Zeitgeist

[Toadcop]

Here the link to the documentar movie self. every one should watch it.
(it's NOT bull shit ofc you don't need to belive everything but it have alot of interesting facts)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...81422995115331
here is the official site
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
// you may search in web for version in your language


// maybe someone allready seen it.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

The part about Jesus is interesting and instructive.

The part about 9/11 is REALLY disturbing however... it brings up some convincing aruments...

 

[HINDYhat]

OH SHIT this is all supposed to happen 5 months ago!!! That's quite soon, isn't it?

Listen, I made an annual report on the Amero and the so called "North American Union". Nothing's happening, nothing's going to be happening. The only thing that will happen is a little partnership, called the SPP - Security and Prosperity Partnership, and you probably won't ever know it. This won't make you lose your jobs, won't take your money, or any of that random shit. It will just make things easier for trade agreements, security issues and other problems that might occur in North-America.

http://www.spp.gov

Although one thing simply doesn't make sense. If we're moving towards this union, why are the United States closing up the borders even more? I remember reading that the Amero would start showing up in November 2007... did ANYONE hear about it? Sorta makes me think this ain't going to happen.

 

[Toadcop]

The part about Jesus is interesting and instructive.

yes for me 2.

If we're moving towards this union

i am not moving anywhere xD well the Amero thing is unimportant imho.
+ in truth it makes sense. cause USD is falling.
//4 Strings - Catch a Fall =)

did ANYONE hear about it?

he told the same in the movie xD

 

[HINDYhat]

+ in truth it makes sense. cause USD is falling.

No, it doesn't. If the USD is falling, a monetary union would be the last solution... instead maybe they should start moving their troops OUT of Irak? The 'war' is definitely affecting the US economy (aswell as credit and other shit like that), which is one of the reasons the USD is falling and affecting other traders. Besides, absorbing Mexico's shitty peso definitely would not be a good idea.

he told the same in the movie xD

Yes, except it was predicted to begin in late 2007. I was saying that nothing has happened yet.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

the dollar has halved in value in the last 15 years, its not failing but its not doing well. I know the dollar reached its lowest value sibce the war only a few months back

 

[Sansui]

wow just wow, I have not seen a false documentary filled with that many lies in a long time.
Does anyone seriously buy that shit because if you do i think you should do a little research. The FACTS they present about religion are BULLSHIT.(I'm a Nihilist)

The conspiracy theories on 9/11 and the cover up are debunked claims and completely ignorant to boot.
The columns were not cut, the hijackers are not alive.
the only sources that will ever claim these as facts are tabloids, the truth is there is no cover up the bullet was not magic, you were not anal probed by alien beings.

The USD is actually rising again, or it was last I checked.(at least it iss back above the CAD)
This is a completely natural cycle, actually it was amazing it took this long for another large recession.(it's been falling for atleast 6 years at a steady rate now.)


This entire video is filled with so many lies and bullshit that it made me sick to watch, I think I need to get a cat scan of my brain now to make sure it isnt bleeding from the amount of bullshit in that movie.

 

[Toadcop]

have you see how fast the towers has fallen ? and how PRECISE !

The FACTS they present about religion are BULLSHIT.

which facts can present the religion ? =) // btw i don't saying what there is no "GOD" (a higher might).

This is a completely natural cycle

ofc earning money from you xD. // loled
and the stupid laws in US are the uber lolzor xD

 

[Sansui]

have you see how fast the towers has fallen ? and how PRECISE !

I live in New York. It pisses me off when people make up these fake ass conspiracy theories about how it was fake and a controlled demolition that is ignorance at its fullest. Please look it up and research it, you will discover the pancake effect is exactly what should have happened in that situation.

which facts can present the religion ? =) // btw i don't saying what there is no "GOD" (a higher might).

what?

ofc earning money from you xD. // loled
and the stupid laws in US are the uber lolzor xD

Huh, does that even make sense?

 

[GST_Nemisis]

yeh the movie is full of shit, the whole idea of the film is that you are being decieved by the government and so on but infact it is the film that is decieving you. it uses false sources (half of them arent traceable), anectodal evidence and adopts a style of filming that is designed to plant an idea in your head. the reason people believe this is because they want to believe there is more going on around them than what they see, they want to think that one day they might be whisked off on some magical adventure and that you could topple the governments of the world and free the people, just like MGS3. im not saying that there arent a whole load of cover-ups and corruption in government, im just saying "dont be a fucking retard sheep by jumping on every conspiracy band wagon because theres a little bit of evidence and you want it to be true soooooo badly.". i see religion as the same thing, if we were all athiests and there was no religion and them bam, suddenly one day this guy came up with a great religion that had a little evidence but a few cool ideas then loads of people would suddenly decide to be part of this new fad. ergo scientology. you brain is the greatest imagination machince in the world, and you want all that crazy bullshit to be true because lets be honest, it would be alot more interesting if it was.

 

[Hakeem]

the whole idea of the film is that you are being decieved by the government

Which the government would never do.

infact it is the film that is decieving you.

Yep.

it uses false sources (half of them arent traceable), anectodal evidence and adopts a style of filming that is designed to plant an idea in your head.

It helps if you watch it with someone who has actually done the research, so they can point out the truths and flaws.

the reason people believe this is because they want to believe there is more going on around them than what they see

Hmm?

they want to think that one day they might be whisked off on some magical adventure and that you could topple the governments of the world and free the people

Well we'll always have the numbers to do so, at the very least.

 

[HINDYhat]

I also found out after some really quick research, that the dude who actually made these Amero coins is a professional coin designer by the name of Daniel Carr @ http://www.dc-coin.com. He designed some important pieces out today, but also conceived the fantasy Amero coins. He also says on his site, concerning the Amero coins:

These private-issue fantasy pattern coins will be struck as an annual series (until such time as it is no longer legal to do so), starting in the latter part of 2007.

 

[Hakeem]

Okay, just finished watching it again.

and you probably won't ever know it.

After watching it again, this quote just screams at me.

This won't make you lose your jobs, won't take your money, or any of that random shit.

After watching the movie, this is an obvious misinterpretation.

The FACTS they present about religion are BULLSHIT.

Hello Sansui.

Part I was titled "The Greatest Story Ever Told", and it was mainly about Astronomy, and particularly the astrological signs.
Does the Earth precess? Yes.
"Great year" and "age" are real terms. I'm not far enough north to have experienced the 3 day death myself, but I'd sure like to see it.

The columns were not cut

Really? Because they showed a picture of a column that was clearly cut.
But that picture could have been from anywhere right? Well I haven't been there myself to see such things or hear eyewitness reports, but I can see the videos, and there happens to be an incident in the videos that nails the coffin shut, well, since I believe Newton anyway.

you were not anal probed by alien beings.

Yeah, lump everyone in with the extremists, why not.

yeh the movie is full of shit

Sansui seems to think so as well. I think your both biased against it because it contains a conspiracy theory. I recommend you both watch it again to get a refresh. It sure helped me.

the whole idea of the film is that you are being decieved by the government

"government"? I highly recommend a refresh.

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It seems to me that the most important thing that the movie talked about, and deserves immediate action, is the central bank. That seems to be the lynch pin of the entire plot, and getting rid of it solves more problems than this. I hate to bring up the election, but, Ron Paul FTW!

 

[Sansui]

Really? Because they showed a picture of a column that was clearly cut.
But that picture could have been from anywhere right? Well I haven't been there myself to see such things or hear eyewitness reports, but I can see the videos, and there happens to be an incident in the videos that nails the coffin shut, well, since I believe Newton anyway.

Hakeem... if you believe in physics then the video proves ALL of the conspiracies wrong. As physics proves the towers fell correctly, without it needing to be a controlled demo. Seriously you should look it up at a reputable source.
Oh yes a photo proves everything... I saw a shark jumping out of a mud puddle once.

Oh and the beam couldn't have been cut during cleanup or anything nope it had to have been cut before right...
Because cutting the beams in cleanup would make tooo much sense. lets instead say it wasn't because that explanation is far too simple...

 

[Toadcop]

why does building 7 crashed down ? there were NO plains. only misterious fire. i never saw what metal-concrete buildings does fall due a fire ...
// lol dudes you are indeed lohatrons... pizdiec.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

actually i love consipiracy theories and i try to keep an open mind. the reason i am biased against this film, and so should everyone else be, is because many of the quoted sources are unreliable, anectodal or completely made up. if you are going to put forward an argument at least back it with evidence or reliable sources. one case where i know this has made a big impact is global warming, i believe its not happening from my own personal research and looking at evidence, but 9 out of 10 people who havent done research believe quite firmly that global warming is happening. when you ask why usually the asnwer is because the media or government says so. i dont know whether the government is doing it to make new taxes, or so that companies can make more money somehow or just because scare tactics sell in the media, but i wouldnt rule it out just because its a conspiracy theory.

in this case however, while their may be some thruth in the films points, overall is shit, not because its a consiparcy theory, just because its one that seriously lacks hard evidence.

 

[Hakeem]

Well I don't really care to link any sources to prove the rest of the film, but it doesn't take a whole lot of research to find out that dollar bills don't say "Redeemable in Gold".

 

[Toadcop]

Hakeem it's makes no sense... =) i mean you will never proove something to them.
i created this hread to those one who is interested in such stuff. thats all.