[Trigger] Trying to make heroes learn random spells

[Demonex]

Hi. I want heroes to learn random spells when they're created. I Made these triggers and for some reason they don't work. Can't figure out what's wrong with them.

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[Chaosy]

Should work.

Though I am not entirely certain that the enters region event works when spawning a unit in it.

 

[Dr Super Good]

If you mean learn as in allocate a skill point to one of a heroes many learnable abilities then your triggers will not work as you are adding the ability instead of learning the ability. Learning an ability is an order of sorts that is issued to the unit.

If you mean learn as in add an ability to a unit then yes the triggers will work.

 

[Demonex]

If you mean learn as in allocate a skill point to one of a heroes many learnable abilities then your triggers will not work as you are adding the ability instead of learning the ability. Learning an ability is an order of sorts that is issued to the unit.

If you mean learn as in add an ability to a unit then yes the triggers will work.

Nay I want to add abilities not upgrade them and those triggers don't work.

I think it's "Unit - Add Offensive_abilities[(Random integer number between 1 and 3)] to (Entering unit)" that is broken because any other actions work.

 

[Dr Super Good]

That should work. Maybe post the map as there could be other problems?

 

[Demonex]

Alrighty. It's very kind of you to help me out.

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[Dr Super Good]

Trigger works perfectly. You cannot add hero abilities. Turning the abilities into non-hero abilities (hero ability is false) allows them to be added to the unit with triggers.

 

[Demonex]

The thing is I'd like heroes to be able to upgrade their skills. Any idea how to do so?

 

[Xonok]

There is one way, but it's not pleasant.
If an ability has not been learned yet, it can be replaced with Engineering Upgrade.
Put untrainable(req. level 999) dummy abilities in every slot, then swap them out through engineering upgrade.
If you set up Engineering Upgrade right, you can just add and remove it once to swap the ability permanently.
"Right" means that while normally you would put the initial ability in the first slot and the replaced one in the second, I would put them the other way around. The advantage is that you won't have to hide the engineering upgrade button that way.
The reason it's not pleasant is that you will need lots of abilities for this unless you limit choices a lot.

 

[Dr Super Good]

The thing is I'd like heroes to be able to upgrade their skills. Any idea how to do so?

Not possible. You cannot add hero abilities to a unit.

You will need to trigger another way of levelling up the non-hero abilities. Like what most hero customization maps do.

 

[Xonok]

DSG, read my previous most. It is very much possible and I've done it.

 

[Demonex]

Think i'll allow players to upgrade their spells by buying them. I'll remove the spell and add an upgraded version of it to their heroes.

 

[Xonok]

You can use ability levels even if it isn't a hero ability. Less abilities.

 

[Dr Super Good]

It is very much possible and I've done it.

Except...

The reason it's not pleasant is that you will need lots of abilities for this unless you limit choices a lot.

Hence it is not really possible. It is only possible if one "limit choices a lot". One could also create many different hero unit types with different hero abilities and randomly choose them and this also is only possible if one limits choices a lot.

Think i'll allow players to upgrade their spells by buying them. I'll remove the spell and add an upgraded version of it to their heroes.

This approach works quite well, seen it in a lot of "custom hero" maps.

 

[Xonok]

You don't necessarily have to limit the choices so much. You can organize all those abilities with a system. It's not particularly expensive despite the number of abilities.
The hard part is generating and maintaining them.