Using TFT spells for RoC??

[SirCurrupted]

** not sure if this is an appropriate post for this section so I appologize in advance if it isn't, I also posted this in custom map section so plz remove if it doesn't belong here **

Hey everyone, I'm completeley new to these boards. From what I've seen of the site this seems like a good place to get helpful input I'm currently working on my first map ever and have no prior experience using WE. That being said... I know how frustraiting it is for people to ask for help and not give you detailed information on thier problem So.... Here is some info:
I'm using RoC world edit, being which after many frustraiting hours I came to realize I could not edit spells in to go with my custom hero's. So after more research I came to understand that the expansion TFT came with a spell editor in it. Well, this was good at first.... seeing as I had more models to pick from for new hero graphics and I could make any spell I wanted have with desired effects however.... after completing the map layout, choosing custom hero's and thier attributes I proceeded to test when it dawned on me that hero's were gaining experience from anywhere on the map. Meaning no matter where they were they were getting exp for creeps and etc killed. Well needless to say this led to many more frustraiting hours before I discovered TFT implemented a new global experience thing. So with that I decided I'd like to finish my map for RoC users which I originally intended for anyhow since some of those users don't get to play many fun new maps being that most good map makers seem to have went to TFT. Anyhow hopefully that explains my situation a bit. Now I'd like to ask....

1. Is there any way to transfer spells/custom spells from a TFT map to ROC map??

2. If there isn't could anyone pls explain in detail how I would go about enhancing spells through triggers (for RoC) and or using triggers so that hero's can use *normal* unit abilities... like cannibalize, bloodlust things of that nature?

3. I know there used to be spell editors for RoC previous to TFT release but to my knowledge there are no working ones left do to latest patch for RoC. Does anyone where I can locate one that is still working ?

Any help or helpful input would be greatly appreciated I really want to finish my map so I can release it for the public to enjoy/dislike lol

Thx Curr

p.s. Detailed responses appreciated even more so

pls don't half read the post and suggest I buy TFT, I want the map for RoC (maybe I should have put this at beginning of post) **although I do have TFT if it is needed in any of the solutions to my questions above**
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[Daelin]

Umm... I guess you are new (wow... such a brilliant comment and... coming from me! :shock, so I will tell you that this stuff was already discussed. I have a link for you: http://www.wc3sear.ch/viewtopic.php?t=4194 . Also, if you want to do triggered spells there are a couple of tutorials. Check the tutorials from www.wc3campaigns.com. Anyway here are two links for them as well: http://www.wc3campaigns.com/showthread.php?t=53124 and http://www.wc3campaigns.com/showthread.php?t=55387 . If you still have questions post here and I will try to answer...

 

[SirCurrupted]

Awesome, I believe this http://maps.worldofwar.net/tutorials?id=33 is Very much what I was looking for daelin. TY :!: I can't say I've gotten it to work although it's the most thourough tutorial I've seen so far for editing spells for RoC. I can't say how much I appreciate you helping me locate this.....atleast I feel like I'm a little closer to finishing this map now LOL. Anyhow If you or anyone else visits http://maps.worldofwar.net/tutorials?id=33
I've read it word for word...and like a few others got lost around the procedure for implementing the new spells in the editor, and then the map. As far as editing them it seems relatively easy... just can't get them back into the Game

Just those last few steps and I will finally get to enjoy the reward of my hours of frustration. keep it coming guys don't fail me now

 

[Daelin]

I didn't actually get what's your problem. So you don't know how to implement TFT spells into ROC? I said that you should try this link http://www.wc3sear.ch/viewtopic.php?t=4194 because it explains it. On the tut, you won't find that. And as I said before, if you don't understand how to make a certain spell just ask here and we might be able to answer. Ah... I simply forgot how few functions ROC has. But oh well, who knows? Maybe spells can be very good even in ROC.

 

[Taur]

and...

if you don't want the global experience thing in TFT, then go to gameplay constants, in the advanced tab and then scroll down, you can see some cool things you can mess around with, scroll down until you see hero: global experience, and change it, you can also mess around with things like heroes gaining movement speed with each agility point, etc. I agree that RoC people don't get many great maps, but if they were hard core warcraft they would have got TFT