Turn Effect in Z-axis

[Mage_Goo]

How to turn effect (doesn't necessarily need to be special effect, could be a unit too) in z-axis?

Like... if you change the angle of a unit, it's rotating it on xy-axis. Can it be done too in Z-axis?

 

[Adiktuz]

I dont think its possible unless the model has an animation for it...

 

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=105830
attach the effect to this model and rotate the model as explained there

 

[Mage_Goo]

http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=105830
attach the effect to this model and rotate the model as explained there

well... it's only work to change the dummy unit z-facing once and if u change it again, it will "flicker to face the wrong direction for an instant" according to that person explanation.
What I want to create is a spell that will make the caster rolling, then make all enemy that get in it's way to 'tossed', basically just make it jump in parabolic movement, but also make it roll in z-axis. If i just make it rotate in xy axis, it's just.. weird. and if i didn't rotate it, it looks unrealistic and plain.
I can use that method for caster, just set the caster model in trigger header, then when the caster cast it, hide it, create dummy unit wit that caster model attached into it, then rolls that dummy unit. but for the enemy, it's... very hard, if not impossible, to do it with this way.
any other ideas?

 

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

make a dummy which has an animated attachment point which moves exactly as you said and use it for cyclone (unit will automatically be attached to the dummy)
but you will need to know how to do that in order to do it
there also is a dummy somewhere which has 180 animations (every animation is rotated by 2 degrees) and this way has no flickering but you can't turn in all directions and you will have to attach an effect to it as well

 

[Mage_Goo]

make a dummy which has an animated attachment point which moves exactly as you said and use it for cyclone (unit will automatically be attached to the dummy)

um... what cyclone?

there also is a dummy somewhere which has 180 animations (every animation is rotated by 2 degrees) and this way has no flickering but you can't turn in all directions and you will have to attach an effect to it as well

there's dummy unit like that? wow. Gonna make a search for it.
but still, i can't make a random unit rotating in z-axis...

 

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

um... what cyclone?

nightelf druids have a spell called "cyclone"
it uses a model with attachment point (which you can look up under the spells buffs) to make the target of ability fly and rotate
you can replace that model with your own one to have any movement you want
after the spell is done you should move the target with trigger because you just get the animation but no movement from cyclone alone

there's dummy unit like that? wow. Gonna make a search for it.
but still, i can't make a random unit rotating in z-axis...

you can save the model of every unit type in for example a hashtable and load it as you need it

 

[Mage_Goo]

nightelf druids have a spell called "cyclone"
it uses a model with attachment point (which you can look up under the spells buffs) to make the target of ability fly and rotate
you can replace that model with your own one to have any movement you want
after the spell is done you should move the target with trigger because you just get the animation but no movement from cyclone alone

well, cyclone rotate the target unit in xy-axis.

you can save the model of every unit type in for example a hashtable and load it as you need it

it will greatly reduce the portability of the spell...every time i add unit or model, or change it, i need to go into that hashtable and change it. very inconvenient.

 

[Adiktuz]

well, its inconvenient but you don't have a more convenient method to do it...

 

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

well, cyclone rotate the target unit in xy-axis.

that's why I said you need a custom animated model for it
with cyclone you can move any unit in the pattern you animated

it will greatly reduce the portability of the spell...every time i add unit or model, or change it, i need to go into that hashtable and change it. very inconvenient.

feel free to think of an easier solution

but imho it is not much work
you will need one line of code per unit but for every unit you create you will have much more work than just setting a single line to something
also you can use the data for other cool spells
and maybe someone can write you a script to extract all these data for you

 

[Mage_Goo]

Sorry for the late reply, I've been testing this:

that's why I said you need a custom animated model for it
with cyclone you can move any unit in the pattern you animated

with many wc3 default model and find nothing that can make the unit to 'roll'. well, I think I'll use the custom model for this... just change the cyclone a bit.

but imho it is not much work
you will need one line of code per unit but for every unit you create you will have much more work than just setting a single line to something
also you can use the data for other cool spells
and maybe someone can write you a script to extract all these data for you

my laziness suggest me to not do it . well, I'll use the first method.
Thanks for the suggestion