The Four Horsemen of Apocalypse

[Moderator]

20:48, 10th Feb 2010
ap0calypse: Approved

 

[DarkIron Dwarf]

Okay this really needs some changes and such though I like the terrian and its a fun idea. The priests/acolyte need to be placed as heroes, the map needs creeps to make it more interesting, maybe some AI for single player, and items would be nice.

 

[Yan]

thx for playing and saying what you think about this map.

It's normal the priests/acolytes aren't heroes, it's too basic to control heroes so I would change that. I will placed them to heroes anyway and see if it's better.

At the beginning, I would placed creeps but without heroes I thought it's useless. It's the same for items.

The idea was to fight against other people and have fun with them, I think a single player mode eradicate the fun.

 

[un_known]

If you don't want it easy to control them or find them turn off the ability for them to have a portrait in the top left corner and turn off the minimap sight of the heroes.

 

[The_Grapist]

Not bad.Overall Very good!

 

[Yan]

If you don't want it easy to control them or find them turn off the ability for them to have a portrait in the top left corner and turn off the minimap sight of the heroes.

thx for the advice , I will do that.

Not bad.Overall Very good!

Thx, the update is available.

 

[Yan]

New version uploaded, if you have suggestions or find bugs please report them here and I will test or correct them.

 

[VampireofBlood]

Hmm. It seems like you are a beginner so i wont judge it to hard, but i would creat better screenshots, cause i cant see anything explaining on them ^^

 

[Yan]

ok np, but the worldeditor screenshots are just here to see the terrain.

 

[VampireofBlood]

this i cal a nice description , i hope you continue it^^

 

[Yan]

thx, yeah I will continue it, just to do some screenshots.

 

[GameShark22]

Looks awesome I will download

 

[Yan]

Thx, I hope you won"t upload before this message because i had forgotten to remove players units and some stuff but now it's good.

 

[VampireofBlood]

well this seems nive , but the Terrain is still not that good.
May i help you with it?


EDIT:
Right now i have 20% of the Terrain redone.
But you also need to change alot of the creep points oO, its a bit boring after the first kills.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Wait a minute, is this based on the Darksiders(video game) story?

 

[MultiGod]

From what I saw in the description, You don't seem to have any triggered ability.
You should put some. Maybe 2 for each hero.

 

[FlavoredPickle]

I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
-Conquest

When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come!" Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a huge sword.
-War

When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"
-Famine

When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
-Death

 

[Yan]

Wait a minute, is this based on the Darksiders(video game) story?

Not really, I didn't know the story of Darksiders when i started the map

From what I saw in the description, You don't seem to have any triggered ability.
You should put some. Maybe 2 for each hero.

there is some triggered abilities except for Priest, Acolyte and Angel

I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
-Conquest

When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come!" Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a huge sword.
-War

When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"
-Famine

When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
-Death

I had the idea to do appear one horseman per lever desactivated but i didn't do it maybe for the next version.

thx for your comments

 

[R.e.A.p.E.r-XxX]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL u ripped out the title of ur map from the movie *the for horsemen of apocaplypse* ul get demanded xD anyway i liked the angel model so il try the map keep it up

 

[Azndragon]

You spelled percentage as pourcentage

 

[ap0calypse]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL u ripped out the title of ur map from the movie *the for horsemen of apocaplypse* ul get demanded xD anyway i liked the angel model so il try the map keep it up

O, yeah, because that movie invented the four horsemen of the apocalypse! /sarcasm
Your post is absolutely ridiculous, sorry to say it.

You spelled percentage as pourcentage

percentage comes from the French "pour cent" (out of hundred or per hundred), so 1 percent is 1 out of hundred (1/100), so I wouldn't really mind if someone calls it pourcentage, but I guess it's a mistake, yes ^^

Anyway, from all previous comments + description: approved (though I would recommend hidden-tags for the Catholic Church as well).

 

[ACdestinydream]

I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
-Conquest

When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come!" Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a huge sword.
-War

When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"
-Famine

When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
-Death

famous quotes from the bible, it is in genesis (i think)

this game is quite boring. go around converting each other/ kill each other...

 

[Yan]

I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
-Conquest

When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come!" Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a huge sword.
-War

When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"
-Famine

When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
-Death

famous quotes from the bible, it is in genesis (i think)

Can you clarify ? plz because in two times someone quoted this i don't know what to think about it : If it just a comment or if i must to do something with.

 

[-Kobas-]

Very good description but I have only 1 small comment about it,

Can you put that heroes into 2 or more hidden tags?

 

[ag00]

Hide description plz. And big standart wc3 icons not so ROCKZZ..

 

[ap0calypse]

big standart wc3 icons not so ROCKZZ..

I beg to differ... warcraft 3 icons are usually a lot more epic than custom ones.
Blizzard is a gaming company, they really know how to create good icons.

 

[Nerzhuul]

does need some changes but i think its a fun concept

 

[Yan]

does need some changes

ok, can you explain what modifications i need to do?
because i can change a lot of things and take the risk to destroy some (a lot of) positive things.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Your spell descriptions lack out of information and has severe grammatical errors. If you want, I can re-write them, just tell me if you want it. This is not only for spell descriptions.

 

[Yan]

Your spell descriptions lack out of information and has severe grammatical errors. If you want, I can re-write them, just tell me if you want it. This is not only for spell descriptions.

No problem, if you have time and want to do it. It will be better than my english even if i use this sometimes.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Okay. Where to post descriptions?

 

[Yan]

Okay. Where to post descriptions?

by PM, In a word file which you send by e-mail or here

 

[Psycho14]

are you kidding me?
This map is awful... In the beginning it's so boring it's annoying... everyone leaves it because it's so horrible... the camera, the spells (a hero version of a priest? oh great, i can totally kill red-camp creeps easily!)... i wanted to get to the paladins vs horsemen, rly i did... but i couldn't, it was just so stupid... we, priests, helped acolytes destroy levers... and then portal, but nothing was happening!
change the map genre... this is anything but hero defense/survival

 

[Yan]

are you kidding me?
This map is awful... In the beginning it's so boring it's annoying... everyone leaves it because it's so horrible... the camera, the spells (a hero version of a priest? oh great, i can totally kill red-camp creeps easily!)... i wanted to get to the paladins vs horsemen, rly i did... but i couldn't, it was just so stupid... we, priests, helped acolytes destroy levers... and then portal, but nothing was happening!
change the map genre... this is anything but hero defense/survival

Next update features :
"Paladins vs Horsemen" 's issue is solved
When you destroy the portal the ending cinematic run
(i tested myself (alone))
thx to report them
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For the levers you choose to destroy them so it's not really a problem

Camera : Can you explain why you doesn't like the camera? What should i do to improve it?

I explain my choice of the map genre :

Defense :

• Priest must defend levers
• After Acolytes must defend the portal

Survival :

• When levers are desactivated heroes who die doesn't revive

Offense :

• Acolytes must destroy levers
• Priest must destroy the portal

 

[MOMBI]

Very cool game mayn. The idea is great, terrain is good and a nice gameplay.

But it could be a even better if u add AI so people could play this where and when thay want too.

 

[SasuhKun]

To all that still have doubts somehow, this game ins't based on video game, movie, whatever. It is based on Bible itself, on the Apocalypse/Genesis book. Many video games and movies are also based on it, but not as many of you though. Uncultured bastards.

(I remember only 4 horsemen, not five. That's propably why you traded between pestilence and conquest. Also, to you WoW lovers, if you still hadn't figure it out, Naxxramas have the same pack of horsemen: Sir Zeliek, the holy death knight would be conquest, since his horse is completely white. There is no red horse, but I would guess Lady Blameux. Famine/Plague would be Thane, and Death itself would be Baron Rivendare.)

Also, I have a feeling that everyone's abilities are incredibly OPs. But I'll have to test it to figure it out. Downloading.

Edit: Also, a suggestion (still haven't downloaded it). Maybe put the soundtrack a little part of the music (also as a tribute to wow, perhaps) Goodnight Saigon.

Edit 2: Perhaps Goodnight Saigon isn't so appropriate. Well, just listen to it.

How do I get Paladins/Four Horsemen? Also, what the hell are rally points and summoning pedestals for!? And remove the creeps from the levers so that we can protect them ourselfs. Also, this is supposed to be somewhat realistic, so use only undead and human creeps. And I know almost every paladin have holy light and divine shield, but you'd better variate. Every hero with 2 same abilities is boring. And give more info to the players. And maybe you should make it a little AoS. Well, not exactly. Just give a base to both and some units patrolling or something. I'm going to play again and see what else I can tell you.

Edit: Also, make each Priest/Acolyte , and also Demons/Angels with different abilities, if possible. Maybe make each knight/paladin a respective color, so that the abilities are linked to each other.

Edit: And what the hell is that confession thing? I kept winning intelligence over time and suddenly it vanished... o.o

Edit: THIS is the final version!? D: But, I don't, even.. also, there's a bug with summoning book of the paladins. Apparently, using it twice bugs everything about them.

Edit: Paladins and Knights, in my opinion, shouldn't be considered as secrets, so make a easier way to have them. Also, make one more slot to be Angel/Demon (I also don't know how the hell can one turn into these. And ALSO, a paladin with sheep skills? Really?)

You can't make this the final version... it can still be improved so much..

 

[Yan]

Wow, A huge comment like i love^^

You can't make this the final version... it can still be improved so much..

Without detailled feedback you can really improve a map. You believe everything is ok so i called a final version.
It was a mistake apparently I will keep working on it

How do I get Paladins/Four Horsemen? Also, what the hell are rally points and summoning pedestals for!? And remove the creeps from the levers so that we can protect them ourselfs. Also, this is supposed to be somewhat realistic, so use only undead and human creeps. And I know almost every paladin have holy light and divine shield, but you'd better variate. Every hero with 2 same abilities is boring. And give more info to the players. And maybe you should make it a little AoS. Well, not exactly. Just give a base to both and some units patrolling or something. I'm going to play again and see what else I can tell you.

You mean like cities in WoW without NPCs, could be interresting
Paladins have two same abilities to allow them to survive
When a team own every rally points a wave of fighters attack the other team
Summoning pedestals can be useful at the beginning to survive when you are a priest
I will see what i can do for the creeps from the levers

if possible. Maybe make each knight/paladin a respective color, so that the abilities are linked to each other.

I don't really understand what you mean

Edit: THIS is the final version!? D: But, I don't, even.. also, there's a bug with summoning book of the paladins. Apparently, using it twice bugs everything about them.

Paladins don't appear or the book bug?

Edit: And what the hell is that confession thing? I kept winning intelligence over time and suddenly it vanished... o.o

The buff have been dispell? If yes everything is right.

Edit: Also, a suggestion (still haven't downloaded it). Maybe put the soundtrack a little part of the music (also as a tribute to wow, perhaps) Goodnight Saigon.

Edit 2: Perhaps Goodnight Saigon isn't so appropriate. Well, just listen to it.

It's great to suggest to put some music but What the music will add to the map? (It's not i don't put a music just i want to know why suggest it?)

Edit: Paladins and Knights, in my opinion, shouldn't be considered as secrets, so make a easier way to have them. Also, make one more slot to be Angel/Demon (I also don't know how the hell can one turn into these. And ALSO, a paladin with sheep skills? Really?)

Knights appear automatically 2 min after the portal is fixed (quite easy to have them)
Summoning books appear when the portal is fixed just need to know which book and which spell use to have Paladins (more difficult to have them but it's an option)
Anyway i will think about if i make a way to have Knights ans Paladins
the Paladin with sheep skills, it's to make the game funnier (even if it's silly)

I'm going to play again and see what else I can tell you.

Thx for playing the game, thx for posting, I waiting for your bug report/suggestions. + REP

 

[SasuhKun]

Yeah, about the bases, there would be 3 options. Make a base without nothing on it, like a safe point only (like Ninja vs Samurai). Make a base with units that after the portal is fixed would be roaming around and fighting each other (like a litte AoS... the creeps would be decimated after the portal is fixed. The base would be 1st somewhere else, and after the portal is fixed would be moved there. The same to the Paladin's base (First would be in the corner where I saw most of them beginning... the southwest. And the acolytes would begin in the northeast instead... and choose either to try to take those two levers together, but with stronger creeps, or try to rush the other two levers. Then, if the portal is fixed (which is between the 2 bases from a equal distance) the bases go there... or either, the bases still where they are, but the wave units would come from the portal (and perhaps from a portal God made himself, but of course with weaker units... well, I don't know, it depends. And the rally points would be like a reinforcement for them.)

Actually, would be better to replace all creeps with undead/human, and preferrably units allied to the priests. And I though that they were strange because there were no info about them... I do not remember if there are a "tips" thing, but if there are, write about Confession, rally points, etc. Indepedent if there are or not, you should add some info, like -help which listens a list of commands to customize the game (like camera) to more info about determined things (like those which I said) Also, My teammates couldn't get the confession bonus, only I could, even after my bonus had been dispelled. Each color (like red blue teal and purple make the priests team) would be related to ONE paladin. And so its priests would have related skills. (For example, one of the priests would have sheepy skills o.o)

One summoned the paladins, and then someone resummoned them. Then the little window that allows you to choose your paladin bugged, since you cannot choose a paladin that has been chosen before. But since technically all paladins were chosen, everytime you pressed any button of the window it would always say "This paladin have already been choosen." And everytime they would say that the window just repopped...

Well, depends on the music. Specifically Goognight Saigon would add a greater climate to the union of both factions... I think. That's what I feel at least whenever I hear it. I never found the book myself :O Also, when I fixed the portal, the game ended for me maybe it is related to the fact that everyone had already left D: You need to put a twist to attract players... since you only get the 4 horsemen on the very end.

Thank you for listening to me and great idea for the game, +REP

Also, 4/5. I'll give 5/5 when I think you improved it more

 

[Yan]

Yeah, about the bases, there would be 3 options. Make a base without nothing on it, like a safe point only (like Ninja vs Samurai). Make a base with units that after the portal is fixed would be roaming around and fighting each other (like a litte AoS... the creeps would be decimated after the portal is fixed. The base would be 1st somewhere else, and after the portal is fixed would be moved there. The same to the Paladin's base (First would be in the corner where I saw most of them beginning... the southwest. And the acolytes would begin in the northeast instead... and choose either to try to take those two levers together, but with stronger creeps, or try to rush the other two levers. Then, if the portal is fixed (which is between the 2 bases from a equal distance) the bases go there... or either, the bases still where they are, but the wave units would come from the portal (and perhaps from a portal God made himself, but of course with weaker units... well, I don't know, it depends. And the rally points would be like a reinforcement for them.)

About bases idea i will make it but only for Acolytes (when the portal is fixed). In this way Priests must use rally points to attack the portal and Acolytes' base will only have guards. Because if each team have a base, each team use the same gameplay type.

Actually, would be better to replace all creeps with undead/human, and preferrably units allied to the priests. And I though that they were strange because there were no info about them... I do not remember if there are a "tips" thing, but if there are, write about Confession, rally points, etc. Indepedent if there are or not, you should add some info, like -help which listens a list of commands to customize the game (like camera) to more info about determined things (like those which I said) Also, My teammates couldn't get the confession bonus, only I could, even after my bonus had been dispelled. Each color (like red blue teal and purple make the priests team) would be related to ONE paladin. And so its priests would have related skills. (For example, one of the priests would have sheepy skills o.o)

Replace creeps : it's just a detail maybe later but i will add a allied player controlled by the computer to protect levers
There is no "tips" thing, i will add an help command
I think the "one priest related to one paladin" idea is not really good because that remove the choice of your hero, you can choose your horsemen it must be the same for Paladins

One summoned the paladins, and then someone resummoned them. Then the little window that allows you to choose your paladin bugged, since you cannot choose a paladin that has been chosen before. But since technically all paladins were chosen, everytime you pressed any button of the window it would always say "This paladin have already been choosen." And everytime they would say that the window just repopped...

It's weird normally noboby can have the same book as the other one.

Well, depends on the music. Specifically Goognight Saigon would add a greater climate to the union of both factions... I think. That's what I feel at least whenever I hear it. I never found the book myself :O Also, when I fixed the portal, the game ended for me maybe it is related to the fact that everyone had already left D: You need to put a twist to attract players... since you only get the 4 horsemen on the very end.

It's because everyone left i think, Fix the portal turn on a series of action
it's the end only if there isn't enemies heroes alive after that.
About the twist, maybe i will put an event for each levers is desactivated (i don't know what yet)

Thank you for listening to me and great idea for the game, +REP

Also, 4/5. I'll give 5/5 when I think you improved it more

Np, it's a obligation to listen players' suggestions, just need to recognize detractors and supporters

 

[SasuhKun]

Again, thank you. I am patiently awaiting for the next updates

Edit: I will test the new version.

 

[ShiroiSenji]

More imports required :7

 

[VampireofBlood]

More imports required :7

wouldn't say so.
Imports can imbalance the gamefeeling very hard, if they dont fit good together.
but for the terrain they might help alot.

 

[Orcnet]

I like your idea in making this map, but how come the Horsemen are classified satanic? in the bible, their actually the crusaders of god's wrath, just wanna share, good map, I like things that has supernatural elements in the game, 10/10!

 

[Yan]

I like your idea in making this map, but how come the Horsemen are classified satanic? in the bible, their actually the crusaders of god's wrath, just wanna share, good map, I like things that has supernatural elements in the game, 10/10!

thx, about the satanic classification the Four Horsemen must be corrupted or used by the Satan.

 

[XPQJ]

caused a fatal error for me and my friend ._.

 

[Yan]

caused a fatal error for me and my friend ._.

Can you explain what did you do before the crash? (what event make it crash...)

 

[XPQJ]

the game started, it went through a cinematic with a priest and gave me a paly then i clicked him and it crashed. It was only about 30 seconds into the game. Haven't tried it again, maybe it was an isolated incidence.

 

[Yan]

the game started, it went through a cinematic with a priest and gave me a paly then i clicked him and it crashed. It was only about 30 seconds into the game. Haven't tried it again, maybe it was an isolated incidence.

I haven't see this bug (maybe because i test alone) but i think it's because 2 triggers works at the same time (you and your friend hasn't choose the same game mode) so i just add conditions on them.

Map updated : Game mode dialog should works.

 

[commoe]

ew please fix the thousand spelling errors in your description