the north entrance.

Edit: Its not uploading. Damn.

SA Dashie · Mar 28, 2013

Do we just post anything entry worth whenever?

MasterTrainer · Mar 28, 2013

This is really interesting! Posting subscribe

Already making my entry...

marko9 · Mar 28, 2013

So cant I enter this one....?

Celaquil · Mar 30, 2013

No, you can't.

The general public is prohibited from entering this contest.
- It's exclusively for non-general members of the public.

DeathChef said:
Do we just post anything entry worth whenever?

Yes.

marko9 · Mar 30, 2013

Keiji said:
No, you can't.

The general public is prohibited from entering this contest.
- It's exclusively for non-general members of the public.

Yes.

Ok then.

xDeathKnightx · Apr 4, 2013

I'll join this, Haven't done anything on warcraft in about a year, this should be interesting to do, plus it will be good to go back to the good old times before all the customization of the editor. Good idea Void.

Just asking, are you allowed to modify the tileset? Or do you have to stick to one specific tileset? I don't mind either way.

SA Dashie · Apr 5, 2013

I believe that there is only the no WE hack tilesets meaning choice for the tileset is limited to the normal WE only.
If we aren't aloud to mix tilesets than I am going to rage even more. D:

Edit: Meh WIP time!

For anyone who could be bothered to open this in WE, any advice would be cool.

Veritas 117 · Apr 5, 2013

DeathChef said:
For anyone who could be bothered to open this in WE, any advice would be cool.

This is looking pretty good. Very regular WC3 like. I assume you are planning on doing something with the waterfalls that are just floating in the middle of nowhere so I won't criticize them.

I think the next step might be to add some rock models to give it a little texture. I like the tileset you used with the snow and it has good tile variation and height differences. All in all a pretty good start, keep it up.

SA Dashie · Apr 5, 2013

The water is actually going to be one of the hardest parts considering how badly touchy Blizzard made it.
Although possible to make different heights of water there are large gaps between the variety.
Another annoying thing about blizzard water when making these kinds of terrains is that the terrain height gets reset.
Blizzard water could have been made so much more better, but oh well all the more challenge for me.

Might finish this terrain off within the next thew days, but we'll see.

SA Dashie · Apr 8, 2013

Here you go.
Should of submitted this terrain ~6 hours ago, although my laziness got the better of me, also considering how many distractions I had.
I am submitting this as a WIP at the moment as the obvious end of the world, edge of the map and I would like to fix that before submitting this to the map section.

Enjoy!
Note that this is a playable terrain.
Criticism always welcome!

SA Dashie · May 22, 2013

Would be cool if I got some feedback.

MasterTrainer · May 22, 2013

Good terrain =D

Gilles · May 31, 2013

The two terrains submitted are almost identical.

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