The Rescue of Halahk v8.0b

[BlackKnightTGS]

Yeah, I forgot to set "Turns off Other Abilities" to False, and well...it bugs, pauses him :\ Gonna fix it in the next version along with the techtree.
So this time you'll use the unprotected maps review base, right?
And alright, I'll tell you

 

[Dejavuu]

Once you have the tech-tree in it, I'm gonna re-review it ;D

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Thanks

 

[Cweener]

Yes, this time I'm using the unprotected maps review.
Only 2 other reviews left >

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Okay >

 

[light bolt30]

Fix the typo in your description; msot is spelt most, it's found in the Blackrock Clan description.

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Oops, thanks. Fixed

 

[Cweener]

About my re-review,
I'm going to review my last map now, so I should have your up in a few hours.
Thought I'd let yo know, since I've been very busy, as of late.

 

[jupi9999]

hey i found a few bugs when i destroyed all the orcs bases then i went on the red one and destroyed it also and halak the lifibringer apperd and the i killed the hero another halak the lifebringer apperd so i had 2 arch-paladin
and the other bug is well idk if it is a bug but when the heros throw the gold potion the great hall gives you more gold than the stronghold
great hall 770
stonghold 630
but a great map you have there 5/5 because of those 2 bugs i cant give 4/5

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Okay, take your time Also, I heard you are in a bad mood?

@jupi9999, Well, it's not a bug, the Great Hall is more expensive than a Stronghold (Great Hall: 385, Stronghold, 315). But I will fix that other bug with the 2 Halahks.

 

[jupi9999]

oooo k thanks i didnt know if it was a bug or not

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

It's okay, thanks for the reporting the other bug though, and playing

 

[Cweener]

How does everybody know that already >.>
grrr...
Anyways, I WILL review it today!
as soon as I find the time.

 

[jupi9999]

yw love it especialy that we can have the bandits and its such good ground for making bases i made a base by every single gold mine and i like that there is no upkeep and food is 300

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Okay then o_o

And yeah, I removed upkeep cause it was a bit annoying to have 40% gold while the Peasants took 10, so I removed it

 

[Cweener]

Review Time #29 {Re-Revieing #25} {Final Score:187/200}

Other review removed!

Review # 29

Rating System (in weener points:)

1-10 Originality
1-10 Replayability (discounted for most cinematics*)
1-10 Triggering (discounted for protected maps*)
1-10 Terraining
1-10 Object Managing (custom items and destructibles etc...)
1-10 Spells (if applies**)
1-10 Description (On THW and In-game (Loading Screen and information))
1-15 Engaging a.k.a. fun to play
1-15 Misc (size, system implementation, laginess etc...)
-100 or +100 for abiding by THW rules.
_{* = when one is discounted then other sections maximums are raised, and those sections are judged harder (if your map applies then it will show you what i raised later)
** = some maps dont really need spells so this section is discounted and given an automatic 10.}

Rating System Scores

Less than 100 = FF- (Reported, You clearly didnt abide by all of the posting rules, and i have reported you for (not) doing so.)
100-150 Points = F- (Rancid and Needs major work. Vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
151-160 Points = F (Bad and Needs work. vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
161-170 Points = D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)
171-180 Points = C (Okay but Needs updates. has potential. vote for rejection* and no +rep.)
181-190 Points = B (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval and +rep)
191-199 Points = A (Great and probably has reached full potential**. good job. vote for approval and +rep.)
200 Points = A+ (Amazing, you did everything right and went all out, approval and +rep)
_{* = depending on the map really, and what categories it scored low in
** = not always but most cases.}

The Rescue of Halahk v4.8a

1-10 Originality *10* Original aspects, and execution. Good job.
1-10 Replayability *9* I really like single player games, so maybe this is just me. There were also no bugs to affect this.
1-10 Terraining *8* You've improved SO much. Good job. However I have a couple thing I will point out later(In extra tab) as to not make this part too long.
1-10 Triggering *5* You made your trigger SO much more efficient by cutting out all of the unnecessary ones. They still leaked horrendously however, and so you had efficiency and leaks making it a even 5.
1-10 Object Managing *10* Default blizzard tooltips throughout, so this is auto-10.
1-10 Spells *8* Okay, you added some. Great. Although this won't be an auto-10 because the are custom now, and they aren't very original, so I'm going to say an 8. (BTW: they leak the worst of all, but that's triggering)
1-10 Description *10* Great.
1-15 Engaging *14*
1-15 Misc *13* Yo had leaks, but other than that, everything was fine.
-100 or 100 Rules *100*
0-200 All-in-all *187* B (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval and +rep(none was given, because a re-review))

Author's Note,
Very good, I still love this map, after playing through several times.
Good job.

Bugs I found

Bugs:
Nada.

Recommendations

Recommendations:
Leak tuts.
Add height variation.
Keep being awesome.

Likes&Dislikes

[Liked]
I liked simply everything in-game wise other than the height.


[Didn't like]
Those damn leaks. :/
Height is flat throughout 70%+ of the map

If any map I've reviewed has been updated, feel free the ask me to re-review it. or if I haven't reviewed YOUR map, feel free to ask me.

Now, on to some terraining pointers.

Notice that you have Dark Grass on top of dirt.
I think I really shouldn't have to say more about that. Grass to dirt, is usually accepted. Although dark grass to dirt is unheard of.


Now go into some water(pond, lake, stream, etc...) even if it is shallow.
Tell me what is at the bottom, if you find grass, then take a pic or video, because I'd like to see that.
Point being, that Grass simply cannot grow from out of water. You should make the under water part a mixture of the two different dirt(s) and then near(not in) the water make it grassy dirt/grass mix.
Maybe add some cattails around the entire lake, and growing from the water(shallow only) too. And river rushes around the murloc huts would be good looking too.

Now, none of this is really "necessary", but it will make your terrain so much more realistic, which is really what terraining is about in most cases.
As soon as I see the changes made, I'll change the value to a "10" and you'll have an "A" map.

Great job thus far.

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Hmm...thanks for pointing out the terrain stuff ^^ Added some height now, so it won't be that flat, and a bit to the forest parts. I'm gonna go to some leak tuts so I'll fix some more leaks And me? Awesome? Nah, I don't think so, you are. Thanks anyway

 

[uKr.TroiA]

Improve your terrain : )

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Trying to, but I'm bad at terraining ^^

 

[EloTheMan]

Overall its a pretty nice map, reminds me of AoE II, it just needs a little more work.

I think you need more unit upgrades (attack and armor ones) when I finally took over the first base I had already upgraded my Knights completely. Also, adding some Item shops would be nice, maybe the better item shops can be found behind the bases as you progress.

Well the terrain is improvable but the Walls the Orc bases have should be replaced with something more Orcish, like these ones:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/wall-49720/?prev=c%3D15%26t%3D4%26r%3D20%26d%3Dlist%26page%3D14
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/orcishwall-148843/?prev=c%3D15%26t%3D4%26r%3D20%26d%3Dlist%26page%3D3
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/woodwall0-139353/?prev=c%3D15%26t%3D4%26r%3D20%26d%3Dlist%26page%3D6

During fights you wont see so much of the ground but the walls are still very visible, if you need help with the walls or other terrain stuff I can give you some help.

 

[KingLich]

About 7.9

I started playing the latest version (v7.9) and found 2 bugs:

- A typo in the loading screen: '' Bring Halahk to the energy field (your starting POTITION).
It's spelt '' position ''.

- After you take out the demons and capture the bandit base, a rain of fire is casted, with no enemy around (like if some invisible doom guard is doing it) xD.

Its my first post; forgot to say its an excellent map, I love single-player maps like this. Keep up the good work

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

@EloTheMan Thanks for the wall models! And well, I need some help with terrain, any suggestions/ideas/links?

@KingLich

fixin' it xd @ typo. Also, wait, after you take out all red units a rain of fire is casted on your base? will try to fix that xD and ty for playing ^^ (and for the feedback )

 

[KingLich]

Fully played the game, and found:
- The Rain of Fire deals huge damage and its casted randomly, most of the times at your starting gold mine, killing your peasants in seconds.
- You can spawn as many demons as you want (at your starting base) every time you get inside trigger region, because you didnt make it to stop the trigger after that.
- After you kill Magtheridon, nothing happens T_T ! (And I killed him very easily with flying units. Maybe you should get him ranged attack also, to make it more challenging)

Other than that, I repeat, loved this map . ! <3

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Ok, I think I fixed the Rain of Fire thing (had global casting range, so Magtheridon just randomly cast it from his hill xD) Removed the demons (Archimondes) from the game, and Magtheridon can now attack air units xD Also nerfed his abilities, except Cleaving Attack xd.

Thank you again! Tho, I'm thinking of making demons spawn after you free Halahk, so you don't have to escort him through nothing (if you destroyed all bases) xd What do you think? oo should demons spawn in destroyed bases?

 

[KingLich]

Ok it should be fine now, thanks.

About demon spawning after you free Halakh; yeah that was seriously what I expected xD!

Idk where are you going to spawn them, but definately you have to make a warning or something saying that they're going to try to stop you.

Cheers!

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Alright, thanks for the suggestion! xd

 

[deepstrasz]

Captain takes no food.
The potion of Transmute can be used on any enemy building indefinitely (imagine three heroes with that).
Troops can walk through walls but the yellow AI has a tower that cannot be reached through its walls.
There are a lot of miswritten words like the Greentooth Clan instead of the Blacktooth Grin Clan or Balnazzar instead of Magtheridon.
Trees and the Gold Mines offer almost infinite resources.
The AI barely attacks. Only the yellow one has something to say.
Creeps are not attacked by the Orcs and some of them have their camp very near the Orcs.