World of Darkness

[Boris_Spider]

Hero Idea (Use Garithos or another mounted-melee hero)

Baron Lightwielder
~Inspiration Aura (Endurance Aura)
~Slash (Hero cleaves target enemy, dealing significant damage)
~??
~??

Help me Cyber...

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[CyberDuelX16]

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Help me Cyber...

I'm going to replace them all here, they seem too generic.
The Duke made me think of him as a moral guy, so all of his abilities are basically based on moral! xD

~Inspire (Active) - Increases Moral of all units in a nearby radius by (xx) per level
~Nobility (Passive) - Moral drop of nearby units is decreased by (xx) percent
~Righteous Strike (Active) - Deals (xx) damage. (xx) depends on the overall moral of Baron Lightbringer + (yy). (yy) being the moral of the closest 4 units divided by 3
~Glory of the Emporer (Active) - All nearby units have their moral increased by 60 and damage increased by 25% for the next 45 seconds.

(1337 Posts ftw!)

 

[Boris_Spider]

I'm going to replace them all here, they seem too generic.
The Duke made me think of him as a moral guy, so all of his abilities are basically based on moral! xD

~Inspire (Active) - Increases Moral of all units in a nearby radius by (xx) per level
~Nobility (Passive) - Moral drop of nearby units is decreased by (xx) percent
~Righteous Strike (Active) - Deals (xx) damage. (xx) depends on the overall moral of Baron Lightbringer + (yy). (yy) being the moral of the closest 4 units divided by 3
~Glory of the Emporer (Active) - All nearby units have their moral increased by 60 and damage increased by 25% for the next 45 seconds.

(1337 Posts ftw!)

That's it!

Use mana as moral. (0-100) All units have a negative mana (moral) regeneration rate. Things such as the inspiration aura can slow down/reverse that degradation. The only possible problem would be all the triggering necessary could cause lag, especially with a 256x256 map during a major battle or battles in terms of fighting increasing moral. You'd be bettter off letting it all drop unless a hero is nearby. Let Inspiration Aura be a passive for all heroes.

~For the hero types:
King
-Duke
-Count
-Baron

Rebel Leader (need name)
-3 names such as " -- the shadowwalker"

The Nuetral players are all "Lords"

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[CyberDuelX16]

That's it!

Use mana as moral. (0-100) All units have a negative mana (moral) regeneration rate. Things such as the inspiration aura can slow down/reverse that degradation. The only possible problem would be all the triggering necessary could cause lag, especially with a 256x256 map during a major battle or battles in terms of fighting increasing moral. You'd be bettter off letting it all drop unless a hero is nearby. Let Inspiration Aura be a passive for all heroes.

I agree it's a good idea, but what about spells?

Rebel Leader (need name)
-3 names such as " -- the shadowwalker"

~ Tyson the Mad
~ Furia the Revolutionary
~ Annan the Impaler

 

[OrangeAngel]

Thanks a ton for those ideas guys ^.^

 

[CyberDuelX16]

No Probs =D

 

[Boris_Spider]

I agree it's a good idea, but what about spells?

The spells drain Moral. The units/heroes spells cost Moral. Hero moral regenerates quickly by default, as they must be the source of inspiration. Note that heroes have 0-1,000 Moral. If their moral drops below 250, they lose their Inspiration Aura.

If that's too complex, then just don't let Hero abilities cost Moral [mana]. Let the cooldown be the cost.

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[CyberDuelX16]

Nah, moral sounds good =)

 

[Boris_Spider]

Nah, moral sounds good =)

What do you mean?

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[CyberDuelX16]

Moral for mana sounds good

 

[OrangeAngel]

I agreee with Cyber i like moral as mana

 

[cleavinghammer]

Maybe you could refit the descriptions of Feedback and Mana Burn to attack morale (somehow). Feedback as morale-draining attack I could see as working for a ghost or particularly horrifying creature.

 

[OrangeAngel]

I'll think about it because their are beasts in that world... Deadly beasts.


KK This is what i got so far for my castle... Yes i have NEVER terrained before just so if you ask

Screenshots

 

[cleavinghammer]

Hmmm... What will you put in the lower right area (with no houses)?

 

[OrangeAngel]

I dont know yet the Barracks is the thing that stands out other than the castle i could put a forge or two in the area...

 

[cleavinghammer]

I'd suggest extending the wall down some more, so you have a "communal square", in which you can put fountains, livestock, shops, etc.

 

[OrangeAngel]

Yeah i will. Thanks for the Idea

 

[OrangeAngel]

I've updated the Screenshot guys i just havent posted it here yet.

Uhhgh... I dont know how terrainers can terrain like they can... I got frustrated after attempting to create a castle.

 

[CyberDuelX16]

Screenshot doesn't work.

Maybe you could refit the descriptions of Feedback and Mana Burn to attack morale (somehow). Feedback as morale-draining attack I could see as working for a ghost or particularly horrifying creature.

He could just create a new spell alltogether BASED on Feedback (haven't used the editor much, have you ). But if this were to be made, it might as well affect all units within a specified or sight range. Makes it more realistic, afterall it wouldn't just terrify the unit it was attacking

 

[Boris_Spider]

Paladin's Temple NUMBER 2
Paladan's Temple
BasicHouse

You may have seen these already, but they would fit the theme in your castle.

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[Nightblade]

Is it just me,or do others think that there are too many houses?And the barracks is too small IMO.

 

[CyberDuelX16]

Can you upload the Sc to Photobucket and post it?

 

[cleavinghammer]

It's not so much that there are too many houses as it is that they're all the same... But if the south wall is moved down some more, it'll creat more space for a wider variety of buildings.

 

[OrangeAngel]

I'll upload the image tommorow

 

[CyberDuelX16]

Thanks. Try to add a moat!

 

[OrangeAngel]

Btw i wish my Moral meter was at 100 =P i'd be finished terraining the map.

 

[CyberDuelX16]

LOL!
Maybe you should recruit a terrainer?
Terraining 256x256 is scary by ones own

 

[Boris_Spider]

I'm not sure what the technology level is, but Project Odin may be a useful addition as a top tier unit/building.

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[OrangeAngel]

I dont think i'd like the Project Odin in my map boris seems to epic... and where would they get it in the first place!?

Newest Screenshot its still a work in progress.

 

[Aslit]

the darkness thing could be done by using the night/day cicle and setting the units night vision as very low
and for unit ideas:
the rebels can be item crafters and stuff, that u need to supply each knd of unit with items
. fanatic: suicide explosive unit :requieres bomb
. bandit: each kill gives u items/money :requires dagger
. recluiter: make nearby cityzens fight for u for a period of time. :requieres megaphone or somthing like that
. assasin: each has a chance to slow/disorient the target :requieres robe


king units
. aphotecary: explosives with area poisoning.
. commander: can summon guards.
. tax recorder: gives periodic money but lowers morale.

these as special units, then u have the vanilla ones

 

[OrangeAngel]

Oh with your thing on project recruitment i thought you were making the units. And i could just Copy and paste the units into my map cause i gotta Terrain my castle then the rest of the map.

 

[Aslit]

ye i can do that, just tell me what units and stuff

 

[OrangeAngel]

Well all the units on the first page and the one you came up with so those are the ones i need created ^.^

 

[Aslit]

ok, ill start working on those tomorrow, but the stats will need to be fixed ofc

 

[OrangeAngel]

K thanks Aslit!

 

[Aslit]

is the map going to use custom models or ill look from the existing ones?

 

[OrangeAngel]

I can put the Custom Models in if i find ones that fit. You can just make the values of the Units/Heroes.

 

[Aslit]

about the food cost of units, u want the map to have huge armies, normal ammount of units, few units?

 

[OrangeAngel]

Huge Armies... Its War so. But not Super Huge. 200 Food limit if possible

 

[Aslit]

i was asking for the food, for example, if a knight usually cost 4 food i could make it cost 2 so u can make more, and so

 

[OrangeAngel]

K go with that Aslit i like it ^.^

 

[Aslit]

do u want to be researchs like upgrades and stuff?
im giving some abilities to units, like slowing target and stuff, and do i make a research for that kinda stuff?

 

[Aslit]

i finished the units in the first page, except the heroes, for other units u ll need to be more specific

 

[OrangeAngel]

What do you mean more specific for the other units?

 

[Aslit]

like, where are they builded, tech required, any ability, function in the race, etc

 

[OrangeAngel]

Are you talking about the ones you came up with?

 

[Aslit]

exactly, from advanced ill need u to change the map settings to enable minimun speed for some units, when u can send some pastebin

 

[OrangeAngel]

hmm? send some pastebin what do you want me to send?

 

[Aslit]

i have 14 units so far, if u want to include something else im here

 

[Boris_Spider]

By the way Orange, use canopy trees in your map. They look better and 'cover' more space.

If you need rivers (non-cliff) I can do that quickly for you. They look better. Just mark where you want the rivers to be (or don't want them), or I could just make the rivers for you.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about. This is CastleBuilder Multirace 4.1 [IceCrown], done by Funness (original author), Crabby_Spider and myself (editors/'co-authors'). The terrain was almost entierly done by myself. In particular, note the waterfalls in the north and the rivers throughout the map. The rivers can be crossable if desired. Note, that redoing terrain after doing what I need to do will no longer be possible. You'll need a whole new map, so either keep a base copy for yourself (and create a variety of terrains) or make sure you really like what you now have.

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