Wh 40k TD Winter Assault

[Daffa]

Please provide a screenshot proof of the permission (for validation) and have the description updated with screenshot and more information of the map.

 

[UreDe4D]

the whole conversation doesn't fit in a screenshot, but i guess this is the essential part.

 

[Daffa]

They haven't receive due credits (Blood Letter). Also, is the sheep model in View Resources in Use is used in the map?

 

[UreDe4D]

sorry this is my first map submission, i wasn't 100% sure what is considered proper credits. i have updated the loading screen and added a credit quest tab. and yes the "sheep" model is used in one of the waves. i also added credits for that in the quests

 

[Daffa]

Refer to Map Submission Rules. In the description, a credit list is mandatory.

EDIT :
Seems to be clear, though please clarify the sheep model.

I'll check the map soon.

 

[Deleted member 247165]

Description lacking. You could pick a thing or two: Map Description - Templates

 

[Daffa]

1. There are inconsistency in the autobanking gold cost, says 20 in quest log and 2/4/6/8 in the tower.
2. Sometimes, it's hard to notice stuck units.
3. No actual explanation in getting lumber, suddenly acquired one after 3rd wave. --> noticed in later wave there are some blue text for the info, but I recommend use Green color instead. Blue blends a lot with the terrain of the inner area.
4. I understand the food cost, but from what I see, most tower cost 2 food and you have 200. Why not 1 each and limit to 100?
5. The design is somewhat chaotic in term of icon vs model. Death Knight icon for Druid of the Claw model with black tint?
6. Buy one life is inconsistent. In quest log says 500, but it's 200.
7. Daemon Prince tower aura activates before the tower finishes construction.

I'd say these are mostly aesthetic issues it somewhat affect the consistency of the map. I just need the fifth and seventh sorted out and the rest are optional, though it will greatly improves the map information consistencies. And to be fair with all those critics, I have to say this map is interesting and has potential, I'd love to see improvements from it.

Map tested with Chaos race.

Also, might want to make that description better. They are the first thing a random user stumbles upon, and if it remains as is, it won't sell out and people will lose interest to try it.

AWAITING UPDATE

 

[UreDe4D]

i will take care of those points, as most of them are a quick fix.

Regarding your last point.
This is just how towers work when you give them auras. It is the same for all other aura towers in the map. i could of course add them by triggers upon finishing, however i'm sort of missing the point on why.
While it might not have been intended this way, I see no harm in having some effect of the tower already during construction. ("It's not a bug, it's a feature" )

I'll think about it again, but please let me know if you still consider it a hard requirement.

 

[Daffa]

i will take care of those points, as most of them are a quick fix.

Regarding your last point.
This is just how towers work when you give them auras. It is the same for all other aura towers in the map. i could of course add them by triggers upon finishing, however i'm sort of missing the point on why.
While it might not have been intended this way, I see no harm in having some effect of the tower already during construction. ("It's not a bug, it's a feature" )

I'll think about it again, but please let me know if you still consider it a hard requirement.

Very well then, I accept the reasoning. Though still on the 5th point

 

[UreDe4D]

i fixed your points, 1 and 6 i corrected, for point 2 i changed enemy unit colors to maroon to make them more visible on the mini map, for 3 i changed the text color and added a sound.

Point 4 i haven't changed yet, however i'm planning to work on that in the future. And for Point 5, i found around 15 towers where i felt the models/icons where really off. It's sort of also a balancing act of matching name/model/icon, which is kind of limited without custom one's.

 

[Daffa]

I don't see why one would really limit themselves on imports. Would you mind explaining why? Icons are not size heavy at the very least, if one wishes to avoid model imports.

 

[UreDe4D]

oh i didn`t mean to say i`m ruling it out, but with what limited time i have i would rather focus on getting a working version first. with the growing capacities on map size on battle net it may definitely be an option for coming versions, just not for now.

 

[Daffa]

Point taken, though would be nice to have a more appropriate icons in place for them ^^

I'll check it on weekend, hopefully.

 

[Daffa]

1. Move! could use a hotkey
2. Abaddon the Destroyer and Defiler lacks a hotkey in tooltips
3. Flamer's tooltip said it can be upgraded, but it can't. it also doesn't have Ensnare, unlike tooltip. Bonus Mech is also lost.
4. Still inconsistency between Quest Log and actual AutoWithdraw/Deposit
5. typing -mech causes air levels to pop up as well
6. The information for commands can be simplified into 1 quest log
7. Zergling gives 100g, intentional?
8. There are multiple tooltip information inconsistencies, which might affect players as it puts them into confusion (found some in Chaos race using Spirit of Hades)
9. For some reason, if creeps are blockaded, they won't destroy the blocking tower

Completed the game this time around. It's almost approvable as far as testing goes, but I would like to request fix into tooltips and the blocking beforehand so people will not be confused mid game and as part of increasing map quality.
AWAITING UPDATE

Patch 1.29 used for replay.

 

[UreDe4D]

1. Move! could use a hotkey ->done
2. Abaddon the Destroyer and Defiler lacks a hotkey in tooltips ->done
3. Flamer's tooltip said it can be upgraded, but it can't. it also doesn't have Ensnare, unlike tooltip. Bonus Mech is also lost. ->unit has been reworked
4. Still inconsistency between Quest Log and actual AutoWithdraw/Deposit -> couldn't find that one
5. typing -mech causes air levels to pop up as well ->done
6. The information for commands can be simplified into 1 quest log ->not changed
7. Zergling gives 100g, intentional? -> yes
8. There are multiple tooltip information inconsistencies, which might affect players as it puts them into confusion (found some in Chaos race using Spirit of Hades) ->done (hopefully I had to change almost all of the tooltips from when i took over the map, so there may still be some error somewhere, but they will of course be fixed over time)
9. For some reason, if creeps are blockaded, they won't destroy the blocking tower -> implemented an anti blocking system, didn't test it extansively, feedback is appreciated

 

[Daffa]

If Chaos Rift is used to blocking the enemy, after they moved, the enemy stops moving along its path. For other towers, it seems to properly function as the creep now kills a tower to bypass them.

Fix this issue, and it's ready to be approved.

 

[Daffa]

@UreDe4D any update?

 

[UreDe4D]

I have updated the map to version 1.4 with some changes i wanted to do anyway. Like i told you i don't know how to fix your issue with the chaos rift, as i cannot reproduce the error. Can you provide me with a replay or sth?

 

[Daffa]

I attached the replay here. It uses the latest 1.30.4 patch.

I think this can be fixed with the unstuck though, but it's concerning since it can be abused to make creeps not moving.

Tell me once you have fixed it, and I'll approve it.

EDIT :

I suggest you look at the NE side of the square so it's easier to get a clear view of the issue. Use fast forward to help.

 

[UreDe4D]

i have updated the map, however i did not create a new Version, so it's still 1.4
Should have fixed the problem with the units not moving.

 

[Daffa]

Approved.

 

[UreDe4D]

Map has been updated, any feedback is appreciated.

 

[Fenris Omen]

It's really cool to see someone picked up this map again! LOVE it!
I just tried it out on reforged and that seemed to be working fine.
can't wait till my friends show up for our yearly post-Xmas LAN to play the hell out of this map again

 

[UreDe4D]

map has been updated to Version 1.6
This time less of a tower balance update, but changed terrain, to make the map better playable for blue, purple, orange and pink spawns.

Also added more potential for mazing

As always, feedback is appreciated

 

[UreDe4D]

updated to version 1.7, mainly bug fixes and balance changes for Space Marines and Imperial Guard