The US Government Shutdown

[BlackEnvyX]

The topic had to be made.
So, who's to blame. Who should concede? Is there any clear cut way to solve the problems.
More importantly, what can be done to fix the US economy?

What do you guys think.

 

[chobibo]

It would be great if you could give us (we who don't live there) a bit of information, as I don't trust the accuracy of reports getting here through the local media.

 

[BlackEnvyX]

It would be great if you could give us (we who don't live there) a bit of information, as I don't trust the accuracy of reports getting here through the local media.

Basically (at least from what I've researched) it's Republicans vs Obama. Obama wants Obamacare to go through regardless of the high costs and inherent flaws it has. Republicans want Obamacare to be completely scrapped. Both sides are playing the blame game.

Along with this, there's a huge debate over the debt ceiling. Republican's don't want the debt ceiling to rise anymore, they want to cut spending to help reduce the debt.

I'm not a republican or a democrat (personally I think political parties are one of the reasons why the US is in the shitter economically right now), but I've been mostly siding with the republicans in terms of the debate.

 

[Statharas]

What the reps want to do is right, but I don't see any gains besides inconvenienced citizens.

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Of course those are responsible who doesn't want things to go forward.

 

[fladdermasken]

Of course those are responsible who doesn't want things to go forward.

What if forward means going down a ditch?

 

[Aeroblyctos]

What if forward means going down a ditch?

That is then of course a different thing.

 

[Footman16]

I don't see how anyone could agree with anything the republicans do or say. Obama is merely taking the first steps in the process of an American NHS which is one of the best things that could happen to the USA in a long time.

 

[mikeisman2]

My biggest problem with Obama-care is the stipulations they put on part-time jobs and full-time. How people cant work a certain amount of hours a week. well if a companies gonna be paying for someone to work full time and they cant get that many hours out of them let me ask you would you keep paying that person the same amount if you could just give them half the hours by hiring them part time and reduce their pay and hire someone else part time as well and reduce your costs and get 2 people to do the same job instead of one or pay one person more than both of them combined and have them be a full time employee and required to provide them benefits as well. its ridiculous yeah he opened the job market for part time employment not actual jobs i might as well not finish college and just get 3 jobs at different fast food places because in my eyes that the equivalent. Obama is destroying this countries stability giving us enormous amounts of debt for no reason in the long run and is the devil.

 

[Footman16]

You obviously don't understand the concept of socialism and what Obama is doing. By increasing the pay to work ratio he is making it easier for poorer people to earn money and actually get out of the ridiculous poverty they exist in. America is a terrible place and at least Obama is trying to change that. America has never had stability and calling him the devil is a little extreme. About the long term debt I doubt a republican government would do anything to help the situation. Obama is doing what he can and the republicans are screwing it up for the sake of their own greed and evilness. If you want to describe anyone of being the devil them it's the republicans.

 

[Heinvers]

What a good pretext for not working)

 

[Nuclear]

Hehe, when you say "Obama is the devil", you've suddenly lost every bit of credibility you ever might have had.

 

[saphiree]

Higher taxes..

 

[monicaB]

Is that for real? There is a government shutdown?

 

[Statharas]

I shall be the good guy here.

Is that for real? There is a government shutdown?

Thread date: 10-08-2013, 10:57 PM

 

[gorillabull]

Is that why it got banned?