The Weirdo

[Moderator]

17:57, 13th Sep 2014
Orcnet:

I'm not quite sure on how or why you made this as a weird, since most of the map is covered with modern warfare models and replace every unit's default with such design, I was expecting something different but since it looks odd. Anyhow can be approved due to its design but atleast give in a quest menu in the changes and somehow give in some abilities that can be unique to the original and others.

 

[JCarrill0]

I'm confused, since you named wc4, where does this story take place?
An alternate timeline? Right after wc3, after WoW?
I would just removed the wc4 section imo.

 

[taavidude]

Yeah im thinking the same thing. I mean what does this have to do with warcraft 4? Its more like starcraft.

 

[CamboStrike]

Hmm.. Guys, I didn't really think of the storyline behind it honestly ^_^. I was thinking of creating some custom races with alien technology(wc3+alien). It's more like the 4 races in wc3 go back in time from the future & fight for their own dominions.

 

[JCarrill0]

Hmm.. Guys, I didn't really think of the storyline behind it honestly ^_^. I was thinking of creating some custom races with alien technology(wc3+alien). It's more like the 4 races in wc3 go back in time from the future & fight for their own dominions.

cool, great idea...

change the name by removing "WC4"

 

[Heinvers]

WHAT? It's like Star Wars stumbled upon starcraft landing on Azeroth. After that Halo came with a lil' bit of taste from Star Threk! WOW. It's just unexpected^^

 

[JCarrill0]

WHAT? It's like Star Wars stumbled upon starcraft landing on Azeroth. After that Halo came with a lil' bit of taste from Star Threk! WOW. It's just unexpected^^

I know, that's why I was wondering why it was called warcraft 4! Closer to starcraft imo

 

[CamboStrike]

name changed. Hope you guys enjoy the map.. ^_^

 

[JCarrill0]

name changed. Hope you guys enjoy the map.. ^_^

I will review it in the near future if our current officials do not.

 

[CamboStrike]

I will review it in the near future if our current officials do not.

Thanks. People here at hive are nice as always... ^_^

 

[JCarrill0]

Thanks. People here at hive are nice as always... ^_^

OFC! I have played your map, but I havent actually paid attention to all the details, and to be fair, I'm a pretty hard critic, so I tend to wait a bit unless its directly what I am interested in. I actually stumbled across this and though.. "wow cool idea!"

 

[CamboStrike]

OFC! I have played your map, but I havent actually paid attention to all the details, and to be fair, I'm a pretty hard critic, so I tend to wait a bit unless its directly what I am interested in. I actually stumbled across this and though.. "wow cool idea!"

All kind of comments would be appreciated ^_^

 

[JCarrill0]

Cool, an update?

 

[CamboStrike]

Cool, an update?

Just a small update on tree model..
But believe me it does refresh the game play experience.. ^_^

 

[Shadow Fury]

Not really a good map to me. I appreciated the recipe system but still this map has many negative things:-

BAD POINTS:-
- Well, having a look at the triggers, I don't understand why putting "Limit "Hero" for Player 1/2/3/4... while you could have picked them all with Player Group and packed 12 commands into 1 only
- Then, I don't understand what's the meaning of changing the models of all units if they still have everything untouched. It's just taking space (about 6 MB) for nothing and it's not worth in my opinion
- The abilities for the heroes aren't all custom. Some are just the old ones which you gave to the heroes and some other abilities say "Tooltip missing" when I come to learn them. That's because nothing was written in "Text - Tooltip - Learn - Extended"
- Looking at the recipes, I found something quite strange. If I get a Ring of Regeneration + Ring of Protection +1 I get Jade Ring. If I get Ring of Regeneration + Ring of Protection +4, I still get Jade Ring. It's incorrect. Why should a stronger item give Jade Ring when even a weaker one can do so? It's pretty unfair for me. The same applies for the claws of attack and orb of frost and for the rest

SUGGESTIONS:-
- I'd firstly say to use Player Group command to pick all players and limit the heroes to every player in one command only
- I find it a bad idea to waste 6 MB just for giving a new fancy aspect to all units. To make them worth enough, it's better to change some things in all units like attack, cooldown, HP... Otherwise, you just enlarge the filesize for nothing. It may give that futuristic look of Star Trek, Starcraft and, what you call, "Warcraft 4" but it's totally bad to enlarge the filesize by 6 MB for this reason only
- When you are making custom heroes, all abiltiies shall be custom as well, not a mixture of custom and old ones
- For the items, you can make them more powerful as you get stronger combo items. For example, if you get the Ring of Protection +1, it will give a +5 armor Jade Ring. For Ring of Protection +2, a +6 armor Jade Ring and so on. That woud be fair and professional
- Now this is personal and I'll not count it in my review, but I must say I don't like to see those tree-flowers in the map. The map is called "The Weirdo" I know yet I can't like them. You might consider replacing them with other kinds of trees but that's optional and I'll not force you

OVERALL RESULT
To conclude, I think this map is quite promising so I don't want to vote for rejection. Unluckily, in its current state, I can't even vote for approval. Let's say I give it 2/5 and AWAIT UPDATE!

 

[CamboStrike]

Map has been updated.

Thank you for your feedback. Thank to you I've been able to fixed many things such as:
- Fixed attacked art of most units.
- Fixed trigger to use one command.
For some other of your suggestions I'm currently working on them and It's really hard for me as a new mapper you know. But I'll do what I can to present to you guys a good map to enjoy... sorry for many lacking..

[Edit]
Map updated:
- Custom heroes were removed
- Added 3 neutral passive heroes to tavern (Tinker, Alchemist, Firelord)
Future update:
- More item based abilities (spells)

[Edit 2014-07-11]
Map updated (Fixed recipes system as suggested). Please enjoy the map! ^_^

[Edit 2014-07-19]
Map updated (Please see change log for details).

[Edit 2014-07-20]
Map updated (Please see change log for details). Hmm.. Anyone interested in testing and provide a review please? :'(

 

[Orcnet]

Map approved.

 

[Misha]

how does this make any sense?

 

[CamboStrike]

The newest update with latest models and arts ^_^...

 

[JCarrill0]

Reforged or just classic?

 

[CamboStrike]

Reforged or just classic?

it's for classic

 

[CamboStrike]

Here is a beta version. More to be done. But it's quite playable and enjoyable.... ^_^