Terrorkar Forest

[Moderator]

17:55, 14th Jun 2014
Orcnet: Gameplay is decently made and no much trouble for players to tackle in creeps and harvesting areas, but I think the idea of only Goblin Merchants to be available for the map seems a bit too much, it would be nice if there would be Laboratories or Mercenary camps that store Draenei units as based on the map description. Also atleast 1 creep guarding the Goblin Merchant should drop a sentry ward powerup for strategic purposes.

Terrain looks good, that idea of waterfall on boundary region makes it a nice view, somehow the shallow water parts doesn't seem to look shallow you might want to slightly lower the grounds more on them to reveal more water than land.

Overall, a fitting melee map and approved.

 

[WerBackIII]

I really like your ideas.

 

[Remixer]

Remixer's Quality Control
Terrain
Terrain is pleasing to eyes though not flawless. The green waterfalls next to blackwater are really out of the place you should replace them with some other color. The height variation is nice, however shallow water areas are totally flat, use some height tool there also. At some places the map seems a bit empy (mostly the shallow water). The middle area is kinda nice, though I doubt if the walls and tiles work as intented if I were you I would definitely go and recolor the walls abit (I find values [180,200,125] pretty nice (make sure to press "V" in the editor to see the walls ingame. I also noticed that in my opinion, your wall using style isn't... the best one. (I'll post a picture to show you how I place them). Other than that I find the terrain really nice. Weather included which is nice. Though I could like to see some fog also (from Map Options), something greenish.


Neutrals
Now I must mention that the lay out is really cool. The creep camps are placed nicely to the edges however the creep races are rather odd though I read the map lore. I would change the story and use the "Felwood" units instead. (Draeneis and grass is not gud). There is nice amount of critters and a easy-access tavern. However I wonder if 4 goblin merchants is the best solution. (Maybe replace 2 of them with mercenary camps f.e.).

Summary
Overall the map is refreshing and it has nice idea of some kind of void and land next to each other (which reminds me of my own map with a different concept though. Some flaws here and there but they are fixable. Minimap preview looks cool, however the blue water disturbs me, as the water ingame is black.

Scores:
Terrain: 3/5
Comment: Terrain is really nice looking, a bit empty at water areas, unique idea. Use height tool at shallow water areas, and cover unblack shore areas (check images) and well do the fixes about the terrain I told you about and you'll get 4/5.

Neutrals: 3/5
Comment: Creeps are nice, though a bit out of place. Nice expansion areas. Maybe replace those 2 goblin merchants with mercenary camps.

Generally: 3/5
Comment: Generally really nice map which offers nice playing experience. Some flaws still stick to my eye (especially mine) mostly because of the terrain.

Rating: 9/15 (Silver)

About the pictures:
1. Place a wall normally.
2. The other wall won't fit there, no space.
3. Hold down Shift, while trying to place the wall, and voilá.

4. No grass peaking at the shores (I placed large but low (in height) elevators, coloured black and lowered them below the walkable ground (by pressing Ctrl+Page Down).
5. Can you see the grass peaking from the water next to the cliffs?

 

[Filmting]

I feel like editing and using custom doodads for a melee map is kinda cheatish, even though if such a simple edit. I don't mind it that much, but i choose not to do it in my melee maps to keep the "completely melee" style. Making some of those goblin merchants into merc camps would unsymmetrize the map, and can potentially give some advantage to players depending on spawn, so will not do it. The green waterfalls is kinda meh yeah, but can't choose another color while sticking to the completely melee style. Same for edges, might take a look at something that can be done. Don't personally mind the wall thingy, but might do it ima try see how it looks and if i can keep sizes etc. The creeps fit just fine, draenei on grass makes perfect sense, the salamander might be a bit weird, but was meant to be a warp stalker ish kinda terrorkar forest creature of sorts. Also creeps in middle only drop 1 item? It's just a random either perma, power up or charged, since making it only 1 of those could make some imbalances with them so close to each other.

 

[Remixer]

Pardon me about the item drop, I checked it wrong.

About keeping it "melee map". Yes, you can have the idea that you want to keep it unchanged (I did it too as I began making maps). However even changing the version to the "Latest Melee Patch" makes it break melee rules according to the mark in front of the map name (In Map Selection).

Edit: About the waterfalls, if you do not want to change them, I would myself remove them and lower the land so much that the ground "sinks" to the dark area.

 

[Ken-E]

Full Review Emerges

While the outland creeps may feel out-of-place, the lore in the map description somewhat made it ok.

Overall the map is pretty neat and symmetrical, the absence of red creep camps keeps a mild pace game matches. The layout is really cool, small yet very maneuverable allowing you to reinforce your base when attack with ease.

Just one thing, the center feels a need of improvement. It's a bit lackluster compare it to the rest of the map.

4/5 from me

 

[eubz]

The Hive Workshop Official

Map Reviewer: eubz Map Name: Terrorkar Forest Map Author: Filmting Map Uploader: Filmting Design I like the design of this map but in some places, tiles are a bit off but how you do the balances is cool, though. And, I should also add here how you present your map in your description. You did it well with those video and screenshots. Score: 75/100 Terrain Nicely done with the placement of the trees. You have enough environmental doodads. You used the Custom light environment and such though IMO it is nice if water tinting color is somewhat light green or something like that. I just don't think those icy kind of brick tiles fit here, dude. Score: 75/100 Gameplay Item drops are just right as I could see and is based on creep levels/camp levels. Trees and goldmines are just enough for this 4-player map. The map is well-balanced. Score: 75/100 I would love to suggest you change the green creep camps at the center to orange or red and have some higher level item drops there. Just a suggestion, you know. No more suggestions here. Final Score: 75.000/100 4/5 Vote for Approval Contact: (Visitor Message) / (Private Message) / (Map Reviewers)

 

[JCarrill0]

Terrain looks well done,
Creeps could be a bit stronger for my taste (Edit: Exaclty what eubz said)
it does make me feel like this is in outland.
4/5

 

[Orcnet]

Map approved.

 

[Eagle XI]

About the pictures:
1. Place a wall normally.
2. The other wall won't fit there, no space.
3. Hold down Shift, while trying to place the wall, and voilá.

FINALLY! i learned this.