Texturing Contest #16 - Theme DIscussion

[HappyCockroach]

This theme is ridiculous.

 

[FrIkY]

Okay, I'll give you few reasons why this contest's theme is a complete failure:
1) You must create an already existing X-mas (Christmas is something else) character or a X-mas toy. There's no creativity and originallity in that... I don't know, judges are supposed to judge it but I don't know how are they gonna judge it...
2) What are X-mas toys? Nuttcracker, teddy bear, girl's dolly, train, wooden horse thingy... you mean like that? So what else could it be? Or, can someone make an action figure of Batman, will that be a X-mas toy?
3) Christmas is a religious holiday for Christians, it's the day when Jesus was born. However, X-mas is all this crap with santas, reindeers, elf helpers, presents, 'X-mas' tree and other... so... do contestants have to be original and make Christmas characters and toys or X-mas characters and toys?
4) What characters? Here is what I think:
Christmas characters: Jesus, virgin Mary, God, Angels, Three Kings... maybe someone else, also.
X-mas characters: Santa Claus, Santa Claus' wife, reindeers, elf helpers and maybe Krampus... so who else? Don't tell me it's the snowman, because as far as I know, people can make snowmen without knowing what's X-mas or Christmas.
5) Theme is restricting... let's say there's total of 20 X-mas characters and toys, so it would be 20 contestants to make all that 20. What after that, they must invent some new characters or toys, damn it. Which brings us back to originality again, they must be original with something, like GnoobSauce is trying to be, but you keep saying that it won't be counted unless it's something that was not created by him... I mean, someone/something that he didn't invent.

My suggestion is... allow people to be creative and original or start the contest all over again with a new theme (maybe Nature or Circus/Cartoon/Toys, since they had most votes in the poll, I think). If you can provide me with like... total of 50 X-mas characters or toys, then you can leave everything as it is, but then remove 'Originality and creativity' from what's gonna be judged.

EDIT: Alse, here's an awesome example of how people should create their skins. It's a snowman, in green colored armor and cloak, riding a reindeer equiped with red colored gear. To me, that's original, I've never seen a reindeer being riden by a snowman. But... for this contest, it's not acceptable... snowman riding a reindeer isn't a X-mas character, no one ever invented it, so... too bad.

 

[communist_orc]

strong Language but well argued. I kinda agree

 

[Dentothor]

i said i would allow any kind of toy for this competition. that gives almost endless possibilities. since it intersects with holidays and such, since it is holiday season, i included christmas stuff. So thinking about it, it is not all that complicated.
And i don't know why everyone is saying i said christmas toy. ANY KIND OF TOY WILL BE ALLOWED

and to FrIkY the snowman on a reindeer would be goo for this contest. it would be acceptable. however something random dressed in x mas clothing isnt really creative.

 

[Traxamillion]

So its a Toy Theme with a side of Christmas....fail

these themes get worse and worse

 

[GnoobSauce]

agreed >.>
next theme will be
The skin with the least creativity possible. Reskin tauren chieftain into tauren chieftain

 

[FrIkY]

i said i would allow any kind of toy for this competition. that gives almost endless possibilities. since it intersects with holidays and such, since it is holiday season, i included christmas stuff. So thinking about it, it is not all that complicated.
And i don't know why everyone is saying i said christmas toy. ANY KIND OF TOY WILL BE ALLOWED

Then why don't you just rename it to "Toys", instead of "Toys and Christmas characters"? You confused me... And, I'm sure that in the description it said "...transform it into a Christmas Toy or Christmas Character!..." maybe you edited it, or maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. Also, you said that you are gonna make Buzz Lightyear, so... will that be original? So, is "Batman" or invented (example) "Gigaman Z" action figure skin going to be equally original?

 

[GnoobSauce]

what if i put a price tag on my skin and call it a toy?
what makes something a toy rather than just the character?

 

[Traxamillion]

It's impossible to be original with this theme.

 

[Just_Spectating]

batman toy is mine!

called it!

 

[GnoobSauce]

Ancient of Winterveil Action Figure:

will add christmas details to him and ornament balls to his beard :]
ribbon on his arm is team color btw

 

[Just_Spectating]

lol, i like the $5 tag

 

[GnoobSauce]

haha thanks

 

[FrIkY]

GnoobSauce, maybe you should use the leaf area for the price tag. It looks good so far, but you need to contrast and shade it more.

EDIT: Also, try to wrap it on both Furion and Druid of the Talon, see which one looks better (and show us some wrap pictures).

 

[Just_Spectating]

i think the theme could be,

dress up the warcraft characters into the 'X-mas' spirit

like FrIkY's example.

 

[FrIkY]

i think the theme could be,

dress up the warcraft characters into the 'X-mas' spirit

like FrIkY's example.

Yeah, "Christmas character" and "'X-mas' spirit" is not the same. On "'X-mas' spirit" you can actually judge creativity and originality.

 

[GnoobSauce]

that's what i had planned but the leaf wraps in it's shape, it's not alpha'd so it would be a diamond price tag. i turned that into christmas lights
ill put a wrap pic up later

 

[Stanakin]

You can always be original and you can always judge creativity and originality. If you can't think of something original or creative within this theme, that has more to do with your creative capacity than with the contest theme itself.

Where were you people saying the theme's bad in the contest submission thread? Toys got a lot of support, so it got hosted. Dentothor added christmas so there was a bit more choice. :/

 

[FrIkY]

You didn't get it, Stanakin. GnoobSauce tried to make a skin that has X-mas spirit in it, but Dentothor said it won't be counted because it's not an already existing character. So, he is not allowed to invent anything, he has to use someone's original idea... also, I thought that the theme was "Christmas toys and characters", so I wasn't sure who are all those characters and what are Christmas toys. Oh and, true, toys got a lot of support, but not X-mas characters. This is anyway just a twisted version of my idea, my idea was Circus/Cartoon/Toys (examples).

 

[Stanakin]

Ah.

I see no reason for Gnoobsauce's entry not to count, either. If we're going x-mas/christmas /whatever we might as well do anything x-massy.

Now I see that again I don't really get why the contest theme isn't just exactly the same as the theme that was voted for. (circus,cartoons,toys)

 

[Pyritie]

Okay, I'll give you few reasons why this contest's theme is a complete failure:
1) You must create an already existing X-mas (Christmas is something else) character or a X-mas toy. There's no creativity and originallity in that... I don't know, judges are supposed to judge it but I don't know how are they gonna judge it...
2) What are X-mas toys? Nuttcracker, teddy bear, girl's dolly, train, wooden horse thingy... you mean like that? So what else could it be? Or, can someone make an action figure of Batman, will that be a X-mas toy?
3) Christmas is a religious holiday for Christians, it's the day when Jesus was born. However, X-mas is all this crap with santas, reindeers, elf helpers, presents, 'X-mas' tree and other... so... do contestants have to be original and make Christmas characters and toys or X-mas characters and toys?
4) What characters? Here is what I think:
Christmas characters: Jesus, virgin Mary, God, Angels, Three Kings... maybe someone else, also.
X-mas characters: Santa Claus, Santa Claus' wife, reindeers, elf helpers and maybe Krampus... so who else? Don't tell me it's the snowman, because as far as I know, people can make snowmen without knowing what's X-mas or Christmas.
5) Theme is restricting... let's say there's total of 20 X-mas characters and toys, so it would be 20 contestants to make all that 20. What after that, they must invent some new characters or toys, damn it. Which brings us back to originality again, they must be original with something, like GnoobSauce is trying to be, but you keep saying that it won't be counted unless it's something that was not created by him... I mean, someone/something that he didn't invent.

My suggestion is... allow people to be creative and original or start the contest all over again with a new theme (maybe Nature or Circus/Cartoon/Toys, since they had most votes in the poll, I think). If you can provide me with like... total of 50 X-mas characters or toys, then you can leave everything as it is, but then remove 'Originality and creativity' from what's gonna be judged.

EDIT: Alse, here's an awesome example of how people should create their skins. It's a snowman, in green colored armor and cloak, riding a reindeer equiped with red colored gear. To me, that's original, I've never seen a reindeer being riden by a snowman. But... for this contest, it's not acceptable... snowman riding a reindeer isn't a X-mas character, no one ever invented it, so... too bad.

Fucking seconded.


Dentothor, you need to fix this theme. If you don't then I will do it for you whether you like it or not

 

[HappyCockroach]

Christmas is what ruins this theme. If it was just about toys, we could have marionettes / puppets / toy soldiers / toy block buildings...

 

[Dentothor]

fine. i thought it would be a nice idea to have holidays in it (cuz of the spirit). but its messed it up. ill edit it now. im sorry for any confusion. the theme will be just toys. ANY kind of toy plaything or whatever.

Anyways. UPDATED.

 

[GnoobSauce]

sweet i guess i'll enter. just gotta think of a new thing.
doubt anyone wanted to see my old texture finished anyways.

 

[RED BARON]

If I get a good idea - I'll join. But only if..

 

[darkdeathknight]

Great. I was doing a Christmas thing and now it's changed to toys only? Screw this contest

 

[RED BARON]

Great. I was doing a Christmas thing and now it's changed to toys only? Screw this contest

Actually it was changed to any kind of toy, from Christmas toy's. So if you made a Christmas toy it still counts..

 

[darkdeathknight]

I did a Christmas Char

 

[RED BARON]

I did a Christmas Char

Call it a doll and problem is solved.

 

[darkdeathknight]

I wonder if anyone would like a old man doll... Yeah. I should just call it a doll. This contest is too crazy anyway

 

[RED BARON]

I wonder if anyone would like a old man doll... Yeah. I should just call it a doll. This contest is too crazy anyway

See problem solved Now just give it one doll death animation texture

 

[HappyCockroach]

See problem solved Now just give it one doll death animation

Erm...isn't this a texturing contest?

 

[RED BARON]

Erm...isn't this a texturing contest?

Ooops - I switched threads in the head.. Then give it a texture that makes it look like a doll when it dies

 

[Just_Spectating]

I'll be the first to W.I.P.


its the King of Candy

 

[GnoobSauce]

pretty good but those colors are obnoxiously saturated hah. try a more a mellow pink for the (bubblegum?)

 

[RED BARON]

I'll be the first to W.I.P.
its the King of Candy

I like the below the belt, part.. But not the face + arm color.. as said below it doesn't look like candy.

 

[Just_Spectating]

pretty good but those colors are obnoxiously saturated hah. try a more a mellow pink for the (bubblegum?)

i dont know what you mean by that but i'll try

also, i havent started on the face.

 

[RED BARON]

I don't know what you mean by that but I'll try.

Btw: Where is the toy part of it?

 

[Just_Spectating]

isn't it a x-mas theme?

 

[GnoobSauce]

i dont know what you mean by that but i'll try

also, i havent started on the face.

Use a less saturated color pink i.e. more dull, less vibrant, etc..
many saturated colors in a close area give a very unappealing effect, but given the nature of the contents of the skin (candy), i belive that just reducing the saturation of the pink will kind of offset the saturation of the other objects in the vicinity.

 

[Just_Spectating]

UPDATE:
hes got a face
lowered the saturation





i dont want him to turn into a nightelf :/

 

[GnoobSauce]

hmmm, looks good to me :]
imo, i'd make him a bit more pink, but keep the same saturation (just play with the hue)
I call the goblin alchemist model btw.
gonna make a gnome riding a teddybear
or if that doesn't work it'll be like a large ragdoll

 

[Dentothor]

great stuff so far guys.

 

[Just_Spectating]

i've got the only 'stuff' so far

 

[darkdeathknight]

The funny thing is that at the start everyone said that you can't just make a warcraft unit wearing christmas clothes but now you can pretty much do anything and say that it's a doll or something

 

[Traxamillion]

i've got the only 'stuff' so far

and im done.
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Ancient of Winterveil Action Figure:

will add christmas details to him and ornament balls to his beard :]
ribbon on his arm is team color btw

ehrm.

 

[Just_Spectating]

but hes starting over

This post will be my final
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/kingofcandy-blp-154645/

so i can keep updating it till the contest is over

 

[Dionesiist]

So Krampus doesn't count.. Hmm.

 

[Just_Spectating]

So Krampus doesn't count.. Hmm.

it says on the first page that you're doing krampus

 

[Dionesiist]

Yes, but he was a Christmas character. Back to the drawing board.