Soviet/Russian Federation soldier +tank

[Massive_attack]

Hi, though many of you don't know it, ive recently undertaken a small project to make a map about the Russian invasion of Chechnya, (first war, post soviet union collapse).

The map is taking its first feeble steps, beta testing will begin soon, after the chechnyan rebels/military is finalized.

Pics can be found attached, i appologise for the watermark, try to ignore it.
some of these pictures are old and need updating.
The crashed plane there is from a map, since no author has yet claimed it as his work, it goes anonymous, however i belive it (or at least its texture) has been made by illidan(X)evil, as have the "hind" attack helicopters in picture 5, credit will be given to him for both of those models untill someone comes in and claims them (with proof). If Illidan sees this and wants these models out, so be it.


Let me say this here and now: the map was made out of the want for epic battles in a city with russians, i am in no way attemting to make a political statement, i do not mean to offend any chechnyans or russians.

Also: the skins i use are (hopefully) place-holders. The buildings seen are from a War of the Worlds project which can be seen here : http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=84366&highlight=war+of+the+worlds
They were made by Gruftbestie.

The vehicles and cars were made by Kofi_banan.

Note: the map is still in a WIP status, it is not a campaing and as skillfull users will see, is indeed another LOAP map.

But still, LOAP has become more of a template map for much greater things, i intend to fix jobs, prevent unbalance as much as possible (after the beta versions) between the major sides.

The terrain is nearing a final state of completion, while i like to hear comments please send them VIA PM so this thread is not cluttered

There, now none of that map BS will happen, we can get on to the request

Probably something hard to make but to hell with it, i need a russian soldier:

VIDEOS Of russian soldiers in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqIeDnmp_0&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAuM3RSv-6g&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lCII7MxFbI&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gjo5dvZQgc&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIjV4VS5ZNw&mode=related&search=
(I appologize for the music, hell its the best i could find, better ones may be added)

Details: i want him weaponless, with animations that simulate him firing a machine gun rifle or assault rifle

The fuzzy hat some of them wear as well as the toque is not needed but can be added if one wanted to. (id perfer to have him with a helmet)

the animations can be simple, stand walk attack death dissipate, that sort of thing, no special duck or any animations like that, keep it simple.

note: im currently using a combination of US infantry and weaponless models for my soviets, even one single model Russian infantry model would be awesome.


Final note: i doubt the mods will let me submit my map here, since its a loap and after reading the rules ill need to ask every single original creator of loap and the creator of the specific loap map for permission, thats not going to happen. While I and StankyNuggy's are friends, he has not explicitly given me permission to do this. Quote: (stankynuggys) "Hey unit i like your maps" Me: "so you dont mind me editing loap maps ?" Him: "Just give credit".

While that makes me feel better about what i do it doesnt help with the rules or the mods, and i have no proof beyond memmory, plus i could have just lied there.

when its done ill post a link to epicwar with the map.

Thanks for the time, please help me make these !

Update: pictures of the map added. Yess my terraining skill fails. more info for them can be found above.

 

[zt2211]

This is one well prepared and nicely presented request! I would make you these models if I could, trust me!
Also, did Russia really invade a country after the Soviet Union collapsed? I thought that the next real war in Europe was the Bosnia/Serbian war...

 

[Massive_attack]

Yup, but chechnya is a small country thats preety much inside russia, the last statistics i saw on wikipedia said its population (estimate) was around 1 million or so.

The country rebelled from the union a few times or tried to at least, most of the time ending in the "relocation" of chechnyan citizens.

The country itself is torn by war (think afganistan, but only a quarter of the country, with all the US soldiers and all the taliban in close proximity, and you have this situation.

In fact, just 10 years ago (once again, aprox) a group of chechnyan terrorists took over a russian children school and slaughtered many people !

Russia now holds martial law over some areas of it, others seem to degenerate between infighting with other terror groups and the russians.

Russias military has engaged with them in 2 wars, the first, ending in defeat, the second, spawning this chaos we see today.

Honestly, the russians are brutal and merciless, but they are handling that situation as best they can, its definately not as bad as theyre invasion of afganistan during the end of the cold war.

anyway, my maps about that, currently the beta is ready, id upload it here but credits have not yet been compiled for models, and there are still other general things that need doing (EX: russian side currently only 75% ready, some jobs need balancing, terrorist cell job needs a boost ect)

Suprisingly Chechnya has a largely muslim population !

Edit: i THINK Chechnya still has a government, it certainly can still support a semi-structured way of life, but most people are in poverty and live in fear.

Note: the map is set in the FIRST war, when chechnya still retained some military power.

Once again the maps far from complete and/or balanced. im just trying to make it all work together.

More info can be found at wikipedia, im too half-assed to link it.

Last edit on this: The bosnians and serbians got in a war ? awesome wikipedia link please !

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Dont want to disturb your speech but: Get back to the topic will ya.
This was a request not a history artikal.

 

[Massive_attack]

Allright, Update: more infantry pictures. some removed.

Edit: someone PLEASE tell me how to post in-game shots here, it keeps stopping me from uploading.
2nd edit: that issue was resolved see first post to admire my shitty terraining skills.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Are they in .tga format? If so, convert it to .jpg and try to post again.

 

[Massive_attack]

I think i got it, thanks
Edit: here we go, i think this will work now
2nd edit: yup there here, the pics are a tad bit old, but hey it has the general look of the map.

Oh and by the way: the entire map (besides maybe the mall) has new terrain. Some models shown here are made by Kofi_Banan, specificaly the police car and ambulance as well as a half-track or two.

 

[Mechanical Man]

And what is the difference between Russian and country's soldier?

 

[Massive_attack]

In the map ? Chechnyan soldiers will be few and scattered, the local militas and police forces are the main soldiers, chechnyas actual army will mainly be there for support, since they are needed elsewhere, they will be tough opponents though, relying on strength rather than numbers.

In the real world : Very little i imagine, as russias and chechnyas military's were joined at some point, and they were once part of russia, its more than possible that they would retain a few soldiers similar to russias.

Model wise ? meh, as i said i have many models being used for placeholders, i may hold on to one and make it the soldier model, oh well. ATM, its just a marine.

Just to confirm: im still only asking for a russian soldier and a BMP tank, i ask for no more, no less.

 

[Soviet.Kazak]

Where'd you get the airplane police car, and ambulance models?

 

[Massive_attack]

Oh and by the way: the entire map (besides maybe the mall) has new terrain. Some models shown here are made by Kofi_Banan, specificaly the police car and ambulance as well as a half-track or two.

Pics can be found attached, i appologise for the watermark, try to ignore it.
some of these pictures are old and need updating.
The crashed plane there is from a map, since no author has yet claimed it as his work, it goes anonymous, however i belive it (or at least its texture) has been made by illidan(X)evil, as have the "hind" attack helicopters in picture 5, credit will be given to him for both of those models untill someone comes in and claims them (with proof). If Illidan sees this and wants these models out, so be it.

Please read the first post carefully.
Update: I even added some YOUTUBE videos featuring the russian army, hopefully to get the general ideas flowing.

Update 2: +2 new 'tube videos.

Comments please !

 

[Massive_attack]

I think im allowed to bump... at least i hope i am. Right ?

 

[Soviet.Kazak]

You can only do a bump if nobody replies in your thread for two days. If no one makes this for you, just use this model:
http://wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=92096

 

[Massive_attack]

Oh right because thats the one im already using and the fact that it is NOT weaponless and the model size apealls to me.

Besides, its a United States marine, i want a soldier of the russian federation, note the differences in helmet, camo, standard body armour, guns, ect.

Didnt mean to be totaly rude, but this model is one of the main reasons i made the request in the first place. (No offence to WMA, the model just doesnt suit me).

A better model would be Cavman's UTN soldier, but im already using that as a conscript.
Edit: soory for the premature bump

 

[Mechanical Man]

There are some guys taking weaponsless models requests, you can ask them to remove the weapon for you.

 

[Massive_attack]

Its still not what i want Mechanical man. What i wanted is in the first post, why not have a shot at READING IT.

 

[Massive_attack]

Sweet i think this counts as a legit bump.
Request news: more infantry pics soon !

 

[SuPa-]

There are already a few tank models on the site, take a look at them?

 

[TheDivineBoss]

This tank is quite nice for your russian army (or chinese =P)
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/resources_new/models/2815/

 

[Mechanical Man]

This one is better http://www.hiveworkshop.com/resources_new/models/1934/

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Why not both heh? One light/medium and one heavy.

 

[Massive_attack]

MM, Its a T-34, a Russian World War 2 tank. I Appreciate you guys trying, really, i do. But honestly, ive looked over all the databases here at Wc3campaings Samods and XGM.

Nothing quite fits what i need.

Edit: oh and The Divine Boss: the link you gave doesnt work ?
Says: selected item does not exist ?

2nd edit: more infantry pictures added, about 5-6 tank videos too.

If kofi released his T80 id be willing to live without the BMP, i just need a tank and the BMP is much more flexible model-wise than a T80, but honestly the T80 would be just fine.

The infantry half of the request wont change unless i find a new model somewhere or soneone makes one however.

(There is a good chance JEDI KNIGHT over at XGM may make one from the game Stalker: Shadow of Chernoble, if that happened i'd shut down the infantry half too)

As for supa: there are loads of tanks here, and at filefront, but none seem to fit my purposes exactly, at the momment im using werewulf's chibi tank she submitted ages ago to filefront, but ill take something, anything better if i can get it.

Oh and map-wise: im making good progress on the balance, while russia is still unbalanced its coming along nicely, i may need to update the screen shots i have here soon !

 

[TheDivineBoss]

That always sucks, can't find what you need

 

[Massive_attack]

Dont feel bad, ive been around longer than you think, i have ALOT of models, chances are your models one of them.

Still, Kofi_Banans T80 would be invaluable to my request, it would effectively cut out the tank part.

 

[vnakira]

I like the military, i am a former member of http://ezboard.com
unfounately, it was hacked and no longer exist now....My favorite general is "ROMMEL"
--Im making a new map based on the campaigns "defend Stalingrat" in Blitzkrieg Rolling Thunder..
Do you have any models for the Red Army in WWII???

 

[Massive_attack]

shitty place to ask as its SUPER off topic but here.
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/resources_new/models/1934/
This is a T34, a standard russian tank of World War 2. They were mass-produced and widely used.

NOW GET ON TOPIC.
[Offtopic] i like rommel alot too, best WW2 german general IMO.[/offtopic]
Please sir, make a new thread about this.

 

[Kofi_Banan]

t80 coming massive_attack look for it in non-approved section soon



do you see use for this ;p?
do you need more cars?

 

[Massive_attack]

Sweet ! As for russian vehicles, i would like to know what kind of car your offering. I could certainly use more military themed equipment and vehicles. If you wish i may make a new PM to you.

And thanks for the T80, i know i rather buggered you with it but i thought it was never going to be released ! i was going insane with woory !

Thanks Kofi.

Update: i decided to leave the tank up there, i have updated the reason i still sort of need it, its mainly there if anyone feels like doing it.

Oh and kofi: if you want i can walk you through my map on Bnet, just PM me if you want.

Edit: on the topic of the jet, HELL YES. But i think you should actualy submit it, could be usefull to many.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Maybe some usefull things: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/resources_new/models/3398/

And maybe more.

 

[Massive_attack]

Im already using that half track and the 88mm version.

I told you i went through this sites files throughly but, hey, its nice to see someone trying.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Would be cool if someone made the Overlord tank from C&C Generals ^^

 

[Massive_attack]

Not in this thread. Make your own please.
Besides, the Overlord is chineese, not russian at all.

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

Hmmz.

Hmmz.

Hmmz.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Well then dont think it's Chinese cuz it's a pwning owning tank just put a big Russian mark on it and tada it's Russian!

 

[Kofi_Banan]

Rdz are gunna finish thata or you just spreading temptation and and stealing massives topic?

Hmz?
Hmz?
Hmz?

EDIT:
fourt hmz to be better hmzer

Hmz?

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

You know it's always the former.

I got bored of it in ten minutes, but it may yet resurface under RDZ Industries...

Oh, wait, yes, I hate animating tanks -- it won't resurface.

 

[Kofi_Banan]

You is evil dude , would give you -rep but i gave you rep+ 15 min before.
Stop your anger and spread love! xd

 

[Massive_attack]

PLEASE dont hijack this. make your own DAMN threads !

 

[Massive_attack]

know what.... im gona bump this shipwreck of a thread just because.

 

[Chaos Overlord]

I am here to support Massive attacks conquest for models, which translates into the fact that there is no way the Overlord is chinese. It has to at least be American exported because that thing is way to cool. And check the voice, souds nothing like a chinese person. Rao, your Y2... tank I cant remember its name looked like an overlord kinda. That was a cool one.

Massive for being so patient, and not killing the hijackers, you get my measly plus rep!

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Do you also accept concept art of C&C RA2 Sovjet units?
But I tell ya this most of these CA's never been put in the game. But hey,
they're Russian!

 

[Massive_attack]

What the hell does that have to do with my request for a BMP-2 and russian soldier ?

Just curious.

Edit: oh and the forth and fifth are, in fact, in-game.

 

[Kofi_Banan]

is this post enough topicated xd?

 

[Massive_attack]

Yeah, thats about as on topic as you can get. Russian tank part of the request removed.

Just to confirm half of the request was completed by Kofi_banan, i have given him rep, but because i dont have enough rep myself it wont really count. oh well, if anything its the thought that counts.

Thanks kofi !

Also: the infantry part of this is still open for those who may take it !

 

[zt2211]

What the hell does that have to do with my request for a BMP-2 and russian soldier ?

Just curious.

Edit: oh and the forth and fifth are, in fact, in-game.

LOL Thread hijack attempts are amusing!

Anyways, Massive's request is quite detailed and, therefore, quite respectable. I'm glad you're getting replies, man!

 

[Massive_attack]

So am i.

Im a bit dissapointed at all these attempted hijackers, i may need to lay down some indiscriminate justice soon.

On topic: you know im not asking for super high quality right ? it CAN use in-game textures if one wanted to.

 

[Massive_attack]

Bumping old topics i made just for lulz should be a forum pass-time.

BUMP

 

[Kofi_Banan]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/resources_new/models/2697/

this maybe ;d

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Hey I found a other cool russian vehicle for ya.
And poor Americans (not haha I love it when people get killed while Audioslave - Shadow on the Sun is playing): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvsbfCCap3w

 

[Massive_attack]

A shika medium anti air vehicle would be cool but i do not need it really.

WHAT I DO NEED IS A CUSTOM RUSSIAN SOLDIER MODEL.

On Kofi's link: TheDivineBoss or MechanicalMan tried this on me before. soory, it wont work for me(as in i dont want it, i can get it working in-game fine). Im not using that model.