[Trigger] Trigger that detects if a lot of peasants died in a small time frame

[dontsnoozeondalose]

Is there a way to trigger to detect this. Let's say you lost 5 peasants in 1 minute.

Is there a way to check this?

 

[The Count]

do you mean track it?

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Dies
  • Conditions
    • (Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Peasant
  • Actions
    • Set peasantsdead = (peasantsdead + 1)

peasantsdead will be the amount of peasants that have died
then simply use a timer to set the time frame, resetting the interger.

• Untitled Trigger 002
  • Events
    • Time - Elapsed game time is 5.00 seconds
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Countdown Timer - Start PeasentTimer as a Repeating timer that will expire in 60.00 seconds

• Untitled Trigger 003
  • Events
    • Time - PeasentTimer expires
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Set peasantsdead = 0

 

[Xonok]

Your solution will not work properly. You'll need one timer per peasant death or a looping trigger.

 

[Shadow Fury]

This should work instead. Use an array countdown timer variable of size 5 and do this:

• Peasant Dies
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Dies
  • Conditions
    • (Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Peasant
  • Actions
    • Set peasantsdead = (peasantsdead + 1)
    • Countdown Timer - Start PeasantTimer[peasantsdead] as a One-shot timer that will expire in 60.00 seconds
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • peasantsdead Greater than or equal to 5
      • Then - Actions
        • Do what you want here...
      • Else - Actions

If it is supposed to run once only then turn off this trigger when the peasantsdead reach 5.

• Timer Expires
  • Events
    • Time - PeasantTimer[1] expires
    • Time - PeasantTimer[2] expires
    • Time - PeasantTimer[3] expires
    • Time - PeasantTimer[4] expires
    • Time - PeasantTimer[5] expires
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Set peasantsdead = (peasantsdead - 1)

So if a peasant died and 60 seconds have passed, it will be removed from the peasants dead in the last minute.

 

[Xonok]

This solution will overwrite timers, causing the counter to increase indefinitely and never come back down.

 

[Shadow Fury]

This solution will overwrite timers, causing the counter to increase indefinitely and never come back down.

Just when I posted the triggers I thought about this... let me think about a solution.

 

[ivofena]

Just when I posted the triggers I thought about this... let me think about a solution.

What is there to think about, just index it (use arrays or hash tables). If I was home right now I would do it myself, and if there isn't a solution that works posted by the time I get home, I'll post one.

Edit: Ok, I'm home, and it seems that no one has posted a working solution, so I guess that I'll be the first. Here are 2 simple triggers + attached test map. For those who can follow the array's path of logic, this is simplicity itself. The system should be working for all players (including Neutral Passive, Neutral Hostile, Neutral Extra and Neutral Victim). I have done some tests and it seems to be working properly, but if someone finds a glitch, please let me know. Thank you.

Edit_2: Ops, made a little mistake in one of the lines. Don't mind the the triggers or the map, I'll fix them when I get home from work. (Sorry, I'm not perfect. )

Edit_3: Fixed. Now you can mind the triggers and the attached map.

Triggers:

• Trigger
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Dies
  • Conditions
    • (Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Peasant
  • Actions
    • Set index = (index + 1)
    • Set owner[index] = (Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))
    • Set timer[index] = 60.00
    • Set owner_index[(Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))] = (owner_index[(Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))] + 1)
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • owner_index[(Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))] Equal to 5
      • Then - Actions
        • For each (Integer integer) from 1 to index, do (Actions)
          • Loop - Actions
            • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
              • If - Conditions
                • owner[integer] Equal to (Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))
              • Then - Actions
                • Set owner[integer] = owner[index]
                • Set timer[integer] = timer[index]
                • Set index = (index - 1)
                • Set integer = (integer - 1)
              • Else - Actions
                • Do nothing
        • Set owner_index[(Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))] = 0
        • -------- Place your action here \/ --------
        • Game - Display to (All players matching ((Matching player) Equal to (Owner of (Triggering unit)))) the text: Five of your Peasan...
        • -------- Place your action here /\ --------
      • Else - Actions
        • Do nothing
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Trigger Loop <gen> is on) Equal to False
      • Then - Actions
        • Trigger - Turn on Trigger Loop <gen>
      • Else - Actions
        • Do nothing

• Trigger Loop
  • Events
    • Time - Every 1.00 seconds of game time
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • For each (Integer integer) from 1 to index, do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Set timer[integer] = (timer[integer] - 1.00)
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • timer[integer] Equal to 0.00
          • Then - Actions
            • Set owner_index[owner[integer]] = (owner_index[owner[integer]] - 1)
            • Set owner[integer] = owner[index]
            • Set timer[integer] = timer[index]
            • Set index = (index - 1)
            • Set integer = (integer - 1)
          • Else - Actions
            • Do nothing
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • index Equal to 0
      • Then - Actions
        • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)
      • Else - Actions
        • Do nothing

Name --- Type --- Initial Value:


index --- Integer --- 0 (Default)

integer --- Integer --- 0 (Default)

owner --- Integer Array (1) --- 0 (Default)

timer --- Real Array (1) --- 0 (Default)

owner_index --- Integer Array (16) --- 0 (Default)

 

[Dr Super Good]

One approach would be an Infinite Impulse Response filter of the period or frequency between deaths. Death frequency is then 1 / T where T is determined period. For example 5 peasants within 1 minute would be a frequency greater than 0.08333 Hz or a period less than 12 seconds.

The only down side of this is the mechanics of an IIR filter. The filter has to be stable for all possible input values and it must have a response function such that it does not get strange values if multiple units die at once. One logically puts a range test on the output of the filter to determine when such a kill frequency is achieved.

 

[ivofena]

One approach would be an Infinite Impulse Response filter of the period or frequency between deaths. Death frequency is then 1 / T where T is determined period. For example 5 peasants within 1 minute would be a frequency greater than 0.08333 Hz or a period less than 12 seconds.

The only down side of this is the mechanics of an IIR filter. The filter has to be stable for all possible input values and it must have a response function such that it does not get strange values if multiple units die at once. One logically puts a range test on the output of the filter to determine when such a kill frequency is achieved.

Dude, you're making this sound way too complicated (not sure if he/she would understand you ). That's why the system I made is (like I said earlier) simplicity itself and it works fine.

 

[kharza]

Trigger

There is another soltion. Just make 5 timers, if a unit of that type dies the one of the timers start. The timers turn off after 60 seconds. ( make sure that your trigger won´t restart a running timer ). If all the timers are turned on make your action and turn off the timer which has the least time left.
But keep in mind that if 10 peasants die in that 1 min this way your action will occur 6 times. If you dont want it so, then turn off all the timers when your action is ordered.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Some form of control based system should still be more efficient.

 

[kharza]

You don´t like simple solutions.

 

[Dr Super Good]

There is no way a massively complex set of timers is more simple than your every day control algorithm. It is like saying we need to construct a huge massive motorway bridge over a river when stepping stones would do.