Starcraft: Ghost - Leaked 2013/14 Images

[A Void]

I came across a fascinating leaked images of the latest development of a paused game that never was released - Starcraft: Ghost. Please share your opinions and discuss anything related about the leaked content.

The leaked images were re-sized for viewing purposes; 800 x 600.
The original images were in 1600 x 900 (1080p HD) resolution.

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The leaked Blizzard Product Slate features an unknown Starcraft- Universe based game that has been named; "Starcraft Phoenix".

Blizzard Product Slate

This can't be Starcraft 2 Expansion nor anything related to Starcraft 2 RTS. The speculations has been flowing around that it is a new code-name for the long anticipated FPS Starcraft; Ghost. This time it could be based around Starcraft- Universe solely- including the origins of Nova.
More information ...

Newest Information

In June 2007, Rob Pardo, one of the lead developers at Blizzard Entertainment, indicated that there still was interest in finishing Ghost. Later in an interview, Pardo stated that Blizzard had been "stubborn" in persevering with Ghost, but they "were not able to execute [the game] at the level we wanted to". Blizzard's president Mike Morhaime and Pardo gave a presentation on the company's history at the D.I.C.E. Summit in February 2008. During the presentation, they listed games canceled by Blizzard, which did not include Ghost. When questioned about this, Blizzard's co-founder Frank Pearce explained that the title was never "technically canceled" and that it was not in the company's focus at the time due to a finite amount of development resources. Morhaime later elaborated that it was the sudden success of World of Warcraft and the concurrent development of StarCraft II that consumed Blizzard's resources, leading to Ghost being put on hold. Despite Blizzard's announcements, many of the video games industry's journalists now list Ghost as canceled and consider it vaporware; the game was ranked fifth in the 2005 edition of Wired News' annual Vaporware Awards.

- Wikipedia

 

[Pharaoh_]

This sounds really cool, thanks for sharing.

 

[Heinvers]

Well this could turn out quite interesting. Good luck!

 

[A Void]

I increased the brightness of the image for viewing purposes:

2009 News #1

Blizzard Entertainment has filed an appeal in China (2009), after attempting to register the name “Starcraft: Ghost” as an e-sports brand. The Chinese State Administration of Industry & Commerce (SAIC) had initially rejected the name because the terms blend spirituality and astrology. This violates “socialist morality” and is illegal because it might “disseminate feudal superstition or engaging in superstitious, illegal activities.”
News of SCG is old hat, and Blizzard execs have long dismissed the game as no longer in development. However, it seems that Blizz is now making moves to have the game registered as an e-sport, and this is a hint that they are exploring resurrecting the title.

 

[Solu9]

Source of the pictures?

 

[A Void]

Source of the pictures?

Reddit.

 

[Solu9]

Reddit.

Yeah. That's not good enough.
Post a link to the source please.

 

[A Void]

Yeah. That's not good enough.
Post a link to the source please.

Do you seriously think that I will find it again? Just search it yourself..
Google is your friend.

 

[Solu9]

Yes I am serious. Otherwise I would not ask you to post a link. I'm surprised you didn't include said link to begin with.

I already did a google search and didn't find the pictures.
It would be much easier if you just post the link since the topic is interesting.

 

[edo494]

https://www.google.sk/search?q=star...bQ7AaztoCAAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=939 how hard was that

 

[Solu9]

https://www.google.sk/search?q=star...bQ7AaztoCAAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=939 how hard was that

Wow! How did you do that?... ... ... ...
Those pictures are from the first version of SC: Ghost announced in... 2003? Anyway, way back. And they are not the "leaked" pictures shown in this thread.
Good job.

 

[A Void]

https://www.google.sk/search?q=star...bQ7AaztoCAAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=939 how hard was that

What?, these are not the leaked images....

Wow! How did you do that?... ... ... ...
Those pictures are from the first version of SC: Ghost announced in... 2003? Anyway, way back. And they are not the "leaked" pictures shown in this thread.
Good job.

Sarcastic?

 

[edo494]

since I didnt know there was any Starcraft Ghost until I saw this thread, I couldnt judge if it was new or not, it was similar, so I threw it out here

 

[Solu9]

since I didnt know there was any Starcraft Ghost until I saw this thread, I couldnt judge if it was new or not, it was similar, so I threw it out here

And that's cool man.
But I didn't care for the condescending posting following the link.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Look at the first image closely.
Bad shadowing and lighting shader, this is an old image. Sure it is in 1080p but then again so were games back in 2006 when the 360 came out. Basically a capture from a PC version of the game running on a development rig.

The leaked development schedule has lost all credibility seeing how we are in 2014 and it shows a lot of things like LotV being out when it is not.

SC Phoenix I think was the code name given to Blizzard's AoS scheduled to go live some time in the future.

So what happened to SC2 Ghost? Well I guess anything they did have is pretty much scrap now. Some of the models were probably re-touched and re-mastered for SC2 (I am guessing Nova and maybe some of the Terran unit models in SC2 were based on Ghost. However the rest of it I do not think is salvageable. Things like final voice acting and localization were not applied (otherwise other sources would have leaked what happened). All the art and engine that was not ported to SC2 is as good as scrap as it is too old to use without major work.

Heck the story line itself would probably make little sense as it may conflict with SC2.

I guess Nova will just be confined as an Easter egg to SC2. At least after HotS she is no longer a semi villain as she should now be working for Valarian who as far as I know is not his evil father. We can expect a cameo in LotV, or maybe she will even aid Zeratul in a mission or two.

All we do know is Nova is one of the most powerful psionic humans to ever live, surpassing even Kerrigan in her capabilities (why the HotS opening sequence showing Nova represented a major concern, since not even Kerrigan could have won against her). Sure Primal Kerrigan would probably mop the floor with her now, or would she seeing how Raynor still saved her?

 

[A Void]

Look at the first image closely.
Bad shadowing and lighting shader, this is an old image. Sure it is in 1080p but then again so were games back in 2006 when the 360 came out. Basically a capture from a PC version of the game running on a development rig.

The leaked development schedule has lost all credibility seeing how we are in 2014 and it shows a lot of things like LotV being out when it is not.

SC Phoenix I think was the code name given to Blizzard's AoS scheduled to go live some time in the future.

So what happened to SC2 Ghost? Well I guess anything they did have is pretty much scrap now. Some of the models were probably re-touched and re-mastered for SC2 (I am guessing Nova and maybe some of the Terran unit models in SC2 were based on Ghost. However the rest of it I do not think is salvageable. Things like final voice acting and localization were not applied (otherwise other sources would have leaked what happened). All the art and engine that was not ported to SC2 is as good as scrap as it is too old to use without major work.

Heck the story line itself would probably make little sense as it may conflict with SC2.

I guess Nova will just be confined as an Easter egg to SC2. At least after HotS she is no longer a semi villain as she should now be working for Valarian who as far as I know is not his evil father. We can expect a cameo in LotV, or maybe she will even aid Zeratul in a mission or two.

All we do know is Nova is one of the most powerful psionic humans to ever live, surpassing even Kerrigan in her capabilities (why the HotS opening sequence showing Nova represented a major concern, since not even Kerrigan could have won against her). Sure Primal Kerrigan would probably mop the floor with her now, or would she seeing how Raynor still saved her?

You are wrong at some points. SC Ghost was never released nor cancelled. It was put on a hold. The reason was said that they had teams working on other games and giving full attention to them rather than SC Ghost. They were working on WoW and Starcraft 2 at that time. Sc Ghost had two development teams, one development team bankrupted- the other also fell. The game was a big mess between data, they had to leave it.. On 2009 Blizzard registered a new brand name for e-sports gaming. The brand was called: Starcraft: Ghost. Mike Morhaime (Blizzard Founder) also stated that SC Ghost is not cancelled, Rob Pardo stated that they are still interested in continuing SC Ghost in the future. Those leaked images have higher-res textures, much-more decent poly number, different nova hair- basically it is a completely different from 2005/ 2007 version. The shading could not even be completed seeing as this could be still in development. I don't know if this is fake or real, but I can assure you that it looks real to me..

 

[Dr Super Good]

1600 x 900 (1080p HD)

1080p is 1920 x 1080 pixels at 30, 50 or 60 Hz.
1600 x 900 is computer display resolution.

The shading could not even be completed seeing as this could be still in development.

Until the shading spec is complete they cannot really create assets. Implementing the actual shader, if but to allow testing of assets, would not take that many resources in compared to making all the required assets.

Those leaked images have higher-res textures, much-more decent poly number, different nova hair- basically it is a completely different from 2005/ 2007 version.

They are also shots of the PC version of the game, so it is possibly they are old as PCs could easily produce such graphics in 2005/2007.

So has StarCraft Ghost really been abandoned? Well seeing how Blizzard is picking up on consoles again (one of their reasons for abandoning it since it was aimed at Xbox generation consoles) then it is quite likely that a console game (well one targeting them as well as PC) will be produced.

 

[A Void]

1080p is 1920 x 1080 pixels at 30, 50 or 60 Hz.
1600 x 900 is computer display resolution.


Until the shading spec is complete they cannot really create assets. Implementing the actual shader, if but to allow testing of assets, would not take that many resources in compared to making all the required assets.


They are also shots of the PC version of the game, so it is possibly they are old as PCs could easily produce such graphics in 2005/2007.

So has StarCraft Ghost really been abandoned? Well seeing how Blizzard is picking up on consoles again (one of their reasons for abandoning it since it was aimed at Xbox generation consoles) then it is quite likely that a console game (well one targeting them as well as PC) will be produced.

And how do you know that this is an old PC version? Any proof? Anything? Or are you just making conclusions? I'd say that there was no PC version back then.. Since it clearly stated in the 2005 F.A.Q that it will not be produced nor supported for PC, MAC platforms. This could either be from 2009/ 2014.

 

[Solu9]

And how do you know that this is an old PC version? Any proof? Anything? Or are you just making conclusions? I'd say that there was no PC version back then.. Since it clearly stated in the 2005 F.A.Q that it will not be produced nor supported for PC, MAC platforms. This could either be from 2009/ 2014.

I would not be talking about proofs as long as you can't deliver any yourself.

 

[JCarrill0]

This is the convo I had with Genen32 yesterday on skype:

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I know they have plans to do the project still and release it for ps4/xbox one but still it's always rumors and hearsay
if its about nova then that's cool, but I'll believe more when blizzard does more about it
until Blizzard releases official info, It's all a bunch of blizzard employees playing around with the idea, like to do everything else
blizzard is a game company, they have hundreds of employes, and they love to make games
you cant expect them to NOT come up with unreleased ideas to launch
they do it all the time... but leaked info doesn't mean they have a new top secrets undisclosed game ready to release
Normally. its just a few game developers trying and testing new tech with new ideas
If blizzard likes it, they launch it.. but unless it can make some series headway.. it never goes anywhere
Blizzard is all about best of the best, clearly they have proven that
so a few photos of "leaked" info.. isn't anything but leaked photos
Much like finding a nude photo of your GF, that doesn't mean she cheating on you.. it means someone took a pic of her naked..
don't read into so much of it... if its true .. great, but don't get your hopes so high in case it isn't...
that's all I'm saying
I have been a blizzard fan for probably more years then you have, I know my game company...

That being said, it is just my own opinion. Rather people agree/disagree, I am just posting my opinion.

 

[Hallfiry]

I'd say that there was no PC version back then.. Since it clearly stated in the 2005 F.A.Q that it will not be produced nor supported for PC, MAC platforms. This could either be from 2009/ 2014.

I'm not an expert, but:
You have to develop the game on a platform and I'm pretty sure that it was a PC running Windows (XP by that time). I'm not exactly sure about the technical details, but I feel confident that you can run a game or at least its graphic demos on a Windows computer, if you developed it for XBox in the first place.

 

[JCarrill0]

Wasn't sc2Pheonix the code name for Blizzard Dota/Blizzard AllStars?
AKA HOTS (Heroes of the Storm, not Heart of the Swarm)

 

[Dr Super Good]

And how do you know that this is an old PC version? Any proof? Anything? Or are you just making conclusions?

The resolution of the "source" screenshots is a PC resolution. Sure consoles like the Xbox 360/One do support such strange resolutions but they are hardly common and usually any development footage is leaked at a common resolution.

Based on likelihood, they are probably screen dumps from a PC version. This would explain the unusual resolution and their quality.

if you developed it for XBox in the first place.

Traditional console development required special development kits. These were often massive cards slot into a PC motherboard which included all the hardware of the game console to allow access to debug command and easy testing.

 

[A Void]

So this is a PC version in the screen-shots. But... does it have a date? When it was taken? If it is indeed a PC version of Starcraft: Ghost than that means they could be still continuing it on a small scale as of right now.

 

[Solu9]

So this is a PC version in the screen-shots. But... does it have a date? When it was taken? If it is indeed a PC version of Starcraft: Ghost than that means they could be still continuing it on a small scale as of right now.

Still it is all based on assumptions, no real facts or sources.
You can speculate that Blizzard is working on SC: Ghost but there are no evidences that points to that they are.

 

[JCarrill0]

OMG WORLD OF STARCRAFT!!

PROOF

Below is authentic leaked pictures FROM Blizzards HQ:

[Rainbow]LOOK AT THE DATE< ITS FROM TODAY!!! OMG[/rainbow]

The fact I can do this, myself... does not mean this is real!

 

[A Void]

OMG WORLD OF STARCRAFT!!

PROOF

Below is authentic leaked pictures FROM Blizzards HQ:

[Rainbow]LOOK AT THE DATE< ITS FROM TODAY!!! OMG[/rainbow]

The fact I can do this, myself... does not mean this is real!

Firstly, your point is invalid, since Starcraft Universe does not exist. Secondly StarCraft Ghost is a real game- and we are discussing the obvious images that were leaked. If you don't believe nor have anything interesting to say please leave off this thread..

 

[Solu9]

Firstly, your point is invalid, since Starcraft Universe does not exist. Secondly StarCraft Ghost is a real game- and we are discussing the obvious images that were leaked. If you don't believe nor have anything interesting to say please leave off this thread..

There are no leaked pictures. Or at least you have fail so far to provide any evidence that these pictures are indeed from a 2013/2014 version of SC: Ghost.

So his point is just as valid as yours.
At the moment both World of Starcraft and SC: Ghost (2014 version) are mere speculations.

 

[edo494]

but warcraft 4 is real, trust me

 

[A Void]

Back from off-topic, I think that Blizzard would have a big change of creating SC Ghost now, because as they have entered consoles with D3 .. They would get more profit from it.

 

[JCarrill0]

There are no leaked pictures. Or at least you have fail so far to provide any evidence that these pictures are indeed from a 2013/2014 version of SC: Ghost.

So his point is just as valid as yours.
At the moment both World of Starcraft and SC: Ghost (2014 version) are mere speculations.

I actually made mine up by just ripping an image via google, and editing it by putting today's date. My point was to prove anything can be made up and called "leaked" info.

My point wasn't to discourage or ruin this thread. it was merely saying, If an when this info becomes Genuine, meaning Blizzard makes a Press release about it, don't hold your breathe and get all excited, because in the end, you'd get your hopes up for nothing.

I love the fact that this COULD be real and that blizzard COULD be working on SC: Ghost again, but again, I'm not holding my breathe till i see a statement.

 

[A Void]

I actually made mine up by just ripping an image via google, and editing it by putting today's date. My point was to prove anything can be made up and called "leaked" info.

My point wasn't to discourage or ruin this thread. it was merely saying, If an when this info becomes Genuine, meaning Blizzard makes a Press release about it, don't hold your breathe and get all excited, because in the end, you'd get your hopes up for nothing.

I love the fact that this COULD be real and that blizzard COULD be working on SC: Ghost again, but again, I'm not holding my breathe till i see a statement.

But they are working on SC: Ghost anytime they want, it was announced. And it was put on a hold, that means it has some progress but a very tiny one compared to what it could be.

 

[edo494]

doesnt "put on hold" means that it is not abbadoned but it has nothing/no team members assigned to it? That means no progress

 

[JCarrill0]

doesnt "put on hold" means that it is not abbadoned but it has nothing/no team members assigned to it? That means no progress

correct, but just because your not assigned to it, doesn't mean they cant mess around with it in their free time. I know plenty of game idea are launched because employees worked on them in spare free time. The end result is it get put back into progress, but that is not always the case.
Still, now would be a good time to do it. new consoles are out, new games are launching Blizzard could start making a serious profit here, They already have a d3 for ps4. This shows they are working on console based game play.

 

[A Void]

doesnt "put on hold" means that it is not abbadoned but it has nothing/no team members assigned to it? That means no progress

Put on hold means that is gets almost zero progress/ attention. It also means that release date is postponed to an unknown value.

 

[A Void]

Okay, a great discovery I made; the nova in the screen-shots was also used in SC2 campaign cinematic's of WoL. That means:
1. It is clearly a fan re-creation of SC Ghost.*
2. It is in the SC2 Engine.*
3. Images were not official and were clearly faked.*

* = uncertain, information may be invalid.

Nova in SC2

As you can see that the Nova in the images and SC2 is identical.
That means that those images were a hoax.

Blood Raven

Maybe it was just a placeholder from SC2, since SC2 used better model for nova. That could mean that it is valid images and they indeed from SC Ghost.

 

[Solu9]

Ehm "great discovery"?
That's what we have been trying to tell the whole thread. Seriously genin32...

 

[A Void]

Ehm "great discovery"?
That's what we have been trying to tell the whole thread. Seriously genin32...

No, you were not trying to tell me anything. You just dawdled about asking for a link- also, you still have no proof that this was or wasn't a placeholder.. Anyway, if you have nothing interesting to say then don't say anything at all.

The purpose of this thread was to discuss the latest and newest images, news and any other information for SC Ghost. I also never said that these were real nor faked.

 

[Solu9]

No, you were not trying to tell me anything. You just dawdled about asking for a link- also, you still have no proof that this was or wasn't a placeholder..

Lol, I'm not the one who has to deliver any proofs. I question the truth and origin behind the so called "leaked" pictures. Which you failed to show. You could not even give us the link to where you found the images.

Anyway, if you have nothing interesting to say then don't say anything at all.

So far you have yourself not had any interesting to show, only some fake images and some speculations.

The purpose of this thread was to discuss the latest and newest images, news and any other information for SC Ghost. I also never said that these were real nor faked.

You proposed these images as leaked images of SC: Ghost, I would say that's a pretty clear statement that these pictures are real.

 

[A Void]

Lol, I'm not the one who has to deliver any proofs. I question the truth and origin behind the so called "leaked" pictures. Which you failed to show. You could not even give us the link to where you found the images.


So far you have yourself not had any interesting to show, only some fake images and some speculations.


You proposed these images as leaked images of SC: Ghost, I would say that's a pretty clear statement that these pictures are real.

I will not argue off-topic, I am ignoring you.

 

[Solu9]

I will not argue off-topic, I am ignoring you.

There is no topic genin32.
I am stunned by your arrogance.

 

[Dr Super Good]

2. It is in the SC2 Engine.*

Which may or may not explain the lack of shadows since SC2 supports them perfectly. Cleaver faker or just them being too stupid to use SC2E properly?

 

[A Void]

Which may or may not explain the lack of shadows since SC2 supports them perfectly. Cleaver faker or just them being too stupid to use SC2E properly?

Who knows, I don't 100% know if this is even in SC2. It maybe from SC Ghost, but why is the model of Nova from SC2? That remains a mystery..

* It may very well be as Blood said- a placeholder in SC Ghost.

 

[Dr Super Good]

The model of Nova in SC2 stands out as it is pretty high quality for a RTS game. She has a very well defined face where as Thycus suffers from polygons.

 

[A Void]

The model of Nova in SC2 stands out as it is pretty high quality for a RTS game. She has a very well defined face where as Thycus suffers from polygons.

Or.. they used SC Ghost newest model of Nova in Starcraft II Campaign. That means that the model of Nova is actually from Sc Ghost rather than SC2, since SC Ghost had many high quality models that were introduced and changed to fit with SC2. That could explain much..

 

[pyf]

Spoiler: Necrobump!

Do you seriously think that I will find it again? Just search it yourself..
Google is your friend.

[...] I already did a google search and didn't find the pictures. [...]

Karma Decay might help, since the original pictures come from Reddit.

The leaked images were re-sized for viewing purposes; 800 x 600.
The original images were in 1600 x 900 (1080p HD) resolution.

So this is a PC version in the screen-shots. But... does it have a date? When it was taken? [...]

Original, unmodified files are easier to track down. Plus, they might also contain useful metadata.

Hope you still have them.

Okay, a great discovery I made; the nova in the screen-shots was also used in SC2 campaign cinematic's of WoL. That means:
1. It is clearly a fan re-creation of SC Ghost.*
2. It is in the SC2 Engine.*
3. Images were not official and were clearly faked.*

* = uncertain, information may be invalid. [emphasis added]

Or.. they used SC Ghost newest model of Nova in Starcraft II Campaign. That means that the model of Nova is actually from Sc Ghost rather than SC2, since SC Ghost had many high quality models that were introduced and changed to fit with SC2. That could explain much..

"I want to believe"